If God doesn't Exist Explain To Me How This Happened By Chance

If people with different eye colors continue to reproduce, why would those colors disappear? Unless there was suddenly some environmental pressure, I don't see why blue eyes would disappear. 

Humans are a bit of an anomaly in that we aren't subject to natural selection the same way we used to be. We have vaccines and treatments for various ailments that would have otherwise killed us.  So, it's difficult to say what should and should not happen to humans. If someone is born with an undesirable characteristic, often we can mask that. 

Would HIV resistance fall into your idea of a small evolutionary change? 

Darwin had evidence to support his claims. He didn't just "make it up".
DaRWIN did kinda just make it up... its a THEORY not a FACT
 
If people with different eye colors continue to reproduce, why would those colors disappear? Unless there was suddenly some environmental pressure, I don't see why blue eyes would disappear. 

Humans are a bit of an anomaly in that we aren't subject to natural selection the same way we used to be. We have vaccines and treatments for various ailments that would have otherwise killed us.  So, it's difficult to say what should and should not happen to humans. If someone is born with an undesirable characteristic, often we can mask that. 

Would HIV resistance fall into your idea of a small evolutionary change? 

Darwin had evidence to support his claims. He didn't just "make it up".
DaRWIN did kinda just make it up... its a THEORY not a FACT
Here you go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory
 
Scientific theories have been disproven throughout the history of modern man. That is why its called scientific theory and not a fact.
Theories are great because they help humans learn and understand the universe.
But sometimes science doesnt accept the fact that some things are unknowable.
 
its kind of ironic that religion is one of the biggest factors keeping us from continuing to evolve 
 
"Freethinkers reject faith as a valid tool for knowledge. Faith is the opposite of reason because reason imposes very strict limits on what can be true, and faith has no limits at all. A great escape into faith is no retreat to safety. It is nothing less than surrender." - Dan Barker


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At the end of the day, an atheist like Bill Gates is doing more of "god's work" than the entire christian religion. Christians don't take "That isn't against MY religion for an answer". Christianity is a plague on this planet. With all the great things that could come out of cloning ORGANS (not people) and stem cell research it is still banned because some lame christian got offended. It is bad enough that God would allow this planet to be a diseased **** hole. It is even worse that religion does not allow us to fix it.

View media item 376192What kind of god do you guys praise again?
 
Lizards Rapidly Evolve After Introduction to Island
Kimberly Johnson
for National Geographic News
April 21, 2008


Italian wall lizards introduced to a tiny island off the coast of Croatia are evolving in ways that would normally take millions of years to play out, new research shows.

In just a few decades the 5-inch-long (13-centimeter-long) lizards have developed a completely new gut structure, larger heads, and a harder bite, researchers say.

In 1971, scientists transplanted five adult pairs of the reptiles from their original island home in Pod Kopiste to the tiny neighboring island of Pod Mrcaru, both in the south Adriatic Sea.

Genetic testing on the Pod Mrcaru lizards confirmed that the modern population of more than 5,000 Italian wall lizards are all descendants of the original ten lizards left behind in the 1970s.

(Related: "Evolution's 'Driving Force' Shifts Based on Behavior, Study Says" [November 16, 2006].)

Lizard Swarm

While the experiment was more than 30 years in the making, it was not by design, according to Duncan Irschick, a study author and biology professor at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst.

After scientists transplanted the reptiles, the Croatian War of Independence erupted, ending in the mid-1990s. The researchers couldn't get back to island because of the war, Irschick said.

In 2004, however, tourism began to open back up, allowing researchers access to the island laboratory.

(Read: "Kayaking the New Croatia" in National Geographic Adventure Magazine.)

"We didn't know if we would find a lizard there. We had no idea if the original introductions were successful," Irschick said.

What they found, however, was shocking.

"The island was swarming with lizards," he said.

The findings were published in March in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.


Fast-Track Evolution

The new habitat once had its own healthy population of lizards, which were less aggressive than the new implants, Irschick said.

The new species wiped out the indigenous lizard populations, although how it happened is unknown, he said.

The transplanted lizards adapted to their new environment in ways that expedited their evolution physically, Irschick explained.

Pod Mrcaru, for example, had an abundance of plants for the primarily insect-eating lizards to munch on. Physically, however, the lizards were not built to digest a vegetarian diet.

Researchers found that the lizards developed cecal valves—muscles between the large and small intestine—that slowed down food digestion in fermenting chambers, which allowed their bodies to process the vegetation's cellulose into volatile fatty acids.

"They evolved an expanded gut to allow them to process these leaves," Irschick said, adding it was something that had not been documented before. "This was a brand-new structure."

Along with the ability to digest plants came the ability to bite harder, powered by a head that had grown longer and wider.

(Related news: "Komodo Dragon's Bite Is 'Weaker Than a House Cat's'" [April 18, 2008].)

The rapid physical evolution also sparked changes in the lizard's social and behavioral structure, he said. For one, the plentiful food sources allowed for easier reproduction and a denser population.

The lizard also dropped some of its territorial defenses, the authors concluded.

Such physical transformation in just 30 lizard generations takes evolution to a whole new level, Irschick said.

It would be akin to humans evolving and growing a new appendix in several hundred years, he said.

"That's unparalleled. What's most important is how fast this is," he said.

While researchers do know the invader's impact on its reptile brethren, they do not know how the species impacts local vegetation or insects, a subject of future study, Irschick said.

Dramatic Changes

The study demonstrates that a lot of change happens in island environments, said Andrew Hendry, a biology professor at Montreal's McGill University.

What could be debated, however, is how those changes are interpreted—whether or not they had a genetic basis and not a "plastic response to the environment," said Hendry, who was not associated with the study.

There's no dispute that major changes to the lizards' digestive tract occurred. "That kind of change is really dramatic," he added.

"All of this might be evolution," Hendry said. "The logical next step would be to confirm the genetic basis for these changes."
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darwin's THEORY is different than a SCIENTIFIC theory... i'am not uneducated. I've questioned my professors plenty of times and some of those A minuses ended up B minuses just off me being who I am... 

I question Darwins THEORY  because its a cookie cutter answer to a large GAP of time we dont have answers to ... 
darwins theory is a scientific theory. 
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at professors realizing that you have no idea what you're talking about and dropping your grade.

"darwin's theory is a cookie cutter answer"

so who do you think did it? god? 
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darwin's THEORY is different than a SCIENTIFIC theory... i'am not uneducated. I've questioned my professors plenty of times and some of those A minuses ended up B minuses just off me being who I am... 

I question Darwins THEORY  because its a cookie cutter answer to a large GAP of time we dont have answers to ... 
Well, if you can't connect the dots to figure out why the theory of evolution is a scientific theory, my guess would be that you aren't educated on the topic.

You have to understand the basics first. 
 
That is why its called scientific theory and not a fact.

A theory is used to explain a fact. So technically, the existence of a god is also a theory.

Fact - Life formed on planet Earth.

Theory - God created life / The universe expanded from nothing.
 
That is why its called scientific theory and not a fact.

A theory is used to explain a fact. So technically, the existence of a god is also a theory.

Fact - Life formed on planet Earth.

Theory - God created life / The universe expanded from nothing.
That's not a scientific theory though. That's the layman's version of theory which has nothing to do with science.

There's a difference between a scientific theory and just a theory.
 
One of the best evidences we have of evolution is the genetic warfare between humans and microbes. The shorter an organisms reproductive cycle the quicker it evolves, this is why bacteria evolve so quickly to keep up with out defenses.
 
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for those that Believe Darwin theory/opinion. His theory means that we are here on Earth by chance. Meaning that the chances of this life elsewhere is a slim chance to none. i doubt that very much. Darwins theory isnt backed by DATA per se. simply observations which is the same thing as a theory but not the same simply because there is no continual data that can prove his supposed findings. ive been taught this theory my entire life but I HAVE NEVER BELIEVED ONE WORD of this. since i was first introduced to this I believed it to be a shermed out explaination on where we originally come from.

there is no constant observation for one man to have a conclusion on his wn exsistnce when he is unaware of ALL of the evidence.

the theory of relativity is genius.

the theory of evolution is a cop out to learning our true origins

***puts on flamesuit
 
for those that Believe Darwin theory/opinion. His theory means that we are here on Earth by chance. Meaning that the chances of this life elsewhere is a slim chance to none. i doubt that very much. Darwins theory isnt backed by DATA per se. simply observations which is the same thing as a theory but not the same simply because there is no continual data that can prove his supposed findings. ive been taught this theory my entire life but I HAVE NEVER BELIEVED ONE WORD of this. since i was first introduced to this I believed it to be a shermed out explaination on where we originally come from.

there is no constant observation for one man to have a conclusion on his wn exsistnce when he is unaware of ALL of the evidence.

the theory of relativity is genius.

the theory of evolution is a cop out to learning our true origins

***puts on flamesuit
if you dont believe in evolution why do you get a flu shot every year? do you have a better theory?
 
for those that Believe Darwin theory/opinion. His theory means that we are here on Earth by chance. 
No, it doesn't. All evolution states is that genes are changing over time. Hopefully you are aware of antibiotic resistant bacteria or the new strains of viruses that come about every year. That is the result of evolution. This is a fact of life whether you willfully ignore it or not.
Darwins theory isnt backed by DATA per se. simply observations which is the same thing as a theory but not the same simply because there is no continual data that can prove his supposed findings. 
Really? Because here (http://myxo.css.msu.edu/ecoli/index.html) we see empirical evidence of evolution. In other words, DATA exists. And that's just one example! So either you are ignorant of the evidence or you conveniently ignore it.

Please educate yourself and stop spewing false information. 
 
for those that Believe Darwin theory/opinion. His theory means that we are here on Earth by chance. Meaning that the chances of this life elsewhere is a slim chance to none. i doubt that very much. Darwins theory isnt backed by DATA per se. simply observations which is the same thing as a theory but not the same simply because there is no continual data that can prove his supposed findings. ive been taught this theory my entire life but I HAVE NEVER BELIEVED ONE WORD of this. since i was first introduced to this I believed it to be a shermed out explaination on where we originally come from.

there is no constant observation for one man to have a conclusion on his wn exsistnce when he is unaware of ALL of the evidence.

the theory of relativity is genius.

the theory of evolution is a cop out to learning our true origins

***puts on flamesuit

His theory does not state we are here by chance. Herp derp, natural selection?)

His theory does not try to explain the origins of life. His theory explains the change in the inherited characteristics of biological populations over successive generations.

Scientifically speaking, a theory is a well substantiated idea that explains aspects of the natural world.

http://www.livescience.com/21491-what-is-a-scientific-theory-definition-of-theory.html

Science is an extremely competitive field. If any flaws were discovered in evolutionary theory they would be quickly corrected. All of the alleged flaws that creationists put forth have been investigated careful by scientists and they simply do not hold water. They are usually based on misunderstandings of the theory or misrepresentation of the evidence.

"I have been taught this theory my entire life" -- Sure you have.
 
No, it doesn't. All evolution states is that genes are changing over time. Hopefully you are aware of antibiotic resistant bacteria or the new strains of viruses that come about every year. That is the result of evolution. This is a fact of life whether you willfully ignore it or not.


Really? Because here (http://myxo.css.msu.edu/ecoli/index.html
) we see empirical evidence of evolution. In other words, DATA exists. And that's just one example! So either you are ignorant of the evidence or you conveniently ignore it.

Please educate yourself and stop spewing false information. 
the evolution of E.Coli and the human genome is entirely 2 different subjects. Stop quoting things you learned last semester in Bio 201.

empirical evidence of HUMAN evolution. not E.Coli evolution... children always point to the LAST thing they saw. forgetting entirely of all they learned previously...
 
His theory does not state we are here by chance. Herp derp, natural selection?)

His theory does not try to explain the origins of life. His theory explains the change in the inherited characteristics of biological populations over successive generations.

Scientifically speaking, a theory is a well substantiated idea that explains aspects of the natural world.

http://www.livescience.com/21491-what-is-a-scientific-theory-definition-of-theory.html

Science is an extremely competitive field. If any flaws were discovered in evolutionary theory they would be quickly corrected. All of the alleged flaws that creationists put forth have been investigated careful by scientists and they simply do not hold water. They are usually based on misunderstandings of the theory or misrepresentation of the evidence.

"I have been taught this theory my entire life" -- Sure you have.
have we not been indoctrinated in this theory since we were kids no?
 
No, it doesn't. All evolution states is that genes are changing over time. Hopefully you are aware of antibiotic resistant bacteria or the new strains of viruses that come about every year. That is the result of evolution. This is a fact of life whether you willfully ignore it or not.


Really? Because here (http://myxo.css.msu.edu/ecoli/index.html
) we see empirical evidence of evolution. In other words, DATA exists. And that's just one example! So either you are ignorant of the evidence or you conveniently ignore it.

Please educate yourself and stop spewing false information. 
the evolution of E.Coli and the human genome is entirely 2 different subjects. Stop quoting things you learned last semester in Bio 201.

empirical evidence of HUMAN evolution. not E.Coli evolution... children always point to the LAST thing they saw. forgetting entirely of all they learned previously...
this is the guy sitting in the back of 11th grade algebra 1 asking the teacher on the last day before the exam why there are letters in the math equasions
 
His theory does not state we are here by chance. Herp derp, natural selection?)

His theory does not try to explain the origins of life. His theory explains the change in the inherited characteristics of biological populations over successive generations.

Scientifically speaking, a theory is a well substantiated idea that explains aspects of the natural world.

http://www.livescience.com/21491-what-is-a-scientific-theory-definition-of-theory.html

Science is an extremely competitive field. If any flaws were discovered in evolutionary theory they would be quickly corrected. All of the alleged flaws that creationists put forth have been investigated careful by scientists and they simply do not hold water. They are usually based on misunderstandings of the theory or misrepresentation of the evidence.

"I have been taught this theory my entire life" -- Sure you have.
have we not been indoctrinated in this theory since we were kids no?
you obviously don't understand the reasoning/specifics of the theory... maybe your school didn't go into the subject in depth.
 
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