***Official Breakfast Club Interview Thread***

[kevlar]

trap music got ya'll ****** mind warped.

Basically

 

[kingfoamnyc]

Crunk > Trap

At least back then ****** favorite buzz word wasn't "relevant" and we didn't have to deal with "Lil John and the Eastside Boyz >> (Insert legend)

 

[flesh prince]

This logic so flawed.

how?

a cam release garners no attention from anyone 20 and under in 2016

20 year olds right now were 6-8 in 2002-2004...they may vaguely remember hey ma or some of the other hits

y'all overrate how important your adolescent idols were

people respect the legacy but even a lot of that is ironic tumblr love i.e. they know him for the pink range rover and pink minks and the cell phone picture but can't tell you a verse...

and that's completely fine...everyone isn't gonna be Kanye and adapt to each and every sound change in rap

 

[flesh prince]

and when people say relevant you know what ****** mean

rap has always been youth (16-26) driven

assuming y'all are late 20's/early 30's, when you were 15-20 in the early 2000's big daddy kane/public enemy/etc. were legends for their contributions but they werent relevant in the conversation of who was hot at the time (i.e. Fab, Puff, Nas, Hov, DMX, Em, OutKast, etc.) and you'd laugh at the dusty old head trying to compare the two

y'all just wanna pull the "what does relevant mean" card because now you and your favorites have both gotten older + you don't like the yachty and uzis that are relevant now

 

[$tacy]

Crunk > Trap

At least back then ****** favorite buzz word wasn't "relevant" and we didn't have to deal with "Lil John and the Eastside Boyz >> (Insert legend)

View media item 2202616So basically u don't like the word relevant when the rapper u like isn't relevant? It's cool b. I like alot of rappers who aren't relevant, I just don't put them on that pedestal like their gods gift to earth.

 

[flesh prince]

Crunk > Trap

At least back then ****** favorite buzz word wasn't "relevant" and we didn't have to deal with "Lil John and the Eastside Boyz >> (Insert legend)

was snap your fingers do your step really better than 21 savage or uzi?

just come out and say you like one era better because you were in high school and have a lot of good memories to that music

 

[kingfoamnyc]

View media item 2202616So basically u don't like the word relevant when the rapper u like isn't relevant? It's cool b. I like alot of rappers who aren't relevant, I just don't put them on that pedestal like their gods gift to earth.

I don't like the term relevant in this day and age because the guys you deem relevant aren't moving any type of units.

 

[kingfoamnyc]

was snap your fingers do your step really better than 21 savage or uzi?

just come out and say you like one era better because you were in high school and have a lot of good memories to that music

Ain't that a good enough reason to make me feel like that era was better ? Dudes weren't lyrical AT ALL but I could still throw of that old **** with a few of my people's and **** would be lit. These new cats got the shelf life of milk and shouldn't even be in the same discussion with these legends "relevant" or not.

 

[kingfoamnyc]

2016 "relevant rap" is a live action version of The Real Slim Shady video

 

[wavycrocket]

Don't let this watered down (Uzi, Yachty, Rich da Kidd, Desiigner, the rest of the colored haired tumblr clones etc) define "Trap". All this new sht with the exception of Future and Migos is not "Trap Music".

Jeezy
Tip
Future
Gucci
Gotti

Etc. THAT is real trap music. And those dudes are vets...with real discographies, fan bases and hits that are still relevant today. We need to find a new genre for the clones that are out today.

NYC dudes once again hating on trap music for no reason at all. We talking about Cam....and somehow, trap music gets brought up .

 

[kingfoamnyc]

Wait wut

Quite sure it was Flesh Pitts who did the initial comparison between the colored kids and cam stating no one is turning that off to bump him

And no you can't separate it that's what it is. N_s want to bait and switch when certain rappers don't benefit their arguments

 

[$tacy]

I don't like the term relevant in this day and age because the guys you deem relevant aren't moving any type of units.

Or we could just stop using record sales as a measuring stick to define relevant.

 

[$tacy]

Don't let this watered down (Uzi, Yachty, Rich da Kidd, Desiigner, the rest of the colored haired tumblr clones etc) define "Trap". All this new sht with the exception of Future and Migos is not "Trap Music".

Jeezy
Tip
Future
Gucci
Gotti

Etc. THAT is real trap music. And those dudes are vets...with real discographies, fan bases and hits that are still relevant today. We need to find a new genre for the clones that are out today.

NYC dudes once again hating on trap music for no reason at all. We talking about Cam....and somehow, trap music gets brought up .

I like to call it festival rap

 

[a blinkin]

I like to call it festival rap

Quite possibly the most accurate description anyone could have come up with.

 

[kingfoamnyc]

Or we could just stop using record sales as a measuring stick to define relevant.

Y'all don't play fair. I only hear this when the relevancy argument is being discussed

 

[trynafeelmink]

and when people say relevant you know what ****** mean

rap has always been youth (16-26) driven

assuming y'all are late 20's/early 30's, when you were 15-20 in the early 2000's big daddy kane/public enemy/etc. were legends for their contributions but they werent relevant in the conversation of who was hot at the time (i.e. Fab, Puff, Nas, Hov, DMX, Em, OutKast, etc.) and you'd laugh at the dusty old head trying to compare the two

y'all just wanna pull the "what does relevant mean" card because now you and your favorites have both gotten older + you don't like the yachty and uzis that are relevant now

Rap was youth Driven because up until recently the best music was coming from the youth, not to mention it was nowhere near as big of a demographic as it is now... now not only is that not true but damn near anybody who's a "Star" in rap is either pushing 30 or well above that age.

Before if you weren't known in that (16-26) demo you were irrelevant because radio wouldn't play you, and the major networks, which were controlled by the major labels wouldn't play you either. So all we had to quantify if someone was relevant were sales....

And i know while growing up Big Daddy Kane/Rakim/PE etc etc weren't putting up anything NEAR the sales of the "HOT" artist.

Nowadays Hiphop has expanded it's crowd, it has a much lengthier history, and different Hiphop survives in different circles and has several outlets to gauge public interest in an artist.

So when someone tells me Game isn't relevant today because he did 30K... yet someone who is "Relevant" could drop today and get the same #'s it just doesn't add up.

Not to mention that not only are ya'll quantifying relevancy with a specific age Range, but also a specific sound.

Example i never here a guy like logic being mentioned as "Hot" but he's put up the numbers, he's doing real arena tours & the music is actually pretty decent (Crazy how this is always last in the convos)

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Ain't no way a ***** in a group with big L & Ma$e.... handpicked by Big to be signed.... Multiple tracks with Pun, Kiss, X in there prime... Then goes on to SHINE on rocafella in their prime and ya'll gonna be in here talkin as if Cam don't got bars

Just for ***** and giggles here's tracks shined o or held his own with cats people consider the Goats

I mean UGod is in Wu Tang. Just cuz he was around greatness doesn't mean he was great. Cam was a aight rapper with great production. Nothing more. And Jim killed Cam on the CHWM song then Santana killed him on Losing Weight.

 

[trynafeelmink]

I mean UGod is in Wu Tang. Just cuz he was around greatness doesn't mean he was great. Cam was a aight rapper with great production. Nothing more. And Jim killed Cam on the CHWM song then Santana killed him on Losing Weight.

Blessing to you

 

[wavycrocket]

Logic and G Eazy don't count.

They are playing by an entirely different set of rules....and have access and path to more opportunities and crowds due to their "image" (I know....logic is mixed)

 

[Maximus Meridius]

I mean UGod is in Wu Tang. Just cuz he was around greatness doesn't mean he was great. Cam was a aight rapper with great production. Nothing more. And Jim killed Cam on the CHWM song then Santana killed him on Losing Weight.

Blessing to you

You too my brotha.

 

[trynafeelmink]

Or we could just stop using record sales as a measuring stick to define relevant.

So what's tangible to prove relevancy that is equal to all artist... Because on here somehow your only relevant if your popular amongst the 16-26 age group or if your gettin heavy play in the strip club or the blogs (and that's barely a requirement now)

So if game does 30K on an independent making music based off 1992 & YG who makes music tailored for this generation on a major does 40K... how is one artist relevant & another not??

Like is game 30K of people who spent their money invalidated because they don't like the new style of music. are their contributions not relevant either?

 

[Maximus Meridius]

and when people say relevant you know what ****** mean

rap has always been youth (16-26) driven

assuming y'all are late 20's/early 30's, when you were 15-20 in the early 2000's big daddy kane/public enemy/etc. were legends for their contributions but they werent relevant in the conversation of who was hot at the time (i.e. Fab, Puff, Nas, Hov, DMX, Em, OutKast, etc.) and you'd laugh at the dusty old head trying to compare the two

y'all just wanna pull the "what does relevant mean" card because now you and your favorites have both gotten older + you don't like the yachty and uzis that are relevant now

Rap was youth Driven because up until recently the best music was coming from the youth, not to mention it was nowhere near as big of a demographic as it is now... now not only is that not true but damn near anybody who's a "Star" in rap is either pushing 30 or well above that age.

Before if you weren't known in that (16-26) demo you were irrelevant because radio wouldn't play you, and the major networks, which were controlled by the major labels wouldn't play you either. So all we had to quantify if someone was relevant were sales....

And i know while growing up Big Daddy Kane/Rakim/PE etc etc weren't putting up anything NEAR the sales of the "HOT" artist.

Nowadays Hiphop has expanded it's crowd, it has a much lengthier history, and different Hiphop survives in different circles and has several outlets to gauge public interest in an artist.

So when someone tells me Game isn't relevant today because he did 30K... yet someone who is "Relevant" could drop today and get the same #'s it just doesn't add up.

Not to mention that not only are ya'll quantifying relevancy with a specific age Range, but also a specific sound.

Example i never here a guy like logic being mentioned as "Hot" but he's put up the numbers, he's doing real arena tours & the music is actually pretty decent (Crazy how this is always last in the convos)

And to add to this in the early 2000's being "relevant" was thrown around this much. Yeah we would call certain rappers washed up but now it's like the go thing.

"Oh he's irrelevant he's a hater"


That weak **** ain't start till social media took off and everybody has a voice.


And back then it was cool to go back and listen to older ****. People just didn't stop at music that came out 5-7 years ago. It was cool to know the history of hip hop, to listen to the classics. Now it's cool to be dumb about the culture. If you don't know the words to certain albums (Illmatic, Reasonable Doubt, The Chronic, All Eyez On Me, Ready To Die) you ain't qualified.

 

[$tacy]

And to add to this in the early 2000's being "relevant" was thrown around this much. Yeah we would call certain rappers washed up but now it's like the go thing.

"Oh he's irrelevant he's a hater"


That weak **** ain't start till social media took off and everybody has a voice.


And back then it was cool to go back and listen to older ****. People just didn't stop at music that came out 5-7 years ago. It was cool to know the history of hip hop, to listen to the classics. Now it's cool to be dumb about the culture. If you don't know the words to certain albums (Illmatic, Reasonable Doubt, The Chronic, All Eyez On Me, Ready To Die) you ain't qualified.

At the end of the day camron isn't relevant musically right now. Can he make a come back if he puts out music? Maybe. But as of 10/18/16 he's not relevant b, u can't tell me any different. I'm not denying his wave, he had ****** out here rocking pink. Maybe he can drop something and take **** over who knows but as of today he's not relevant.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

I ain't defending Cam bruh

 

[$tacy]

I'm just skipping the essays and going back to the og point