Sportbike Club terrorizes family in a Range Rover in Manhattan (vid)

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gimmeS0ME said:
 
as someone pointed out before, this video was from a helmet cam of ONE OF THE BIKERS.  if the RR had been in the wrong from the very beginning and provoked the whole ordeal, don't you think the biker would've posted that part too?

but no, he only edited the video to show, where he felt, his other biker buddy "got rear ended purposely" by the RR.

can someone explain that?
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Sure this is a easy one the dude with helmet cam was riding in front of the pack so when the road beef came to where he was he started filming from that point.
 
gimmeS0ME said:
as someone pointed out before, this video was from a helmet cam of ONE OF THE BIKERS.  if the RR had been in the wrong from the very beginning and provoked the whole ordeal, don't you think the biker would've posted that part too?

but no, he only edited the video to show, where he felt, his other biker buddy "got rear ended purposely" by the RR.

can someone explain that?
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You are making all kinds of assumptions, so let me explain that for you sir.

We dont know where the video officially began or officialy ended, as well as the fact that we dont know if he edited it or not.

Does that help?

Akhi said:
Man ISN has earned his stripes on here:lol:  Youngins just don't know...
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Im not even paying these noobs no mind forreal. Lol.
Meth need to give me bak my name.
 
gimmeS0ME said:
 
as someone pointed out before, this video was from a helmet cam of ONE OF THE BIKERS.  if the RR had been in the wrong from the very beginning and provoked the whole ordeal, don't you think the biker would've posted that part too?

but no, he only edited the video to show, where he felt, his other biker buddy "got rear ended purposely" by the RR.

can someone explain that?
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Da video from da bikers helmets is edit

Ed and cant be trusted b

Once da NYPD footage comes out Da

Proof will b in da puddin B
 
gimmeS0ME said:
 
as someone pointed out before, this video was from a helmet cam of ONE OF THE BIKERS.  if the RR had been in the wrong from the very beginning and provoked the whole ordeal, don't you think the biker would've posted that part too?

but no, he only edited the video to show, where he felt, his other biker buddy "got rear ended purposely" by the RR.

can someone explain that?
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nothing else needs to be said. Give his man a thumbs up.
 
ISNx2 said:
 
gimmeS0ME said:
as someone pointed out before, this video was from a helmet cam of ONE OF THE BIKERS.  if the RR had been in the wrong from the very beginning and provoked the whole ordeal, don't you think the biker would've posted that part too?

but no, he only edited the video to show, where he felt, his other biker buddy "got rear ended purposely" by the RR.

can someone explain that?
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You are making all kinds of assumptions, so let me explain that for you sir.

We dont know where the video officially began or officialy ended, as well as the fact that we dont know if he edited it or not.

Does that help?
Akhi said:
Man ISN has earned his stripes on here:lol:  Youngins just don't know...
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Im not even paying these noobs no mind forreal. Lol.
Meth need to give me bak my name.
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two questions.

is there any video proof of the rr antagonizing the bikers?

is there video proof of the bikers antagonizing the rr?
 
ISNx2 said:
CreateDestroy said:
That was after his car was attacked the first time...His wife was already on 911 then.

its so easy to see who would snitch on their bike club/end up doing wheelchair wheelies and who would have left the Range Rover alone and gone home to their parents house.
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Neither us ride bikes so how is that relevant to being in a situation where you are a driver of a motor vehicle with 4 wheels?

You are making blind assumptions that the RR was randomly attacked,
Which everyone knows is hard to follow bc there is no clear evidence.

The driver bears a strong resemblance to a lot of responses in this thread.
Instead of taking a lower case "L," and ignore the fact the law was being broken, he choose to prove a point due to the fact the law was being broken and ended up with an upper case "L."

Also, this was a "leisurely drive."
It seem as tho mr lien was more so a hurry then any of the other cars.
I didnt see any cars really trailing him.

I wonder if its bc these other drivers didnt feel the need to put themselves or family in danger bc the law was being broken.
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1. When did I say the Range was Randomly attacked?
2. Where did you see the statements of other drivers who were on that same stretch of highway?
3. Where is the proof he was in a "hurry" on a "leisurely drive" ....those two statements contradict each other
4. Where is the evidence he was trying to prove a point?

A. There is evidence his car was attacked during the beginning of the video (slashed tire, shattered window)
B. There is evidence they were in fear of the situation (911 calls from before the video even started)


I'm looking at the evidence and proof of what went on.... you are invested in the emotional aspect of somebody being run over.
 
DON RAMON said:
so which is it?

the driver had no business being on the road?

or

the driver shouldn't have stopped and allowed to get himself surrounded by the bikers?


there really isn't any other choice to be made here so choose one
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Ummm yes there is and its the choice nobody wants to admit is that he should not have provoked that situation with his family in the car.Sorry but if I see trouble coming with my wife and kids with me im taking the alternate route there is no shame in that no punk out or none of that bs.You are acting like the head of your household and keeping your family safe.Instead of getting into a pissing contest with a bunch of dudes you don't know.
 
zx10kid said:
Ummm yes there is and its the choice nobody wants to admit is that he should not have provoked that situation with his family in the car.Sorry but if I see trouble coming with my wife and kids with me im taking the alternate route there is no shame in that no punk out or none of that bs.You are acting like the head of your household and keeping your family safe.Instead of getting into a pissing contest with a bunch of dudes you don't know.
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Rollinwithangel said:
If I see a group of bikers and my wife and 2 year old are in the car they can pass me and do their thing, no need for me to point out they're breaking the law and try to be macho
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So it's only two people in here that agree with this?
 
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CreateDestroy said:
1. When did I say the Range was Randomly attacked?
2. Where did you see the statements of other drivers who were on that same stretch of highway?
3. Where is the proof he was in a "hurry" on a "leisurely drive" ....those two statements contradict each other
4. Where is the evidence he was trying to prove a point?

A. There is evidence his car was attacked during the beginning of the video (slashed tire, shattered window)
B. There is evidence they were in fear of the situation (911 calls from before the video even started)


I'm looking at the evidence and proof of what went on.... you are invested in the emotional aspect of somebody being run over.
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I want to respond to each thing you said, but i honestly feel as though you are smart enough to reread what youve said, then reread what i said then come up with a more reasonable thing to say.

But personally, i dont care if someone gets ran over or not.
Im invested in the fact that this mans family was in the car and it could have been avoided.
Everything after that, to me, is neither here nor there.
RR wouldnt have got beat on if etc etc etc
Bikers wouldnt have got rode on if etc etc etc

It doesnt maker bc the way i rationalize things, if i were with my family, i WOULD NEVER be in that situation. Not ever.

CreateDestroy said:
where is the evidence of this pissing contest?
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IMO, in the video, tho not all of the incident, it seems that it was either a random act started by the bikers or the bikers responding to mr lien, to initiate things.
My past experiences in life cause me to believe that the bikers werent acting out of random hate towards the RR but were acting out of response to something he did to them.
Not bc someone was driven over but bc it seems odd that hundreds of bikers would stop on a beautiful dayto do stunts just to mess with a random range rover. Just seems as if they were provoked to do what they did.
Either way, both parties should go down for it.

Why are yall getting so embedded to this thing?
A lot you all seem upset about my stance as if you are lossing money bc of it.

Ps im convinced a lot of you dont read either.
 
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CreateDestroy said:
gotta respect him for having an online hype man i guess
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Damn this thread is still on General front page? :smh: @ some of you guys camping out in this thread just to argue the same thing over and over again? I see some NTers posting on page 10 and still posting on page 73! :lol: This story is done and over with...
 
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zx10kid said:
DON RAMON said:
so which is it?


the driver had no business being on the road?


or


the driver shouldn't have stopped and allowed to get himself surrounded by the bikers?



there really isn't any other choice to be made here so choose one
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Ummm yes there is and its the choice nobody wants to admit is that he should not have provoked that situation with his family in the car.Sorry but if I see trouble coming with my wife and kids with me im taking the alternate route there is no shame in that no punk out or none of that bs.You are acting like the head of your household and keeping your family safe.Instead of getting into a pissing contest with a bunch of dudes you don't know.
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stop it. you're not answering the question i asked you.

you wrote: "By that I mean I would anyalize the situation very carefully by not being somewhere i have no bussneiss being in the first place especially with my wife and kids."

there was no alternate route. he was on the west side highway

so once again, he had no business being where exactly?
 
CreateDestroy said:
where is the evidence of this pissing contest?
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A paralyzed rider .A wife and child watching there husband father get beat even though he deserved it no child should have to see that.Why was he the only vehicle out there.Why did he feel the need to muscle his way though the crowd.That Pissing contest that says im not gonna move and think about my family's safety first.What did this guy had to prove.
 
SunDOOBIE said:
Damn this thread is still on General front page?
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@ some of you guys camping out in this thread just to argue the same thing over and over again? I see some NTers posting on page 10 and still posting on page 73!
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This story is done and over with...
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sad state of affairs 
 
Rollinwithangel said:
 
zx10kid said:
Ummm yes there is and its the choice nobody wants to admit is that he should not have provoked that situation with his family in the car.Sorry but if I see trouble coming with my wife and kids with me im taking the alternate route there is no shame in that no punk out or none of that bs.You are acting like the head of your household and keeping your family safe.Instead of getting into a pissing contest with a bunch of dudes you don't know.
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Rollinwithangel said:
If I see a group of bikers and my wife and 2 year old are in the car they can pass me and do their thing, no need for me to point out they're breaking the law and try to be macho
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So it's only two people in here with that agree with this?
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so as many have pointed out, in hindsight the guy should have done ______ to avoid the situation. however if he does continue to keep driving, not actually trying to bother the bikers but just driving on the road that the bikers think they own how does this justify any of the things that the bikers did? (break check, block his path, attack his car)

just because the RR driver COULD have done something to avoid the situation does not take ANY blame away from the bikers.
 
zx10kid said:
CreateDestroy said:
where is the evidence of this pissing contest?
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A paralyzed rider .A wife and child watching there husband father get beat even though he deserved it no child should have to see that.Why was he the only vehicle out there.Why did he feel the need to muscle his way though the crowd.That Pissing contest that says im not gonna move and think about my family's safety first.What did this guy had to prove.
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he was on 911 trying to get help before he ran over dude.... Don't think he was trying to prove anything kid

EDIT: why am i arguing with the hype man? who are you?
 
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CreateDestroy said:
 
zx10kid said:
 
CreateDestroy said:
where is the evidence of this pissing contest?
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A paralyzed rider .A wife and child watching there husband father get beat even though he deserved it no child should have to see that.Why was he the only vehicle out there.Why did he feel the need to muscle his way though the crowd.That Pissing contest that says im not gonna move and think about my family's safety first.What did this guy had to prove.
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he was on 911 trying to get help before he ran over dude.... Don't think he was trying to prove anything kid

EDIT: why am i arguing with the hype man? who are you?
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 at least ninjahood is man enough to stand behind his own SN and not create new ones to act foolish
 
Been in general since 01 and don't know ISN? 
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Of course you don't know me because I just signed up this year with no reference to my OG name
 
ISNx2 said:
CreateDestroy said:
1. When did I say the Range was Randomly attacked?
2. Where did you see the statements of other drivers who were on that same stretch of highway?
3. Where is the proof he was in a "hurry" on a "leisurely drive" ....those two statements contradict each other
4. Where is the evidence he was trying to prove a point?

A. There is evidence his car was attacked during the beginning of the video (slashed tire, shattered window)
B. There is evidence they were in fear of the situation (911 calls from before the video even started)


I'm looking at the evidence and proof of what went on.... you are invested in the emotional aspect of somebody being run over.
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I want to respond to each thing you said, but i honestly feel as though you are smart enough to reread what youve said, then reread what i said then come up with a more reasonable thing to say.

But personally, i dont care if someone gets ran over or not.
Im invested in the fact that this mans family was in the car and it could have been avoided.
Everything after that, to me, is neither here nor there.
RR wouldnt have got beat on if etc etc etc
Bikers wouldnt have got rode on if etc etc etc

It doesnt maker bc the way i rationalize things, if i were with my family, i WOULD NEVER be in that situation. Not ever.

CreateDestroy said:
where is the evidence of this pissing contest?
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IMO, in the video, tho not all of the incident, it seems that it was either a random act started by the bikers or the bikers responding to mr lien, to initiate things.
My past experiences in life cause me to believe that the bikers werent acting out of random hate towards the RR but were acting out of response to something he did to them.
Not bc someone was driven over but bc it seems odd that hundreds of bikers would stop on a beautiful dayto do stunts just to mess with a random range rover. Just seems as if they were provoked to do what they did.
Either way, both parties should go down for it.

Why are yall getting so embedded to this thing?
A lot you all seem upset about my stance as if you are lossing money bc of it.

Ps im convinced a lot of you dont read either.
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1. you past experiences don't mean anything to law enforcement
2. the driver is not going down because their is no evidence of wrongdoing
3. the biker getting run over = self defense due to the fact the range was getting attacked
4. your hype man is embarrassing himself, handle ya peoples
 
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