2013-2014 NBA Thread - IND @ WAS and OKC @ LAC on ESPN

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dwight has been nothing short of amazing this whole series. to say anything contrary is ridiculous.

i didn't see mo williams step out, but i'm still outraged about the flagrant call, and the out of bounds call on dwight when LMA CLEARLY knocked it out. also thought dwight got fouled on the first possession of overtime when they dove to the floor

Did Portland only get two free throws out of the flagrant, and lose the ball anyways? It still accounted for two points, so it didn't change anything with 4 minutes left. It was called flagrant on the floor, difficult to overturn esp in today's game.

The only bad call was the ball going off LMA and not Dwight, other than that Houston had a ton of problems stopping Portland in overtime.

Let's not act like Harden didn't get foul calls after taking three steps and tripping on his own feet.
 
game 3: 48 seconds left. up by 3. instead of killing the clock, he rushes up court to take a contested layup. next possession down, batum hits a 3.

game 4: 24 seconds left, up 2. instead of killing the clock, he rushes up court to get ripped by mo williams, who ends up hitting a 3 on the same possession.

for as good as jeremy lin can be at times, this is how bad he can be.
 
Also I like the idea of black tape on the Clippers logo or something close to it. Turning your warmups inside out isn't a very powerful message at all, nobody watches you warm up. I like that the Rockets and Blazers wore black socks
 
Did y'all read the article? Trump just said his girl out his business out there. He never cosigned with the racism. Y'all just head the title huh?
 
Just suspend him indef this is not looking good for the League. Its all over the US making headlines, Silver better make a move quick!
 
It seems like people are overlooking the history/comments Sterling has had regarding hispanics. Everyone keeps making this a black issue. It's more than that.


You guys are right, though. I think I'll go to the game and try to start a few **** YOU STERLING chants.
 
This is the only way to get him out. Hurt his pockets. No more Cliff Paul commercials?


I'd he's not gone by next season do you guys agree with JVG that the players and coach should be allows to be FAs?
Yeah good on State Farm.

Also no more Cliff Paul :pimp:

As far as JVG's comments, sure, but the owners at large would never allow that.  It sets a precedent for them to lose their precious players next time they say/do something objectionable.
Lee Jenkins of SI wrote about this yesterday (sort of).
David Stern, NBA validated Donald Sterling with Chris Paul trade

The uproar among the Lakers and their fans over the vetoed Chris Paul trade of Dec. 2011 was inspired mainly by self-interest. The Lakers wanted Paul to assume the franchise mantle from Kobe Bryant. They planned to eventually partner him with Dwight Howard. And they were understandably enraged when then-Commissioner David Stern scuttled their super team. But after Stern reversed course and sent Paul across town instead, their anger was intensified by moral outrage. The Lakers were incredulous that Stern, acting as temporary steward of the New Orleans Pelicans, would capsize the NBA's flagship franchise so he could throw a lifeboat to the bigot, the cheapskate, the miscreant who owned the Clippers. Stern was punishing the club that brought his league nothing but plaudits and riches while rewarding the one that brought nothing but embarrassment and shame. It was like handing a Ferrari to a juvenile delinquent and expecting his behavior to improve.

Stern claimed he was working in the best interest of the Pelicans, as if Al-Farouq Aminu was a more appealing prospect than Goran Dragic, but the only person he helped was Sterling. Stern had spent years hearing Sterling's racist commentary, often through court documents, and declined to discipline him. Ignoring Sterling was reprehensible, but no one in the NBA took the old fool seriously. All he did, besides spew venom, was bungle draft picks and free-agent signings. He wasn't a threat to anybody but himself and his woebegone organization. And that's how he would have continued for perpetuity, seen only on Lottery Night, had Stern not intervened and made him more dangerous.

Superstars are all that really matter in the NBA. Get one and you can land another. Get two and a third will join. Championship parades ensue. Sterling didn't acquire Paul through any kind of deal-making savvy. Paul was a gift from Stern, a lifetime underachievement award and a pawn who allowed the outgoing commissioner to prove a point. Stern wants to believe any team can compete in the modern NBA, even one as dramatically mismanaged as the Clippers, and he stacked the deck in their favor. Without Stern's philanthropic act, Paul is a Laker, Doc Rivers is a Celtic, and Blake Griffin is either already gone or on his way out. And Sterling hasn't hijacked arguably the best first round in the history of the playoffs with a screenplay that sounds like it was written by Paula Deen. Sterling took the Ferrari, all right, and crashed it right into the NBA offices.

Sterling was a racist before the Paul trade, and he'd have remained one regardless, but the NBA validated him. They emboldened him. They transported him, in one motion, from the margin of the league to the forefront of it. They provided him a bigger voice, knowing full well the ugliness that could emanate. Under Paul's leadership -- not Sterling's -- the Clippers predictably became a top-three team in the Western Conference, re-signing Griffin, luring Rivers, and attracting a bevy of the usual ring chasers. From his courtside seat, Sterling savored the wins, the sellout crowds and the playoff appearances. He looked like a maitre d' whose restaurant sat empty for three decades and suddenly had a line snaking around the block.

Given the Lakers' plunge into irrelevance, the Clippers threatened to capture a generation of L.A. basketball fans, seduced by Paul-to-Griffin half-court alley-oops. They envisioned a 10-year-run, cutting into the Laker monopoly, turning L.A. into a Clipper town. That fantasy, while enticing, is over. Hollywood tolerates eccentrics, not bigots. Just check the IMDB database for Mel Gibson. Staples Center will still be packed for Game 5 with Clipper diehards, but swing voters won't support a Sterling enterprise, and neither will one very significant potential free agent. If LeBron James opts out of his contract in Miami after this season, there aren't many teams he'd consider, but the Clippers were one. He admires Rivers. He loves Paul. L.A. offers a massive market with boundless sunshine. But given how strongly James condemned Sterling on Saturday, he seemed to be crossing the Clippers off the list.

Of course, few players share James' social conscience, and most will still line up to catch passes from Paul, throw lobs to Griffin, and take money from Sterling. As long as Sterling owns the Clippers, and as long as Paul plays for them, there's really no adequate punishment. New commissioner Adam Silver could suspend Sterling for the next 500 games, but that's just another reward. Considering Sterling's basketball acumen and public persona, the Clippers benefit most from his absence. The fairest solution, while admittedly farfetched, is to take back what was given. Void the contract Paul signed last summer. Make him a free agent again. Let him schedule a meeting with Sterling on July 1, look the man in the eye, and decide if he wants to keep carrying dead weight. The NBA has lost all credibility on this case.

Let the player be the judge.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nb...ald-sterling-chris-paul-clippers-david-stern/

/bitter Lakers fan :lol:
 
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ive said this before just get rid of the clippers or relocate them (seattle).
the nba does not need two teams in LA. it will always be laker land. and no, im not a laker fan.

contract them and let the worst teams have their choice of players.
 
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It seems like people are overlooking the history/comments Sterling has had regarding hispanics. Everyone keeps making this a black issue. It's more than that.


You guys are right, though. I think I'll go to the game and try to start a few **** YOU STERLING chants.
I think mostly because the majority of his employees are black, but it's true that he hates hispanics too, look at the lawsuits he settled.
Did y'all read the article? Trump just said his girl out his business out there. He never cosigned with the racism. Y'all just head the title huh?
I just have to question the mentality/motives of all these folks who want to make this about the girl.  Sounds like they really want to give Sterling a pass but know they can't quite do it publicly so they're trying to reframe the issue.  The girl is irrelevant to the story that matters.

Trump is very much an "I'm not racist, but..." type of guy.
 
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Stephen A is annoying when he acts like this black spokesperson



Just shut up


And I agree that reverse jersey **** was so stupid.


People are stupid thinking these old white owners are gonna join together to try to force another white owner to sell his time


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man ok

Dont do it to yourself man not at this moment. You talking about waiting till the off season this is Happening NOW. You as a fan yeah you want your boys to win the chip...the question is are you going make a stance as fan of that team or society in general? :nerd: You see its **** like this when you say stuff like that it constantly gets brushed under the rug NO DEAL WITH IT NOW PERIOD!
 
the league should take action on maurice williams. altercation at the end of the gm was totally unneccessary.
still remember chris mills blocking the portland bus at oracle and daring anyone to step out. damon telling his teammates mills stays strapped at all times since his zona days :lol:
 
ive said this before just get rid of the clippers or relocate them (seattle).

the nba does not need two teams in LA. it will always be laker land. and no, im not a laker fan.


contract them and let the worst teams have their choice of players.
This could have worked when they sucked, but now that theyre good you cant really move them from the biggest market in basketball. Anywhere else is a step down and what owner would want that for his team?

I also agree that LA doesnt need two teams and want to see them go elsewhere, but have conceded that it wont happen anytime soon.
 
players dont play, advertisers will be PISSED off. the league will be forced to do something drastic.
 
soo.... yall think 29 other owners are going to set the precedent for an owner to be forcibly removed or forced to sell his teams for something other than breaking an actual law? i think they would oppose it simply because it opens up for similar action to be taken on them down the line. they're not approving mob mentality. i don't think they will at least
 
QFT.

I keep hearing people say that this is a owners issue, not a players. Disagreed initially but this is really about the owners.

-prepare for rustling of the jimmies

The owners view this as nothing but modern day slavery. A bunch of high profile racist Jews who stole the identity of a people for the advancement of their financial pursuits.
People are so brainwashed that they are gonna continue slaving on because it's for "themselves" and the people.

Take a look at someone like Marc Cuban whose usually crazy opinionated. On the topic he politely declined to engage in conversation and opted to focus on his own plantation the mavericks and what affected them.

He's Jewish by the way, but you probably couldn't notice cause the name. Many NBA owners, Sterling most notably change their names to try and downplay the connection.

End of rant
You should chill on the anti-semitism.  There are plenty of non-Jewish owners in the NBA, and Jewish-Americans have a long history of supporting the fight for Black Civil Rights in this country.
 
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