2013-2014 NBA Thread - IND @ WAS and OKC @ LAC on ESPN

[jsindaa]

Only two players in the league are averaging 19 pts and 6 asts per game. LeBron and Goran Dragic. Bledsoe is close, 19.5 pts, 6.4 asts and 48.9% FG.

is there more to this stat? Because there are more than 2 players averaging 19 and 6(or more)

 

[puglife]

i think he meant to add while shooting at least 50%

 

[jjs07]

Dude is underrated Imo. His teammates are getting paid huge amounts of money and they aren't performing.

That's a first.

Also, yall really feel bad for Mario Chalmers for getting yelled at?

 

[finallyfamous]

Buying you a sarcasm detector for christmas

I don't think he was being sarcastic.

 

[darthska]

 

[julius wrek]

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Courtney Lee, Brandon Bass and a first round pick (not 2014) will go to Houston for Omer Asik. Deal is close, reports Boston Globe.


Julius F. Wrek

 

[trynafeelmink]

The fact that They have Melo playing all those minutes while still losing like this upsets me

 

[don ramon]

Effort and hard work are not the problem with Carmelo's game. He plays very hard.

IQ is the problem.

i'd like to think that i understand a lot of the criticism of the knicks and their players receive fairly well, but carmelo anthony does not have a low basketball iq. that's just ridiculous. what he does have is terrible support from the coach right on down to his teammates.

i consistently read criticism from you in particular trying to paint a picture of him that isn't accurate. or perhaps you're holding out hope for him to be a player that he isn't. he's not a defender, he's not an enabler, not ball passer, he's not even someone who tells people what do to and how to do it. what he is is a volume scorer who attempts to put the team on his back whenever they come up short, which has been plenty during his time with the knicks in particular and with his previous tenure in denver. that's what he does - he scores. he misses a lot of the time, but he scores more often.

carmelo anthony has low basketball iq? you're way off base

 

[black migo]

I don't think he was being sarcastic.

when i said "but hes fat" i was being sarcastic referring to dudes who always wanna say melo is fat/out of shape/lazy but dude is leading the league in mins & working his *** off even tho the team is terrible, but everything knicks related don ramon turns into charley chase

 

[don ramon]

 

Dude is underrated Imo. His teammates are getting paid huge amounts of money and they aren't performing.

That's a first.

Also, yall really feel bad for Mario Chalmers for getting yelled at?

it's not a matter of feeling sorry for chalmers necessarily, but chalmers has contributed plenty to the heat's wins. i'd go so far as to say that chalmers has done enough to warrant at least a bit of respect for his contributions to the team yet gets overlooked by a lot of people, most notably his own teammates, but fans alike (a good example is the way people perceive him here on this very board).

lebron would never go after most of  his other teammates in that manner, so it's fitting to think that he sees chalmers as some sort of punk or at the very least does not hold the same level of respect or regard toward him as he does his other teammates. yeah heat of the moment and he apologized after, but i don't see that happening with other people on his team

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Damb, Carmelo is underrated? Damb.

 

[jjs07]

Lebron isn't the first or last person to yell at a teammate. We don't know what goes on in practice or behind closed doors. YOU think he doesn't get the respect he deserves based off of an assumption. My opinion is that if Lebron didn't value Chalmers, he wouldn't have apologized. In a league where ego is king, it's as simple as that.

 

[don ramon]

i do think chalmers is an often overlooked and undermentioned player. maybe because of the team he's on? likely

would he be better or worse on a different, less talented team? who knows

 

[black migo]

so i guess d wade didnt have respect for coach spo in the playoffs last year too

 

[100027]

i'd like to think that i understand a lot of the criticism of the knicks and their players receive fairly well, but carmelo anthony does not have a low basketball iq. that's just ridiculous. what he does have is terrible support from the coach right on down to his teammates.

i consistently read criticism from you in particular trying to paint a picture of him that isn't accurate. or perhaps you're holding out hope for him to be a player that he isn't. he's not a defender, he's not an enabler, not ball passer, he's not even someone who tells people what do to and how to do it. what he is is a volume scorer who attempts to put the team on his back whenever they come up short, which has been plenty during his time with the knicks in particular and with his previous tenure in denver. that's what he does - he scores. he misses a lot of the time, but he scores more often.

carmelo anthony has low basketball iq? you're way off base

I didn't say he has a low overall IQ, but he seems to have a limited understanding of the entire offense and his place in it (same goes for the defensive end). He doesn't see the game moving around him when he gets his ISO-vision.

Also, he doesn't seem to understand how to improve as a leader.

Just umbrellaed those things under "IQ". Basically to say that it's certain mental aspects of his game that limit him and create his ceiling.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Chalmers isn't special by any means but he is definitely a suitable point guard if he's your fourth of fifth best starter. It's not that difficult to gauge his value. He's like a Derek fisher lite, if he went to a worse team he wouldn't do much to help their situation

 

[Humbled]

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Courtney Lee, Brandon Bass and a first round pick (not 2014) will go to Houston for Omer Asik. Deal is close, reports Boston Globe.


Julius F. Wrek

:x

Just gave dude away for buns

 

[al3xis]

lebron would never go after most of his other teammates in that manner

Right, he never has. So maybe Chalmers is an agitator? Even Bosh has lost it on him a handful of times.

 

[proshares]

I really thought he was gonna do the Chris Tucker

 

[gothmog]

I know its the cool thing to hate Melo but dude is a ******g horse...leading the league in minutes already, played 55 last night, never misses a game. Dude's legs might turn into straight jell-o by the end of the season.

let them hate , i hope carmelo will leave NY this summer and go to an organised legit tittle contender . u got to respect the 1st/2nd best scorer in the league .

 

[Naruto]

Chalmers isn't special by any means but he is definitely a suitable point guard if he's your fourth of fifth best starter. It's not that difficult to gauge his value. He's like a Derek fisher lite, if he went to a worse team he wouldn't do much to help their situation

he's better than fisher

 

[don ramon]

 

lebron would never go after most of his other teammates in that manner

Right, he never has. So maybe Chalmers is an agitator? Even Bosh has lost it on him a handful of times.

agitator, possibly. at the very least, chalmers doesn't appear to be someone who will just sit there and take anyone trying to talk down to him.

one side would say that he should probably know his role, as he's an expendable player who could get traded to any team quickfast, etc while another side could say that he's a valuable teammate like anyone else on the team, who has contributed to its success

hey i just liked seeing him in a mario outfit

 

[don ramon]

 I didn't say he has a low overall IQ, but he seems to have a limited understanding of the entire offense and his place in it (same goes for the defensive end). He doesn't see the game moving around him when he gets his ISO-vision.

Also, he doesn't seem to understand how to improve as a leader.

Just umbrellaed those things under "IQ". Basically to say that it's certain mental aspects of his game that limit him and create his ceiling.

he's not a leader in the sense that he makes his teammates better, i suppose, but he does try to lead by sheer force (aka scoring) and not being a ***** about it when his attempts fall short and all the criticism comes down on him.

that's not enough to make the team better overall and i understand that, but i really do think that he's the type of player who's lacked complementary support from other players on his team.

he's not a first like lebron, chris paul, paul george, etc, but he's the knicks first man, which says a lot about the ****** knicks organization more than it does about carmelo as a player, i think. his situation in denver was similar

 

[HIM]

bucks commentators are by far the worst in the league 

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Deadre Jordan:

#2 in RPG
#4 in BPG
#1 in FG%

Where's Certified Baller?

 

[black migo]

I never understood this "melo isnt a first option" talk