2013-2014 NBA Thread - IND @ WAS and OKC @ LAC on ESPN

[LIL PRETTY TONE]

Blake stay getting ate on the block. K Love now LMA

 

[sea manup]

 

 

Shaq went to a Finals without Phil.


Kobe won 5 playoff series without Phil


Mike won 3 series without Phil


Phil has one playoff series win without those guys.

melo has won 3 playoff series total

so are you saying that without phil, MJ is melo status? 

So Melo is the same level of players as MJ?

I'm not understanding what you are saying

My point is those 3 great players were great players before and after Phil

hes not on the same level

but he has won as many playoff series without phil as MJ has

 

[mister friendly]

 

 

Shaq went to a Finals without Phil.


Kobe won 5 playoff series without Phil


Mike won 3 series without Phil


Phil has one playoff series win without those guys.

What did pippin do?

Is Pippen in the same breath as those other guys?


But lets go there anyways


Pippen won 2 playoff series without Phil

you know we are talking about the greatest players of all time right?

talkin about 2 playoff series wins like its something to be proud of 

phil wins more than 2 playoff series with his team every year 

Actually that's not true at all, you know that

Like I said without MJ,Kobe or Shaq. Phil has one playoff series win.

 

[datznasty]

LMA has just been at another level this year. He has consistently posted HUGE numbers against good teams this year.

You have to wonder how sustainable an offense reliant on long, contested 2s, and a tremendous volume of 3s and fluke plays is though.

 

[airblaster503]

Super late whistle there

 

[nomadicsole21]

Should of taken the 3 Doc!

 

[mister friendly]

 

 

Shaq went to a Finals without Phil.



Kobe won 5 playoff series without Phil



Mike won 3 series without Phil



Phil has one playoff series win without those guys.

melo has won 3 playoff series total


so are you saying that without phil, MJ is melo status? 

So Melo is the same level of players as MJ?


I'm not understanding what you are saying


My point is those 3 great players were great players before and after Phil

hes not on the same level

but he has won as many playoff series without phil as MJ has

Why are we talking about guys who arent on comparable levels?

Should we start talking about what Dennis Rodman and Robert Horry did without Phil?

 

[nomadicsole21]

You have to wonder how sustainable an offense reliant on long, contested 2s, and a tremendous volume of 3s and fluke plays is though.

It's cringe worthy bro. Not the fluke plays though, we've hit plenty of clutch shots all year.

 

[mister friendly]

Jump shooting teams don't win championships

 

[black migo]

Yall just giving phil too much credit

 

[sea manup]

pat riley has 0 playoff wins without ewing, magic or wade

pop has 0 playoff wins without duncan

red has 0 playoff wins without bill

i guess all these guys are overrated coaches because they dont have any wins without the players they made great 

 

[lynchpin33]

i wonder do players say the same things to violet palmer that they do to a male ref??? always wondered that.

 

[shoeking2101]

Yall just giving phil too much credit

He doesn't get enough credit tbh.

 

[suberzat1]

Kind of wonder how the Pelicans would have been if they would have drafted Lillard 

 

[sea manup]

if lamarcus is going to be taking 26 footers all night he might as well take a step and a half out and shoot 3s

 

[lawdog1]

Hate that we lost, but that was a great game. Good job, Blazers. When Batum hit that 3 to put it in OT, I was worried. Rightfully so.

 

[black migo]

pat riley has 0 playoff wins without ewing, magic or wade

pop has 0 playoff wins without duncan

red has 0 playoff wins without bill


i guess all these guys are overrated coaches because they dont have any wins without the players they made great 

the coaches made the players great, or did they make eachother great, last time i checked the coach isnt running up and down the court

 

[flyeed]

Anyone remember the Lamarcus Aldridge vs Channing Frye thread from years ago

 

[sea manup]

 

pat riley has 0 playoff wins without ewing, magic or wade

pop has 0 playoff wins without duncan

red has 0 playoff wins without bill


i guess all these guys are overrated coaches because they dont have any wins without the players they made great 

the coaches made the players great, or did they make eachother great, last time i checked the coach isnt running up and down the court

so then why do we spend all this time in this thread talking about the shortcomings of kevin mchale, dantoni, mike brown, woodson, del negro, scott brooks and dwane casey

they dont run up and down the court so they're pretty much useless right?

 

[pepperjackchees]

Does Barkley have plastic surgery on his face? He looks like he struggles to smile/ open his mouth 

 

[sea manup]

clippers need JJ back so that CP doesnt need to take 29 shots 

he had a great game but thats not an ideal number of shot attempts for a PG

 

[mister friendly]

pat riley has 0 playoff wins without ewing, magic or wade

pop has 0 playoff wins without duncan

red has 0 playoff wins without bill


i guess all these guys are overrated coaches because they dont have any wins without the players they made great 

My man

You need to do more research before you throw out numbers

Riley went to the Eastern Conference Finals with the Heat without any of those guys you mentioned

Red won to 2 playoff series without Bill

Pop coached one season without Duncan and he also didnt have Robinson either.

 

[dt43]

That was a great game. Tough for the Clippers having to play after a tough game last night, Blazers just had more juice.

The records don't show it, but I feel like these two teams are pretty much on the same level. They can score a lot of points, but neither has that second gear defensively to truly be a contender.

LAC relies waaay too much on Chris Paul. Even with Griffin having 35 points, CP3 singlehandedly created most of his looks. I know Chuck always says it, but you can't have a 5'11 point guard carrying the weight of your team on his shoulders.

 

[dt43]

Kind of wonder how the Pelicans would have been if they would have drafted Lillard 

And pass up on Anthony Davis? They would have been kicking themselves for the next 15 years..

 

[Bert.]

No one was stopping Shaq. Most dominant player ever imo.

yup.

kobe averaged 33.3 7 and 7 on 51.4% shooting in that series where we swept the spurs too :x

but but but Kobe only won titles because of Shaq, he did nothing...