Any Police Officers within the NT world?

I am sick and tired of hearing how it is so dangerous to be a cop and how every cop who dies "was slain in the line of duty" and how it was his "end of watch." The corollary is, invariably, that the police have to shoot first, ask question never and it must always to be that way because of "officer safety."

Contemporary policing methods invite needless risk to officer safety. About half of police officer deaths come from traffic accidents. Many of those traffic accidents are caused by officers routinely driving with no regard for the rules of the road. They drive as if they were drunk, they never signal, they speed, they tailgate people, they make erratic lane changes. If they have to answer a call, they can use their lights and the rest of us will gladly get out of the way. Otherwise, they should drive safety, how the rest of us drive if we don't want to be fined.

The other half of officer deaths are violent but in most cases, it is a result of officers needlessly creating confrontations in the service of the needless war on drugs. If you spend most of their officer man hours trying to stop folks from making a living, some of those folks will eventually try to fight back and protect their investments from state sanctioned theft. These SWAT raids are no more than government run "kick do's" and you should be ready to accept the consequences of storming a building full of heavily armed people.

So in most cases, officers die on the job because they are fighting a war on fellow Americans or they are disobeying the very traffic laws that they are bound to enforce. If officers followed the law and focused on arresting rapist and murderers, there would be very few instances of "officer down."
 
yall are so full of it, you break the law and do whatever the heck you wanna do, and put people through tens and thousands of dollars worth of lawyer fees and court dates , just to have cases thrown out because of some idiot, superiority complex having cop being a bully. that's all you people are is bullies, that's why people don't respect you. smh
 
yall are so full of it, you break the law and do whatever the heck you wanna do, and put people through tens and thousands of dollars worth of lawyer fees and court dates , just to have cases thrown out because of some idiot, superiority complex having cop being a bully. that's all you people are is bullies, that's why people don't respect you. smh
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yall are so full of it, you break the law and do whatever the heck you wanna do, and put people through tens and thousands of dollars worth of lawyer fees and court dates , just to have cases thrown out because of some idiot, superiority complex having cop being a bully. that's all you people are is bullies, that's why people don't respect you. smh
Youre attempting to beat a dead horse here champ.  Glad you got to vent though.
 
If you spend most of their officer man hours trying to stop folks from making a living
Really though...

I like how you make it sound so legal and nonchalant. 
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The drug war is an affront to human, civil and constitutional rights so a police man who gets killed enforcing it is like a killed Red Coat during the Revolutionary war. Their death is a tragedy in human and personal terms but they were soldiers fighting a bad war.

In the past, the police did not make laws so the blame would fall entirely on lawmakers and the public. More recently, the law enforcement community has played more and more active role in law making so when an officer dies serving a drug warrant, his bosses also shoulder some of the blame.
 
The drug war is an affront to human, civil and constitutional rights so a police man who gets killed enforcing it is like a killed Red Coat during the Revolutionary war. Their death is a tragedy in human and personal terms but they were soldiers fighting a bad war.

In the past, the police did not make laws so the blame would fall entirely on lawmakers and the public. More recently, the law enforcement community has played more and more active role in law making so when an officer dies serving a drug warrant, his bosses also shoulder some of the blame.
shhh you're making too much sense....
 
[COLOR=#red]man i work at a juvenile detention center....if ya could see the charges some of these young savages have.....not even surprised by some of the stuff cops have to deal with down the line....


and some of you dudes in here clearly salty....getting made for speeding tickets when u was doing 70 in a 55 zone.....how bout accept some blame fools[/COLOR]
 
The drug war is an affront to human, civil and constitutional rights so a police man who gets killed enforcing it is like a killed Red Coat during the Revolutionary war. Their death is a tragedy in human and personal terms but they were soldiers fighting a bad war.

In the past, the police did not make laws so the blame would fall entirely on lawmakers and the public. More recently, the law enforcement community has played more and more active role in law making so when an officer dies serving a drug warrant, his bosses also shoulder some of the blame.

So cops shouldn't do their jobs and arrest people for drug violations... because it hurts a man's living. :lol:
 
man i work at a juvenile detention center....if ya could see the charges some of these young savages have.....not even surprised by some of the stuff cops have to deal with down the line....


and some of you dudes in here clearly salty....getting made for speeding tickets when u was doing 70 in a 55 zone.....how bout accept some blame fools
Just because they got charged with and plead guilty to said atrocious crimes you speak of doesn't mean they actually committed them with some.  The justice system is great for trumping up charges especially on minorities.  That mixed with a public pretender, and parents that don't know any better equals a child getting railroaded.  From the time I was 15 to 17 I was charged with over 20 felonies, and the only thing they truly had me guilty of was possession of firearms, and minor under the age of 18 in possession of a firearm.  Which is two felonies tops.  Which all turned into DA rejects, and I pent months in a adult federal facility one of those times, because they refused to give me a bond.  The justice system is a joke word to affluenza.
 
man i work at a juvenile detention center....if ya could see the charges some of these young savages have.....not even surprised by some of the stuff cops have to deal with down the line....



and some of you dudes in here clearly salty....getting made for speeding tickets when u was doing 70 in a 55 zone.....how bout accept some blame fools


Just because they got charged with and plead guilty to said atrocious crimes you speak of doesn't mean they actually committed them with some.  The justice system is great for trumping up charges especially on minorities.  That mixed with a public pretender, and parents that don't know any better equals a child getting railroaded.  From the time I was 15 to 17 I was charged with over 20 felonies, and the only thing they truly had me guilty of was possession of firearms, and minor under the age of 18 in possession of a firearm.  Which is two felonies tops.  Which all turned into DA rejects, and I pent months in a adult federal facility one of those times, because they refused to give me a bond.  The justice system is a joke word to affluenza.

So how many were you legit guilty with though?
 
So how many were you legit guilty with though?
possession  of firearms was the only thing they could make stick, but it was a DA reject as well.  Thank God.  But they had me red handed on that, and to make matters worst one was a fully automatic.
 
So in most cases, officers die on the job because they are fighting a war on fellow Americans or they are disobeying the very traffic laws that they are bound to enforce. If officers followed the law and focused on arresting rapist and murderers, there would be very few instances of "officer down."

Yes...because we all know that no murders have ever resulted from illegal drug activity. :smh:
 
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So how many were you legit guilty with though?


possession  of firearms was the only thing they could make stick, but it was a DA reject as well.  Thank God.  But they had me red handed on that, and to make matters worst one was a fully automatic.
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So basically, you had 20 felonies, but Becuz the system could find you without a doubt guilty for one of them, you think they was against you....so out those 20 charges, only one was legit against you, and you just got caught up Becuz they picked u out the blue....hopefully your **** don't get expunged....sound like u deserve it
 
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So basically, you had 20 felonies, but Becuz the system could find you without a doubt guilty for one of them, you think they was against you....so out those 20 charges, only one was legit against you, and you just got caught up Becuz they picked u out the blue....hopefully your **** don't get expunged....sound like u deserve it
What I deserved I didn't get I have 0 felonies on my record.  And where talking two different incidents.  Only one of those incidents involved firearms, but on top of the firearms charge they tried to trump up 8 more felonies that I did not commit or they didn't have evidence on me to charge me with.  The other incident I did nothing wrong at all, and it was the police that created problems where there where non.  That's two incidents with over 20 felony charges that all got thrown out.  One of which incidents I had grounds for a law suite, but my mom didn't know any better or is just a dizzy bitty one of the two.
 
So basically, you had 20 felonies, but Becuz the system could find you without a doubt guilty for one of them, you think they was against you....so out those 20 charges, only one was legit against you, and you just got caught up Becuz they picked u out the blue....hopefully your **** don't get expunged....sound like u deserve it
What I deserved I didn't get I have 0 felonies on my record.  And where talking two different incidents.  Only one of those incidents involved firearms, but on top of the firearms charge they tried to trump up 8 more felonies that I did not commit or they didn't have evidence on me to charge me with.  The other incident I did nothing wrong at all, and it was the police that created problems where there where non.  That's two incidents with over 20 felony charges that all got thrown out.  One of which incidents I had grounds for a law suite, but my mom didn't know any better or is just a dizzy bitty one of the two.

Man my point you made in your first sentence....u got off by technicalities....what I was saying, plenty of dudes out there with charges that got off....but cops looking for u, where there's smoke, there's fire....get out your denial and putting blame on others....plenty of us out here that follow the law that you know as well
 
Man my point you made in your first sentence....u got off by technicalities....what I was saying, plenty of dudes out there with charges that got off....but cops looking for u, where there's smoke, there's fire....get out your denial and putting blame on others....plenty of us out here that follow the law that you know as well
I got off on THE SECOND INCIDENT, because the police tried to trump up a host of charges that I DID NOT COMMIT.  And because of the outlandish claims of law enforcement the DA decided to throw out the entire case due to witness, and law enforcement inconsistencies.  So because they lied so much they had to let me go on what they had me red handed for, because had I gotten a real lawyer he would've been able to twist it, and say whatever to get me off; because according to what was said by them and witnesses that don't even know me is that the police are not being truthful.

In INCIDENT ONE there was no case from jump everybody knew the arresting officer was in the wrong even his super, but they choose to back him; because that's what they do.  He assaulted me, and as a result I defended myself.  I never did or said anything threatening for him to attempt to place me under arrest or to strike me with is baton, but he did it anyway; and then wrote up 11 felony charges on me for defending myself against his unprovoked attack.

Bottom line is some law enforcement officials are lunatics, and most are habitual liars for the sake of their fellow coworker, and some are thieves, and others are lazy bums that don't want to do real police work.  Being a police officer is just like having any other job.  Some take their job seriously and follow all the rules, others cut corners to meet their productivity requirements, and others are just flat out crazies that belong in a mental hospital.  
 
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So cops shouldn't do their jobs and arrest people for drug violations... because it hurts a man's living. :lol:

The police should refuse to enforce drug laws because they violate civil, constitutional and human rights. The police are law enforcement officers, they swear an oath to the Constitution when they take their jobs.

If the police enforce drug laws then they violate the Constitution's laws and that means that all laws are flexible and if all laws are flexible, they can choose what laws they enforce. If they can choose what laws they will enforce, they should focus on violent and property crimes and not the sale, possession and distribution of certain forbidden plants and powders and oils.
 
I really wanted to post something of substance in this thread, but there is so much ignorance and blind hate in here, I'm convinced any contribution I could make, would fall on deaf ears :smh:




I will say this though, it is stupid for someone to have blind hate for ALL police officers solely based off of LIMITED anecdotes and stereotypes and then turn around and complain about officers stereotyping them. That road goes two ways. And I will also say it's humorous and ASININE to imply officers should consciously ignore drug violations, as if drugs aren't the leading cause of the violence you would prefer them to focus on. Ever heard of getting to the root of the problem. Taking dealers off the street DOES affect crime, it's called deterrence....

This coming from a soon to be college graduate with a degree in both Psych and Criminal Justice, also from a bad neighborhood.

But you don't hear me though...
 
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I really wanted to post something of substance in this thread, but there is so much ignorance and blind hate in here, I'm convinced any contribution I could make, would fall on deaf ears :smh:




I will say this though, it is stupid for someone to have blind hate for ALL police officers solely based off of LIMITED anecdotes and stereotypes and then turn around and complain about officers stereotyping them. That road goes two ways. And I will also say it's humorous and ASININE to imply officers should consciously ignore drug violations, as if drugs aren't the leading cause of the violence you would prefer them to focus on. Ever heard of getting to the root of the problem. Taking dealers off the street DOES affect crime, it's called deterrence....

This coming from a soon to be college graduate with a degree in both Psych and Criminal Justice, also from a bad neighborhood.

But you don't hear me though...


If you cannot even see the connection between Drug Prohibition and violence, you do not deserve either of your impending degrees.

Of course, many drug dealers are violent. When you ban a product that is popular, expect a black market to emerge. When a black market emerges, money can be made but those making the money cannot call the police if they get robbed. As a result, folks who make money in the drug trade are businessmen as well as those who use force, private and illegal force, to protect their drug trade.

How many bar owners killed each other last year? How many CVS Pharmacy owners shot up a "rival" CVS? The answer is very few. If cocaine and opium and their derivatives were sold in an orderly and regulated manner, we would see little to no "drug violence" in their neighborhoods, which is to say your own "bad neighborhoods."
 
If you cannot even see the connection between Drug Prohibition and violence, you do not deserve either of your impending degrees.

Of course, many drug dealers are violent. When you ban a product that is popular, expect a black market to emerge. When a black market emerges, money can be made but those making the money cannot call the police if they get robbed. As a result, folks who make money in the drug trade are businessmen as well as those who use force, private and illegal force, to protect their drug trade.

How many bar owners killed each other last year? How many CVS Pharmacy owners shot up a "rival" CVS? The answer is very few. If cocaine and opium and their derivatives were sold in an orderly and regulated manner, we would see little to no "drug violence" in their neighborhoods, which is to say your own "bad neighborhoods."

I'm sorry but if you honestly believe that the solution to inner city violence is to just legalize it all, there is no need in continuing this conversation, as the premise for your argument is absurd to say the least. If the government were to legalize narcotics. the taxes they would inevitably place on it would not only make them MORE unattainable, but would ensure that a black market would exist. Legalizing it would not stop people from selling it on their own, therefore not stopping any of the violence.

Legalizing would also lead to more exposure yo different demographics, and it would become as accessible as cigarrettes or alcohol. College kids would be more inclined to try it because it would be more readily available, just like alcohol. Imagine college students getting older students or friends to buy them a case of beer and some LSD or Cocaine. People who would never have paid any attention to the drug itself would be exposed to them and subsequently "experiment"

The connection between violence and drug prohibition is not a direct causation, as you're implying either, rather an aggravating factor, if you want to talk about that as Well, but I would rather not derail this thread further. I respect your opinion though and will gladly continue this via PMs, if so you desire.
 
haha this thread is so silly.

No one is claiming legalizing drugs would stop all crime... it would put a hugeeee dent n it...

Pretty sure we can call that a fact at this point with what all has transpired in nations who have legalized.

The real issue is the system. Cops r ike ranchands. Pawns jus wrangling up the herd of poor and brown and leading them into the new age slavery fields we call prison.

Its gunna come to a tipping point sooner than later tho. How many more brown ppl will be incarcerated before the public says enough is enough

Land of the free my ***.

The war on drugs :x

If only police would quit infringin upon the rights of us citizens and find real ways to help protect n serve many veryone wouldnt despise them. But naw they spend their time makin drug arrests and creating speed traps SMH

My body is rdy to become an ex pat.
 
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