Working a 9-5 sucks hOW DO PEOPLE DO THIS

gotJz said:
^^^you live in Burtonsville huh? Not far from you.
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Columbia ... i drive to burtonsville park n ride to catch the z bus...

...got there a few mins early yesterday and was shocked to see the other thing left in the burtonsville crossing was the starbucks...i thought all the other stores were occupied
 
DLee23 said:
I'm 22. Have a decent job but will be seeking better once I finish my degree. I get the whole grind for decades thing, but quite frankly, that's some bs too.

The older generation straight lied to us and said if you stay in school you'll be able to do what you want and go where you want.

In retrospect, it is naive and arrogant to think I'm entitled to a certain lifestyle without putting in time in the real world, but nobody said hey parts of your 20s will get monotonous and antisocial while you focus on working hard and amassing wealth. Nobody said hey you might find yourself in a job you do just to earn money but without any personal meaning. No one said all your peers will begin to get trapped into family roles and won't be free to do things with you. I'm pretty sick of the "you youngsters will learn" mentality after being fed the American dream propaganda for the first 20 years of life. You guys could've said that crap from the get go, instead of being mad at us for feeling entitled. My parents are pretty well off, fortunately, and quite often I hear them talk about how they partied and got involved in all kinds of shenanigans and cut school to go to baseball games and the beach etc. They simply didn't have the same pressures to perform and compete against others. But the trade off was when they got in the real world they had to work their way up. Well a lot of this generation gave up on some fun times and adolescent antics to do what was responsible and finish school competitvely and still can't even start where they are. 


PS. all those successful people you want to be like? Beiber been grinding for decades? Zuckerberg been grinding for decades? Lebron been grinding for decades?  Kim K been grinding for decades? NO. These people didn't even get degrees and I'm not supposed to feel entitled. Kanye, the one dude who talks about how hard he had it before getting to where he is, get ridiculed on the daily by most of America. To keep things in context, we are talking about 9-5s. They might have worked hard but it wasn't by jumping through the hoops that people like you told them to. The people I want to be like took a different path that wasn't even explained as an option to me growing up. Now that I know this I have to spend a decade setting myself up to pursue my passion like they did from when they were still in high school. If working a basic 9-5 and "grinding" for 15 years until you're in good shape to retire and have an established family is your idea of living the dream, I hate to know what you guys call nightmares. 

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gotJz said:
Bingo. Had to rep you. It's all BS. It's all brainwashing to believe in the "dream". We're being used like cattle and mules to fuel, perpetuate, and maintain the desires and status quo's of those creating this big game we're all playing. I guarantee you some of these landscapers out here (especially those without papers) work harder than any 9-5 white collared job, but make substantially less. "Oh well they didn't go to school....". Maybe they couldn't afford it. Or maybe they realized accruing that much debt to come out into this current hand situation simply isn't worth it. If we all came together, we could really put an end to all of this though....
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But you know now what you didn't before, so what are you doing differently?

Be the change.... ~Gandhi
 
Evolution Fight said:
may i ask what it is that you do?
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Financial analyst at a DoD agency. I'm taking a 10 course master certificate in federal financial management now which when completed I get 12 credits towards my MBA. Gonna finish up the MBA at Colorado State University picking up some other courses in environmental studies. Working on PMP cert also. Gonna have my resume ready to apply for financial/project management jobs at the National Renewable Energy Lab in Colorado or DC within 3 years when my current pay raise schedule will be capped at $75k. Plan is going good so far. Having a plan for your future is the biggest first step to accomplishing goals. Write goals down it helps.
 
I hate my hours & my company! 6pm - 5am W-Sat. But iv'e learned that not chillin on the weekends gets you more money in your pockets and i aint mad at that! 8)
 
damn some of you dudes work terrible hours i dunno how you guys do it.

im a bodybuilder so that doesnt work for me
 
hennessy hennessy I hate the DoD GS payscale it is so outdated, needs to account for inflation and industry salarys. Starting at 40k kills me makes me want to go the contractor route.
 
BeezyGotSole said:
hennessy hennessy I hate the DoD GS payscale it is so outdated, needs to account for inflation and industry salarys. Starting at 40k kills me makes me want to go the contractor route.
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Yeah the redeeming quality is if you get hired on a step plan. Like I was hired on a 5-7-9-11-12 PD. So every year I get that 10k raise. It sucked starting at 35 out of college. I felt like I could be making more. But the stability, benefits, and them paying for all my training and education and transportation right now makes it worth it.

My job current job is not challenging at all. I'm not a settler and often think about changing jobs but I have the patience to do this for two or three more years since I have that plan to get a bunch of free education and get my grade up I I continue to work for gov or at least I can demand a salary of more than $75k I'll be making somewhere else if I decide to leave.

Some of my friends making more out of college but they haven't got any raises so either despite hard work. At least the government pay scale allows for pretty good progression even though I wish the pay was higher across the board because of inflation and things you listed but oh well.

The contractor route has pros and cons too. I havent ruled that out either. It all seems like a big game after a while.

I eventually want to have my own business and own hours but I plan to do that a little later in life.

Honestly I'm use to the 9-5 by now and don't even mind. My girl works two jobs and works weekends too and makes less than me. She's always stressed out an I'm pretty stress free and have my nights and weekends to enjoy. And these uses working all night shifts in here...couldn't even imagine doing that.
 
I work 9 - 5, 30min lunch... I HATE IT :lol:, but I like my job so it's all good. I hate that my drive to work is at least an hour, I take the 5 fwy to Irvine, ugh, hate it. The drive home is even worse, an hour and a half. I average 2.5 - 3hrs in traffic all day. I wake up at 6:45am and I get back in the house about 6:30pm, I barely have time to do anything. I try to squeeze TV, PS4, Gym, App development and internet and be in bed by midnight. Mon - Fri. I live for the weekends :lol:
 
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Y'all complaining about 9 to 5's are starting to rustle my jimmies

Work 8A-10P tomorrow
 
Comparison Ford said:
Part of me wants to sympathize with you for working a desk job.  There's no way I could sit in front of a computer day in and day out and keep my sanity.

The other part of me would kill to only have to work a 9-5.  I'm in nursing school full-time and I work three 13 hour shifts a week on the days that I'm not at school.  Between doing both, I've had two days to myself since August.  I've seen my best friend 3 times since I started school.  I'm 26 now, and this will most likely continue into my early 30s as I go for my BSN and MSN.  Luckily I love what I'm doing.  If I didn't I would be a complete wreck.

The fact of the matter is you're still young.  When I was your age I had just finished up my first Bachelor's degree and was just realizing that not only was my degree virtually worthless in terms of employment, but that I also hated my major and didn't want to pursue it any further.  If you're not happy with where you're at in life right now I wouldn't lose too much sleep over it.  It's not too late to do some soul-searching and take a different path.

Follow your heart, papi.
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Agreed. Question thought do you live on your ownn
 
youngdoc said:
I love my career choice but let's be real 99% of us would not be in the same field if we hit the powerball
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If I hit the powerball I wouldn't be working period. :lol:

With that said my job is tolerable. Not great, but its not stressing me out and taking years off my life.
 
malikdagoat said:
youngdoc said:
I love my career choice but let's be real 99% of us would not be in the same field if we hit the powerball
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If I hit the powerball I wouldn't be working period. :lol:

With that said my job is tolerable. Not great, but its not stressing me out and taking years off my life.
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After I would get bored with traveling and partying I would eventually "work"

I could see myself wanting to eventually be productive and probably do something with my alma mater or med school
 
youngdoc said:
After I would get bored with traveling and partying I would eventually "work"

I could see myself wanting to eventually be productive and probably do something with my alma mater or med school
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I feel you on that. I meant I wouldn't work a "traditional" job if I ever hit the powerball.
 
youngdoc said:
HAWAII 5O said:
proper english said:
if you enjoy what you do, you can be pulling 9 to 9 and still enjoy the hell out of it..

of course, money plays a factor in it too..
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This.

I love what I do. Worked overtime all my days off this weekend, and not tired one bit.
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I love my career choice but let's be real 99% of us would not be in the same field if we hit the powerball
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Nah... Me and wifey talk about this all the time.

We know how were brought up, I know how poor my family was and how hard my dad worked to make us believe that we were not.

I acknowledge my roots. Money won't change that!
 
Add me to the list of 8:30-5 truly dislike my job but pays ok plus all medical issues covered.
I need to start my business soon I don't think anyone works with worse people than I do. I do laugh a lot though with one of my co-workers, the only saving grace
 
Hennessy said:
Yeah the redeeming quality is if you get hired on a step plan. Like I was hired on a 5-7-9-11-12 PD. So every year I get that 10k raise. It sucked starting at 35 out of college. I felt like I could be making more. But the stability, benefits, and them paying for all my training and education and transportation right now makes it worth it.

My job current job is not challenging at all. I'm not a settler and often think about changing jobs but I have the patience to do this for two or three more years since I have that plan to get a bunch of free education and get my grade up I I continue to work for gov or at least I can demand a salary of more than $75k I'll be making somewhere else if I decide to leave.

The contractor route has pros and cons too. I havent ruled that out either. It all seems like a big game after a while.

I eventually want to have my own business and own hours but I plan to do that a little later in life.
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I'm in a very, very similar boat, except my field is IT/Comp Sci and I actually started out contracting right after school. Don't get me wrong, Contracting is cool and has a lot of benefits, but I actually decided to apply for a Gov't position and do what you're doing. Not on a step plan yet (1 year assignment,) but I'm 90% sure they want me to stay since I've all but replaced the coworker who trained me into the position. :lol:

It does suck making less (gross) now compared to what I was making as a contractor less than 3 months ago, but like you said the benefits really make up for it. There's a very obvious and intentional difference in the way an agency will treat you as a contractor opposed to a full time employee, and with good reason. The hurdles I'd have to jump through for contracting, while manageable, was a lot to juggle on top of everything else a recent grad has to deal with. Had to get my own insurance (thanks Obama :lol: ,) keep track of receipts, mileage, different projects, etc. all the while building and maintaining a brand. Not impossible, but at this stage in my life I kind of just want to show up somewhere, do some work, and be compensated without handling all of the logisitics by myself. :\

I definitely want to work as a contractor in the future, as you really can't beat being your own boss and working on your own schedule. I'd definitely recommend it to anyone who has the skills and work ethic to do it. But not until I use this gov't position to get some qualifications and hopefully a clearance or two. :nerd:

idk why I typed all that.... Maybe I'm just glad to see I'm not the only one going this route. :lol: My friends thought I was crazy for passing up on a nice paying contracting gig.
 
BeezyGotSole said:
[@=http://niketalk.com/u/40580/iWhipMyHeadovv]iWhipMyHeadovv[/@] Congrats :nthat:  if you are getting your TS w/ Poly you are golden even a Secret clearance is good. Process takes 8-12months, I heard its been taking closer to 12months recently. Resume has to be on point with the keywords now a days. I went to the BEYA career fair a few weeks ago and the Northrop Grumman recruiter said I had the best looking resume he had ever seen at a college event.

I can help you with formatting,key words, etc. , I know a good amount about gov.t /gov.t contractors , and clearances also. 
What college did you go to? These VCU kids are landing jobs with 0 experience I didn't think it was possible ,but they are doing it.
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I went to Lincoln Unviversity (small HBCU in PA)

i'll send you a PM with my email bro. i'd appreciatively any insight or guidance you can provide
 
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My take is that humans aren't meant to be slaves for 45 hours a week. It's so mentally torturous. So debilitating.

We know that people end up with bad backs sitting on chairs for that long. We know that people end up depressed doing the same thing for that long.

I feel bad for people who think that is normal. I think if people quit their jobs and started to get creative with their time, they'd be so much happier. Ultimately that's what it's all about.

Start a blog, learn something like baking and advertise it as a service, take up a bar-tending class, etc.

That's my advice.
 
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