Nigeria bans gay marriage, gay meetings -- Does so secretly

Lots of madness goin on in here. Let's be clear:

Jesus was a Jew and DID believe in The Torah, which includes Leviticus. In fact, he was the perfect Jew. meaning he kept all the laws and feast of Yehovah.
That paticulaar verse expresses Yehovah's condemnation of homosexual behavior. The Bible also condemns liars in the same way (lying lips are an abomination unto the Lord Prov12:22). Both are abominations unto the Lord. There actually are other abominations. The Bible does NOT support the murder of those that commit them tho. ... Accoring to scripture we are all called to conform to the law. Its is come as you are, but be transformed.
 
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Rhythm808 said:
Actually it is "Thou shalt not MURDER."


CLEAR CUT: Leviticus 20:13 : "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."


It commands you to do so, therefore it isn't murder.  In the eyes of religion, it is a justified kill. 
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CLEAR CUT
Qur'an (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Tabari 9:69 "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us"

Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 992: - "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah."

So a Muslim can murder your whole family for worshiping the wrong God

Dont worry tho. In the eyes of religion, its a justified kill.
 
Boris said:
 
I'm not arguing that one is equivalent to the other. What I am saying is that this is an example of an abnormal trait, just as homosexuality is abnormal compared to heterosexuality. My point is that humans are filled with abnormal traits and characteristics. 

This quote doesn't state that homosexual individuals are "abnormal beings". Does it take into account other factors that would cause a difference in certain cognitive abilities? What are these cognitive abilities that are different? Is homosexuality undeniably the cause? Please provide the quotations to answer these questions. 
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So you want quotations from a specific study to answer questions that you have hand picked years after the fact?  That would be remarkable if that happened.

If you aren't arguing that one is an equivalent to the other, then it is pointless to make the argument.  The answers for both of the scenarios would be completely irrelevant in comparison to other because they weren't the equivalent.  

Do you consider pedophiles abnormal beings?  Their abnormality is the result of an abnormal amount of white matter in there brain.  Therefore, an abnormal level of white matter makes you abnormal.  Gays also have abnormal amounts of white matter in their brain.  Therefore, they are also abnormal.

The quote I gave you, which you quoted, was in reference to showing that the homosexual population is fundamentally different than the normal, heterosexual population. 
 
cartune said:
CLEAR CUT
Qur'an (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Tabari 9:69 "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us"

Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 992: - "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah."

So a Muslim can murder your whole family for worshiping the wrong God

Dont worry tho. In the eyes of religion, its a justified kill.
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I have already stated that I don't believe gays should be murdered.  I am simply proving that being pro-gay and Christian is impossible. 
 
HTG Designs said:
Lots of madness goin on in here. Let's be clear:

Jesus was a Jew and DID believe in The Torah, which includes Leviticus. In fact, he was the perfect Jew. meaning he kept all the laws and feast of Yehovah.
That paticulaar verse expresses Yehovah's condemnation of homosexual behavior. The Bible also condemns liars in the same way (lying lips are an abomination unto the Lord Prov12:22). Both are abominations unto the Lord. There actually are other abominations. The Bible does NOT support the murder of those that commit them tho. ... Accoring to scripture we are all called to conform to the law. Its is come as you are, but be transformed.
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JohnnyRedStorm said:
thank you for posting this.
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It is still clearly anti-gay.  It is impossible to be Christian AND gay.

Come as you are, but be transformed...meaning live a non-christian life as you come, but be transformed into the perfect christian. This would include the Leviticus quote. 
 
JohnnyRedStorm said:
Don't call him a bigot. He's ignorant and uncomfortable with a way of life he doesn't understand.
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No, I am not ignorant.  An ignorant person is someone who is uninformed, yet still formulates an opinion.  I have formulated an opinion after doing a great amount of research.  I am the opposite of ignorant. 
 
Rhythm808 said:
 It is impossible to be Christian AND gay.


Come as you are, but be transformed...meaning live a non-christian life as you come, but be transformed into the perfect christian. This would include the Leviticus quote. 
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Not true. We are human/ flawed. God knows this. That is why there is a thing called Grace. Where God sees our heart is in the right place, but we make a mistake, or struggle. Repent for our mistake and we are forgiven (even though we may make the same mistake for the rest of our lives). Many Christians know this and abuse it and take it for granted as a reason not to TRY to make life changes. But its there for TRUE followers when they fall short of His glory.
 
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hmm so I am a bigot for basing my opinion on facts and not emotion?
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Yes.

The definition of a bigot is not "someone who is hateful for no reason". It doesn't matter if you have reasons or not. You're still engaging in bigotry.
 
Rhythm808 said:
 
So you want quotations from a specific study to answer questions that you have hand picked years after the fact?  That would be remarkable if that happened.

If you aren't arguing that one is an equivalent to the other, then it is pointless to make the argument.  The answers for both of the scenarios would be completely irrelevant in comparison to other because they weren't the equivalent.  

Do you consider pedophiles abnormal beings?  Their abnormality is the result of an abnormal amount of white matter in there brain.  Therefore, an abnormal level of white matter makes you abnormal.  Gays also have abnormal amounts of white matter in their brain.  Therefore, they are also abnormal.

The quote I gave you, which you quoted, was in reference to showing that the homosexual population is fundamentally different than the normal, heterosexual population. 
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If your kid is born a gay..... your gonna hate your own kid bruh?
 
HTG Designs said:
Not true. We are human/ flawed. God knows this. That is why there is a thing called Grace. Where God sees our heart is in the right place, but we make a mistake, or struggle. Repent for our mistake and we are forgiven. Many christians know this and abuse it and take it for granted as a reason not to TRY to make life changes. But its there for TRUE followers when they fall short of His glory.
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It is true.  It explicitly states to kill someone if they are conduction homosexual activities.  It is clear cut, not up for interpretation.  It states what it states. 

This is only relevant in showing that it is IMPOSSIBLE to be Christian and to be pro-gay.  Being pro-gay means you are going against a direct part of the Christian religion, which Jesus himself believed, and followed.....in your own words.


This isn't relevant for our society though, because we aren't a religious country.  What is more important, is that brain scans have proven that homosexuals have brains that are fundamentally different than that of heterosexuals.  
 
Rhythm808 said:
 
It is true.  It explicitly states to kill someone if they are conduction homosexual activities.  It is clear cut, not up for interpretation.  It states what it states. 

This is only relevant in showing that it is IMPOSSIBLE to be Christian and to be pro-gay.  Being pro-gay means you are going against a direct part of the Christian religion, which Jesus himself believed, and followed.....in your own words.


This isn't relevant for our society though, because we aren't a religious country.  What is more important, is that brain scans have proven that homosexuals have brains that are fundamentally different than that of heterosexuals.  
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You can't be serious..........
 
PLVN said:
Yes.

The definition of a bigot is not "someone who is hateful for no reason". It doesn't matter if you have reasons or not. You're still engaging in bigotry.
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Oh well then.  I am right.  I wont let some fabricated label change my opinion from right to wrong.  That is being a sheep. 
 
you just make up stuff man. you post a few articles and think you're the King. all you do is walk in a circle of ignorance. there is no studying that can be done that says it's ok to judge others and view them as subhuman because of the way they consensually love.

FYI I may be Baptized, but I don't follow organized religion. I'm spiritual and like to believe in LOVE. Maybe one day you can learn to unconditionally love others, despite their flaws.
 
Our morals in this country are based mostly on the christian faith. A lot of what we deem wrong is based on the guidelines we follow from our religion. You must not live in America
 
Rhythm808 said:
it is IMPOSSIBLE to be Christian and to be pro-gay.  Being pro-gay means you are going against a direct part of the Christian religion, which Jesus himself believed, and followed.....in your own words.

This isn't relevant for our society though, because we aren't a religious country.  What is more important, is that brain scans have proven that homosexuals have brains that are fundamentally different than that of heterosexuals.  
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This is a different argument than what you said before. This I agree with. Thats like playing for the Lakers, but openly rooting for the Celtics and not expecting an issue with your coach.
 
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