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Made son abandon his recently reunited family to become a criminal again 
Didn't even tell son the whole truth
Didn't even tell son the whole truth
WELCOME TO THE MARVEL MULTIVERSE -*RIP STAN LEE & Boseman* - XMEN97 release 3/20
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And Tony's out here bringing in untrained children to fight against experienced fighters with no prep time. Then tries to murder for revenge - almost killing his friend in the process. Way too dark.
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They clearly had prep time, as Pete spent the entire conflict with Captain America talking about things Tony had told him about Cap. It directly influenced the way he chose to fight Cap. He also had a brand new costume that couldn't have just been made in a few minutes, one which was tailored for his abilities. Hell Tony had a freaking name that Peter instantly recognized as a signal for him to jump in and specifically get take Cap's shield.
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Mybad 24 hours of prep time
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When you get Peter Parker and Tony Stark together in a room 24 hours is all you need. Imagine if Bruce Banner and Hank Pym had been there. 
**** have Banner meet up with Amadeus Cho and you've got some of the smartest people on the planet.
**** have Banner meet up with Amadeus Cho and you've got some of the smartest people on the planet.
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Steve Rogers: Did he tell you what we're up against?How did they lie to him?They bold faced lied to Ant-Man to get him to fight.Psycho killer assassins.
Scott Lang: Something about some... psycho assassins?
Steve Rogers: We're outside the law on this one, so if you come with us, you're a wanted man.
Scott Lang: Yeah, well, what else is new?
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Legends say that with nothing more than a tin can, two pin cusions, and the loose change in his pocket Batman with 12 hours of prep time could slay Thor.
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Where is the lie?
They bold faced lied to Ant-Man to get him to fight.
How did they lie to him?
Steve Rogers: Did he tell you what we're up against?
Scott Lang: Something about some... psycho assassins?
Steve Rogers: We're outside the law on this one, so if you come with us, you're a wanted man.
Scott Lang: Yeah, well, what else is new?
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Where is the lie?
They bold faced lied to Ant-Man to get him to fight.
How did they lie to him?
Steve Rogers: Did he tell you what we're up against?
Scott Lang: Something about some... psycho assassins?
Steve Rogers: We're outside the law on this one, so if you come with us, you're a wanted man.
Scott Lang: Yeah, well, what else is new?
They making it seem like the airport fight scene was planned on by Team Cap and they lied about it to Ant-man.
That's not the plan. Originally they was at the airport for transport to Serbia to fight the other Winter Soldiers so Psycho Assassins is ACCURATE.
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Its called lying by omission.
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That reach is long
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what did they omit?
that iron man works for the government now?
I mean it's only the biggest news story of the year
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yall are confusing 'working with' for 'working for'.. something steve didn't understand either
tony worked WITH shield
steve worked FOR shield
tony worked WITH shield
steve worked FOR shield
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Suposedly "leaked" Spiderman: Homecoming script
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So asking someone for help without mentioning its illegal isnt lying by omission?
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^^Rogers told Lang they were operating outside the law and would be a wanted man
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Been avoiding this thread like the plague because I've been too busy to get to the theaters and see this. Planned on going this weekend but coworker just handed me a bootleg. Now I still plan on seeing it in theaters this weekend but I don't know if I have the self control to wait with this in my possession 
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Not until he had already traveled to another country and more than likely violated his probation.
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Been avoiding this thread like the plague because I've been too busy to get to the theaters and see this. Planned on going this weekend but coworker just handed me a bootleg. Now I still plan on seeing it in theaters this weekend but I don't know if I have the self control to wait with this in my possession
Oh wait. It'll be worth it.
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Cap asked for his help against the Winter Soldiers, he didnt expect IM to show up at the airport to fight, how is that not clear? And the fact that Pym still fought tells us that Hawkeye informed him completely of the situation.
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yeah he didn't act surprised at all when cap told him it was illegal
also its lang not pym
Pym would have been ready to give tony the hands even without the motivation of being on team cap
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My bad, forgot it was Lang, who by the way is one of my favorite characters in this film. More likeable in this than his solo film.
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Trained for what?
Peter Parker is literally stronger and faster than everybody on Cap's team. Its not like Tony drafted him in to a war or to be his main fighter in some fight to the death. They were taking it easy and planning on arresting 3 dudes.
Steve full well expected to be pursued. He clearly says they're operating illegally and will all be wanted. Steve knew both Tony and Natasha signed the accords. He also knows T'Challa wants Bucky dead.
I said it before but there was some lightening of gravity of the situation along with Lang not thinking it through making the dumb decision.
This implication that old *** Hank Pym has some grudge or issues with Tony Stark is completely made up.yeah he didn't act surprised at all when cap told him it was illegal
also its lang not pym
Pym would have been ready to give tony the hands even without the motivation of being on team cap
Pym told Lang not to trust a Stark based off what happened in the past with him, Howard, and the rest of SHIELD in regards to his Pym particles.
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Either way Steve didnt expect to be ambushed by Stark and his squad and fighting them at the airport, so to say he fooled Lang into fighting them is off base. And it's is extremely likely he was up to date with the entire situation.
