JAY Z Causes Controversy By Wearing Anti-White 5% Medallion

[COLOR=#red]These clown *** rappers openly say what they did to get their fame and money, and these clown *** fans just disregard it as a dope verse

When you carry an energy like diddy or jay-z or dr dre, people around you end up dead or in prison[/COLOR]
 
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Patrick Bateman said:
[COLOR=#red]These clown *** rappers openly say what they did to get their fame and money, and these clown *** fans just disregard it as a dope verse

When you carry an energy like diddy or jay-z, people around you end up dead or in prison[/COLOR]
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When you carry energy like jay or diddy you end up on the top of forbes every year
 
Patrick Bateman said:
[COLOR=#red]You're impressed by **** like that huh? :lol: [/COLOR]:lol:
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Don't really care :lol: I just don't make up reasons to hate or dislike people who are at the top of their profession for no reason at all

You know actually I am impressed by what they've both accomplished and some of the barriers they broke
 
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FlyNY said:
 
Deuce King said:
Do you have any specific examples and evidence to prove this claim champ??
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"my nephew died in the car I bought ,
So under the belief it's partly my fault"

Jay-Z sacrificed his nephew for fame
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It's obvious you didn't understand the context of those lyrics champ, or worse yet choose not to.  Either way, nobody is wasting their time going back and forth with you as you seem to lack common sense on the issue at hand. 

If and when you are mature enough to handle this conversation in an adult manner feel free to chime back in and handle yourself accordingly, I'll even welcome you back with open arms possibly.  Until then, I cast you to the little kids table where the rest of the kids during Thanksgiving eat at.
 
ITT: We demand people act mature when engaging in this convo but then talk about sending people to the kids table...thanksgiving kids table...in APRIL.

Let me guess, this went over my head.
 
How did this even become a who's better debate. They are two different type of rappers. I mess with Jay heavy, but Nas to me has always been a better lyricist. And as far as that chain, he wore it and there's going to be bias about. Does he claim and embrace what it represents, probably not. It could merely be a fashion statement above all
 
Patrick Bateman said:
[COLOR=#red]These clown *** rappers openly say what they did to get their fame and money, and these clown *** fans just disregard it as a dope verse

When you carry an energy like diddy or jay-z or dr dre, people around you end up dead or in prison[/COLOR]
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I've stayed out of this trollfest for a reason but since you usually seem to be logical about things i'll engage.

What is this so called energy your alluding to with all three? some people around them have fell, many around them have risen and are in great shape. How are these guys responsible for destroying someone's life? careers have def fallen under their watch (Mainly Diddy) but don't you think it's a bit irrational do blame another grown man for another man exposing their own weaknesses and insecurities.

Do you also not see all the people who are drawn to those guys you listed and have lived to see ridiculously prosperous days and futures?
 
Y'all notice the same two folks ride for Jay-Z whenever his name is mentioned?

Like clockwork.
 
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tyisny said:
I've stayed out of this trollfest for a reason but since you usually seem to be logical about things i'll engage.

What is this so called energy your alluding to with all three? some people around them have fell, many around them have risen and are in great shape. How are these guys responsible for destroying someone's life? careers have def fallen under their watch (Mainly Diddy) but don't you think it's a bit irrational do blame another grown man for another man exposing their own weaknesses and insecurities.

Do you also not see all the people who are drawn to those guys you listed and have lived to see ridiculously prosperous days and futures?
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Nice Gif. gave way too much credit. Acknowledged
 
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I don't think you can relate it to the same extent as the kkk, since the kkk was actually responsible for the huntings and killings of innocent black individuals. The chain Jay is wearing is a form of expression that is within constitutional rights. Believing one race is superior than another is different than intending to murder those within the race specifically 
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This is so wrong on so many levels.


If this were the case, there wouldn't be affirmative action. 

 
 
WhatCanISay said:
I wouldn't say that. He's doing better than a lot of rappers.

He's just not nearly as good as Jay-Z.

Jay-Z won.

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While the Brooklynite Jay Z was an extremely popular rapper throughout the later 1990s and into the 2000s, and is largely considered one of the best to ever do it, he never innovated rap in any way.  Jay Z’s reason for success was Biggie’s death, and with Nas slipping up in the mid 90s, there was no one for fans to really support, so when Jay Z came to the forefront, all of New York’s rap fans were there to help bring him to glory.  This made his success different than Rakims, Nas’ and Biggie Small’s because they came to be superstars because of their originality and influence on the genre.  That is something that Jay Z simply didn’t do.


 
 
Rhythm808 said:
While the Brooklynite Jay Z was an extremely popular rapper throughout the later 1990s and into the 2000s, and is largely considered one of the best to ever do it, he never innovated rap in any way.  Jay Z’s reason for success was Biggie’s death, and with Nas slipping up in the mid 90s, there was no one for fans to really support, so when Jay Z came to the forefront, all of New York’s rap fans were there to help bring him to glory.  This made his success different than Rakims, Nas’ and Biggie Small’s because they came to be superstars because of their originality and influence on the genre.  That is something that Jay Z simply didn’t do.




 
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Funny article to try and discredit hov, and what's even funnier is that article saying what we've been saying all along right here

" with Nas slipping up in the mid 90s"

So nas came out in 94 and slipped up in the 90's? How does that equal legend?
 
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Rollinwithangel said:
Funny article to try and discredit hov, and what's even funnier is that article saying what we've been saying all along right here

" with Nas slipping up in the mid 90s"

So nas came out in 94 and slipped up in the 90's? How does that equal legend?
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Not an article that is something I wrote for a college class 
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I didn't refer to Nas as a legend but being an innovator takes a lot more skill than someone who benefited from 2 deaths and another rapper being on a hiatus. 
 
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32:30-34:50

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@ "You're good, you should be doing something with that intelligence."

And it's true. With people making up all of these imaginary scenarios and "what ifs", they should be writing books.
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He has no point other than that he was around while Biggie was around....everyone knows that and knows he wasn't even considered top 3 when Biggie was around.  The rest of that is just him not saying anything specific and rambling. 
 
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Not an article that is something I wrote for a college class :lol:


I didn't refer to Nas as a legend but being an innovator takes a lot more skill than someone who benefited from 2 deaths and another rapper being on a hiatus. 
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Them dying didn't blow jay up, hard knock life blew jay up, once he dropped that song it was a wrap, that album elevated his stardom, can I get a, ***** what ***** who, money cash ****, I mean really at that point he could no longer be denied

Jay blew up in 98, if that was the only reason why is he even more popular in 2014?
 
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WhatCanISay said:
Naw, if those 2 planes wouldn't have hit the WTC, New York wouldn't have as much focus on it as it does now. Making Jay-Z irrelevant in 2014.

So, Osama binladen is the reason for Jay-Z's success.
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What did Jay-Z innovate though?  Nothing

It's also a pretty simple concept that once an artist dies and they don't have new music coming out anymore you turn to a new person to get that new music from. 
 
Rollinwithangel said:
Why didn't they turn to nas?
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He wasn't putting out as good of music anymore but his best music was still better than Jay Z's best in the opinion of a lot of people and I personally would give Nas the nod because he innovated rap and Jay-Z didn't innovate anything. 

I don't remember where but when I was writing that paper I read that Nas had a controlling label that limited what he could do on his albums.
 
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What did Jay-Z innovate though?  Nothing


It's also a pretty simple concept that once an artist dies and they don't have new music coming out anymore you turn to a new person to get that new music from. 
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There a million ****** rapping tho.

Why Jay?

Why not Cam, Nore, Pun, Joe, etc.

You act like Jay got his spot by default.
 
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