I brought up my thoughts about the government because they arent doing anything to stop it, if they are in charge of where the funds get distributed and make the laws that jail people and hold people back, and situations arent improving, how much more evidence is needed to show they dont care. They are the very people putting the things in place to forbid growth. They are doing their job to prevent forward movement.
- 29,640
- 39,337
- Joined
- May 25, 2004
Yeah the government doesn't care at all. Someone with a lot of money needs to step up to the plate and start a good program.
- 1,896
- 2,830
- Joined
- Jan 28, 2013
Solution?
Revamp early childhood education. We currently have a generation of kids who aren't being properly parented at home. Teachers need to become the parents. Make the focus of early childhood education values, ethics, and morals. Incorporate being a good person into middle school and through high school, and hopefully this will translate into a new generation of quality adults.
Revamp early childhood education. We currently have a generation of kids who aren't being properly parented at home. Teachers need to become the parents. Make the focus of early childhood education values, ethics, and morals. Incorporate being a good person into middle school and through high school, and hopefully this will translate into a new generation of quality adults.
- 4,819
- 1,049
- Joined
- Aug 29, 2010
Truthfully I'm not sure how the problems in Chicago and many other hoods can be solved. Poverty and crime is a cycle in these communities and that's all kids know and deal with. It's sad but I really don't see any changes happening.
Last edited:
- 22,904
- 26,767
- Joined
- Mar 21, 2010
And i understand that completely, what i am saying is that those benefits & funds MUST be redirected and it's up to the black community to force them into doing so. Now how do we get that done is something i could be possibly pondering for the next 50+ years.
I know Malcolm was one who was under the intentions of trying to create division from the "American Way" but in 2014 that would actually be worse than what the government is doing to us if the correct education isn't represented. We deviate from trying to get government aide cool but that's not going to change the fact that we would still follow government rule & protocol.
I know Malcolm was one who was under the intentions of trying to create division from the "American Way" but in 2014 that would actually be worse than what the government is doing to us if the correct education isn't represented. We deviate from trying to get government aide cool but that's not going to change the fact that we would still follow government rule & protocol.
- 3,398
- 1,612
- Joined
- May 4, 2009
Start with the family home
- 22,904
- 26,767
- Joined
- Mar 21, 2010
[/QUOTE]
http://www.hcz.org/index.php HARLEM CHILDREN ZONE
This is actually a program that goes on in NYC that legitimately embodies what you are saying. I wish there was a way to get these going all across the hoods of America.
http://www.hcz.org/index.php HARLEM CHILDREN ZONE
This is actually a program that goes on in NYC that legitimately embodies what you are saying. I wish there was a way to get these going all across the hoods of America.
- 17,666
- 7,947
- Joined
- Jul 7, 2005
I hear ya, but the issue is that alot of these kids simply don't thing they are committing a "crime" or truly understand the ramifications and consequences of their actions. They consider what they do to be a way of life.
- 9,788
- 4,120
- Joined
- Feb 6, 2011
It's rough out here... My 22nd bday my pops gave me a .22 as a gift, just to be safe.. And HE is a Chicago Police Officer. That little stint of warm weather caused mogs to act nuts.
It ain't even worth it. Whether u involved in gangs or not, it' don't matter, you're at risk. There's no rules no parameters. A 26 year old mom was shot in the head Saturday night at a red light.
But this is true, the real mogs don't honor that Chiraq b.s. Corny, that's all the youngings acting proud of that nick name. View media item 920552
It ain't even worth it. Whether u involved in gangs or not, it' don't matter, you're at risk. There's no rules no parameters. A 26 year old mom was shot in the head Saturday night at a red light.
But this is true, the real mogs don't honor that Chiraq b.s. Corny, that's all the youngings acting proud of that nick name. View media item 920552
Last edited:
Im glad were able to keep this discussion going. Sorry to deviate from the topic a bit, but it just sucks that violence is something so deeply ingrained in the human being in general. Aside from all the other totally messed up issues that happen. I hear and see in alot of places whether big media influenced or just looking at the overall picture that this moment in time is the most peacefull.
ayzee
Banned
- 3,144
- 1,748
- Joined
- Sep 22, 2013
I'd say some can't be held fully culpable because of the strained situations they're in. Lack of nurture and a positive environment = they are not as developed as they should be.
At the same time, many just don't care. They're in hopeless situations and the risk vs. reward assessment isn't as vital to their decision making process.
- 22,904
- 26,767
- Joined
- Mar 21, 2010
I It's almost natural for them to see these things happen. so jail, crimes, violence their desensitized to it. They know that violence & Crime is looked at as "being bad" to people not from that area. But to those they grew up with & those who nurtured them, that's just the way things go. Giving the kids the thought that it's okay to shoot someone or it's no big deal to go to jail.
- 3,127
- 1,403
- Joined
- Jul 30, 2004
It's crazy that their "being bad" definition is killing someone over something they said/rap/looked at wrong/etc. Think about that for a second. It's mind blowing how little life is valued for. Sad man. Real sad.
I agree with the mentioned solution of restructuring of the family dynamic. Problem is that most of these kids have parents that encourage that behavioral dynamic. So you have to educate parents AND the children, which in a lot of cases parents are very stubborn to be told that they have to change. Can't change if the mind isn't ready and the heart isn't open. Uniformity is key; can't have a kid being told right at school and then go home an told wrong, that'll fall apart with the quickness.
fontaine
Banned
- 8,053
- 6,535
- Joined
- Jul 5, 2013
I see where you going...
But I wasn't eem going that far...
Somehow, you gotta make the yambs like the type of guys that aren't killing each other...
I guarantee if that thug steez was preventing them from getting yambs, that **** would cut out so fast.
We're talking teenaged boys... They'll do any damn thing to sniff some yambs...
If you somehow got the young girls to dig a different kind of guy... Then guys would follow suit.
- 22,904
- 26,767
- Joined
- Mar 21, 2010
As small of a detail this may be that actually would uniquely cause change.. But how do you get them to make that change is the difference. It's already happening in rap to an extent, but right now there just aren't a large percentage of teens out there who aren't involved in the streets, not to mention the females are just as involved in the streets im not more (Not meaning shooting & dealing)
- 705
- 263
- Joined
- Mar 4, 2005
Over the years we've had small examples of a younger more destructive generation coming together in rebellion against what we see as injustice.
The 1992 Los Angles riots is one example of that and I know we will have some who will say "All they did was destroy their own communities.." and my response to them is that if that's all you got out of it was that then you really don't understand.Just the Idea of them coming together was a big accomplishment because remember these were nothing more than "The bastards..." of prior generations that carried the torch and somewhere in between that time and the 1970's that flame went out.But it was relight in 1992 and it was something some hadden seen in decades,Angery,young,black & Hispanic people fighting back against injustice,the police who were outnumbered,the system and most importantly those people who benefit from the system being the way it is most.
They burned,looted or as I like to say is that "they took back what was really owed to them anyways",backed up those angry words with actions and it worked because people are still talking about it today as if it happened yesterday.
When established folks,white people start stock piling ammo,guns,putting up for sale signs,taking unnecessary precautions just in case it happens again it was pretty effective.
In no way shape or form am I saying lawlessness is what's needed,that won't solve a single thing especially when it comes to the inner cities across America.But there is nothing that can get people's attention like the fear of violence can(I won't define violence) and as long as we know it's there lurking in the shadows the better off our society probably will be and if not then at least you will be a little bit more nicer to your neighbors,right?cause you just never know.lol
Instead of VL's vs GD's it turns into Democrats & Republicans vs The street gangs of Chicago,that idea alone would shake things up to the core but it would be so necessarly needed.Crazy thing is that was what they were founded on fighting against the system sadly they went astray and I know for a fact that entirely wasn't their own doing.I hope things get better there and less children have to die before things change.
- 2,089
- 87
- Joined
- Jun 20, 2005
So you think "what was owed to them anyways" were those immigrant owned shops that were all looted in Koreatown?
- 22,904
- 26,767
- Joined
- Mar 21, 2010
I agree with the idea of unifying but the riots happened and i can't say any benefit was done to the community L.A after the riots was still infested with gangs & police brutality. The point on violence being a threat, i see why it will always get a point across but again if it causes no immediate change then it's different... Now if a whole community went and stormed DC or NYC in such a manor then maybe issues would be seeked out.
I'm not sold on violence but i'm also doubting peaceful protest because i saw firsthand what happened to occupy Wall St... They might as well have went to Wall st and kicked **** down the way cops treated them and the media manipulated their movement to look like.
I'm not sold on violence but i'm also doubting peaceful protest because i saw firsthand what happened to occupy Wall St... They might as well have went to Wall st and kicked **** down the way cops treated them and the media manipulated their movement to look like.
- 22,925
- 27,563
- Joined
- Aug 14, 2012
LMAO
You my ***** but the yambs got you blinded!
It's about the money which brings the yambs.
These dudes ain't buckin over yambs lol.
- 25,135
- 44,518
- Joined
- Jan 30, 2010
yea you cant bring yambs into this one Fontaine...yambs is a small part of life to them that im sure they enjoy ...but they dont care bout that, they would always have some type of joints in the hood to smash anyway...these lil dudes in Chi aint even killing over money most of the time, its all stuipd **** and gangs ppl dying over
- 40,141
- 11,078
- Joined
- Feb 6, 2011
all of this
victor page
Banned
- 8,734
- 4,047
- Joined
- Jan 14, 2013
You're a ******* weirdo. What's your obsession with comparing every city to NY?
Every damn thread you in you on some "But New York...." ****.
- 1,703
- 1,735
- Joined
- Jan 29, 2007
i can break this down another way without getting too crazy...
studies show that lack of sports which males can show dominance, increase other forms of ways to show dominance...
fighting, arguing, and leading to violence with guns..
neighborhoods that have vast money for sports during after school and summertime have a incredibly low violence to male ratio compared to the hoods that dont
pretty simple, huh?
thats why community leaders beg for sports programs so much... they be knowing.
Last edited:
ayzee
Banned
- 3,144
- 1,748
- Joined
- Sep 22, 2013
I don't really see how anyone can co-sign the LA riots. 53 civilian deaths, 11,000 arrests. Businesses of law abiding people destroyed. Liquor stores looted. There's organized rebellion and then there's the LA riots. The rioters' anger was completely misdirected.
- 6,182
- 1,951
- Joined
- Sep 10, 2009
This is true too
Similar threads
