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dre is a cool *** dude, props to him
 
Tho he will get another chance, ballerific has a point. Other than that rookie season homie has sucked. He's quickly getting the coach killer label, whether skins fans will admit it or not.

He better choose his next destination veeeeery carefully, maybe even ride the pine and learn. Because one more bad breakdown between him and another head coach and it's a wrap.

Whats crazy about this Cam and RGIII feeling to get paid despite recent failures :smh:

Those are two extremely different situations. There is no comparison there other than the fact that they're both black starting QB's who occasionally run.

Yes there is both have had extremely good rookie seasons and have been terrible ever since.
 
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So Griffin should get another chance after having problems with two head coaches and plenty of teammates in such a short career already? 4-14 in his last two seasons and benched at the end of both seasons.
You are too driven by your hatred of particular players. Your judgement is suspect.

Yes he'll get another chance... People remember that the ******** have been a dysfunctional environment for many talented football players.
I'm guilty of this too even though I try to remain objective, but it's funny you said it considering how you feel about Carmelo
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Took the words right from my keyboard. 

I was jusssst about to mention D-Rose, Thibs, Melo, etc. Definitely driven by hatred and judgment is suspect.
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No, there isn't. That's just looking at surface stats and drawing a comparison. What's going on with Washington/RG3 on and off and what's going on with Carolina/Cam on the field and with the roster.
 
i don't get the hate on rg3 for endorsement deals is he not supposed get paid off his image like every other athlete does? should he just hope and pray his fragile body lasts 15 years in the nfl? it's ludicrous some of this hate. let the boy do his thing.
 
I doubt he'll ever be star on the field again he can't stay healthy

He can't stay healthy because he's getting murdered back there. Now that's partly his fault but still. I think he can be a star and here's why....there's a difference in saying a person has "potential" and actually seeing someone perform.

When you SEE it; you know that person has it in them. RG3 has star QB in him...we've seen it. You don't do what he did that first year and just forget how to play all of a sudden. Either through not putting the time in...or injury he's lost some something. I still think he can get it back though.

he's been a good boy all year and Santa still won't give him a real QB

:lol: he's been a good boy his whole CAREER and had a "decent" Matt Schaub one year. Sadly I think Dre will go down as one of the most underrated WRs ever. What's he's done with the QB play he's had is pretty dang remarkable.
 
I feel like he could rejuvenate his career somewhere. Like others have mentioned,I doubt that he just forgot how to play football all of a sudden and is just gonna stay bad. In the right situation with an at least decent O-line, I feel like he could live up more to his potential. Even with all that's happened over the last 2 seasons,it's still too early to write him off at 24. I wouldn't mind seeing him back in Texas with O'Brien in Houston.
 
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i don't get the hate on rg3 for endorsement deals is he not supposed get paid off his image like every other athlete does? should he just hope and pray his fragile body lasts 15 years in the nfl? it's ludicrous some of this hate. let the boy do his thing.

One yr ain't cutting it...Luck been balling and yet he's still low key
 
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I still think his best shots might ultimately be long shots. Philly and if someone decides to pluck Briles and make him a HC.
 
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Tho he will get another chance, ballerific has a point. Other than that rookie season homie has sucked. He's quickly getting the coach killer label, whether skins fans will admit it or not.

He better choose his next destination veeeeery carefully, maybe even ride the pine and learn. Because one more bad breakdown between him and another head coach and it's a wrap.

Whats crazy about this Cam and RGIII feeling to get paid despite recent failures :smh:

RG3 has zero leverage in contract negotiations going forward.

He's got to hope that if he gets PT next year, he can parlay that to a decent payday on a 2nd contract (he's still on his rookie deal thru 2015).

Cam, I just don't know.
 
i don't get the hate on rg3 for endorsement deals is he not supposed get paid off his image like every other athlete does? should he just hope and pray his fragile body lasts 15 years in the nfl? it's ludicrous some of this hate. let the boy do his thing.

One yr ain't cutting it...Luck been balling and yet he's still low key
Luck also isn't injury prone. Let Griffin cook and get paid. Dude could potentially be out of the league in a couple of years, Luck will be here for the next 10. These guys play this game to get paid, heaven forbid they get as many endorsement deals as possible before their time is up.
 
Tho he will get another chance, ballerific has a point. Other than that rookie season homie has sucked. He's quickly getting the coach killer label, whether skins fans will admit it or not.

He better choose his next destination veeeeery carefully, maybe even ride the pine and learn. Because one more bad breakdown between him and another head coach and it's a wrap.

Whats crazy about this Cam and RGIII feeling to get paid despite recent failures :smh:

RG3 has zero leverage in contract negotiations going forward.

He's got to hope that if he gets PT next year, he can parlay that to a decent payday on a 2nd contract (he's still on his rookie deal thru 2015).

Cam, I just don't know.

Knowing the ******** history they'll pay him even tho he ain't going to live up to that contract whenever it happens after 2015
 
i don't get the hate on rg3 for endorsement deals is he not supposed get paid off his image like every other athlete does? should he just hope and pray his fragile body lasts 15 years in the nfl? it's ludicrous some of this hate. let the boy do his thing.

One yr ain't cutting it...Luck been balling and yet he's still low key
Luck also isn't injury prone. Let Griffin cook and get paid. Dude could potentially be out of the league in a couple of years, Luck will be here for the next 10. These guys play this game to get paid, heaven forbid they get as many endorsement deals as possible before their time is up.

True...but your career comes first your achievements b4 the endorsements not the other way round
 
Tho he will get another chance, ballerific has a point. Other than that rookie season homie has sucked. He's quickly getting the coach killer label, whether skins fans will admit it or not.

He better choose his next destination veeeeery carefully, maybe even ride the pine and learn. Because one more bad breakdown between him and another head coach and it's a wrap.

Whats crazy about this Cam and RGIII feeling to get paid despite recent failures :smh:

RG3 has zero leverage in contract negotiations going forward.

He's got to hope that if he gets PT next year, he can parlay that to a decent payday on a 2nd contract (he's still on his rookie deal thru 2015).

Cam, I just don't know.

Knowing the ******** history they'll pay him even tho he ain't going to live up to that contract whenever it happens after 2015

:lol: Skins are dumb, but the RG3 ship has sailed.

Probably the smartest thing they did was take a wait-and-see approach w/ Griffin going into this year.
 
Tho he will get another chance, ballerific has a point. Other than that rookie season homie has sucked. He's quickly getting the coach killer label, whether skins fans will admit it or not.

He better choose his next destination veeeeery carefully, maybe even ride the pine and learn. Because one more bad breakdown between him and another head coach and it's a wrap.

Whats crazy about this Cam and RGIII feeling to get paid despite recent failures :smh:

RG3 has zero leverage in contract negotiations going forward.

He's got to hope that if he gets PT next year, he can parlay that to a decent payday on a 2nd contract (he's still on his rookie deal thru 2015).

Cam, I just don't know.

Knowing the ******** history they'll pay him even tho he ain't going to live up to that contract whenever it happens after 2015

:lol: Skins are dumb, but the RG3 ship has sailed.

Probably the smartest thing they did was take a wait-and-see approach w/ Griffin going into this year.


Lol watch they gonna draft Jameis Winston come draft time in the 1st rd
 
Tho he will get another chance, ballerific has a point. Other than that rookie season homie has sucked. He's quickly getting the coach killer label, whether skins fans will admit it or not.

He better choose his next destination veeeeery carefully, maybe even ride the pine and learn. Because one more bad breakdown between him and another head coach and it's a wrap.

Whats crazy about this Cam and RGIII feeling to get paid despite recent failures :smh:

RG3 has zero leverage in contract negotiations going forward.

He's got to hope that if he gets PT next year, he can parlay that to a decent payday on a 2nd contract (he's still on his rookie deal thru 2015).

Cam, I just don't know.

Knowing the ******** history they'll pay him even tho he ain't going to live up to that contract whenever it happens after 2015

:lol: Skins are dumb, but the RG3 ship has sailed.

Probably the smartest thing they did was take a wait-and-see approach w/ Griffin going into this year.


Lol watch they gonna draft Jameis Winston come draft time in the 1st rd

I can't even argue that :lol:

They should focus their attention on building the O-line and get a beast in that top-5...but we'll probably end up w/ Winston.
 
Geno, EJ and Griffin will all be on new teams or out of the league after this year.

griffin the only one that should get another chance

So Griffin should get another chance after having problems with two head coaches and plenty of teammates in such a short career already? 4-14 in his last two seasons and benched at the end of both seasons.

he's proven that he can at least lead a team to the playoffs. the other two haven't remotely come close to that. and i think he gets a pass with Shannahan who proved to be a moron himself. but we'll see. i still think he can be a good QB in this league.


and for the RG3 haters...i said "good"...not "great" :lol:
 
Yeah RG3 had a great rookie year but people need to let that go. If you don't improve the league will catch up to you. He's injury prone and his confidence ain't the same. Wherever he goes he needs to lay low and work.
 
Wait, I never said he won't get a chance. I just said he's not owed a shot by anyone. The demand won't be there either. Someone said that he deserves a shot, I don't think he does. I think he'll be a backup somewhere next year.

- Problems with two head coaches already.
- Health. Random ankle dislocates in a freakish way.
- Problems with teammates.
- Ego bigger than the team.
- 4-14 in his last two years.
- Poor throwing mechanics and footwork.

What about that list looks like he's a great addition to your team?
 
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