PALESTINIAN GENOCIDE - ISRAELI-TERRORISM AWARENESS THREAD

[sapir7]

Truth isn't ignorant....your roots go back to Europe...Israel military is because of America and without our tax dollars y'all would not be as strong

Exactly. If America was getting their hospitals, schools and random homes blown up by an invading force, they would be ready to drop nukes. Yet you have some idiots defending Israel's actions.

Ask yourself why those schools, hospitals and random homes are getting blown up. You really think the Israeli army would go around blowing **** up for no reason? There are terrorists invading those places, using it as a place to disguise in and do their fighting out of. These people themselves don't give a **** about their own people get that in your head.

 

[sapir7]

Its the extremists on both sides that are the problem yet either one can't live without the other

It's called survival. if we let our guard down well be in a world of trouble, if they let their guard down I promise the Israeli army won't take advantage of that and keep killing. That is the difference

 

[mr marcus]

Truth isn't ignorant....your roots go back to Europe...Israel military is because of America and without our tax dollars y'all would not be as strong

Exactly. If America was getting their hospitals, schools and random homes blown up by an invading force, they would be ready to drop nukes. Yet you have some idiots defending Israel's actions.

Ask yourself why those schools, hospitals and random homes are getting blown up. You really think the Israeli army would go around blowing **** up for no reason? There are terrorists invading those places, using it as a place to disguise in and do their fighting out of. These people themselves don't give a **** about their own people get that in your head.

Well the Zionist movement was a violation....I have no issue with middle eastern Jews...my issue is with the European Jews who only ran back when hitler was flexing only to violate folks just like he did


They literally stole land they wasn't granted...uprooted damn near a million folks

 

[me love nutella]

Let's see your hippie *** go through the same thing, getting shot at and rockets coming your way and you just standing there. I don't give a flying f**k if there are children in the area I'm shooting back to make sure I stay alive. End of story so much ignorance in this thread. Can't believe I was able to actually read this whole thing without punching anyone in the face.

[ b]Frontline Gaza: I'm a Human Being, Not a Human Shield[/b]

By Walaa Ghussein Reporting from Gaza City

July 28, 2014 13:15 BST

No one here is justifying rockets being launched at civilians and nothing to be done about it. Israel has an amazing defence system which intercepts these rockets and protects its civilians from them.

So what is your justification for this high proportionate number of civilians getting killed for rockets which can be intercepted? Where also targeting places which witnesses have repeated no militants were in that target or rockets were not there? Even if rockets were there in that target, why not just keep intercepting them instead of killing off civilians?
However, what is sickening is you completely disregarding the high proportionate of Palestinians getting slaughtered and justifying it. How does innocent civilians being killed justify Israel's inhumane actions of deliberately targeting civilians and with the aim to kill?

The IDF is known for this policy. The U.N, Israeli, Palestinian, and other international rights groups have repeatedly concluded Israel commits war crimes and crimes against humanity deliberately killing civilians.

 

[me love nutella]

If America was going through this same situation all you clowns that want to sound like angels would have a whole different mindset, best believe. And for you who think I'm harsh, it's nothing personal I just say it how it is

STOP WITH THE PROPAGANDA B.S. THAT HOSPITALS SCHOOLS MOSQUES AND OTHER CIVILIAN INFRASTRUCTURE ARE USED BY HAMAS. STOP BEING BRAINWASHED BY ISRAELI MEDIA.

Palestinians have repeatedly claimed as witnesses that they do not recall seeing militants, rockets hidden, or Hamas anywhere near most of these vincities or where they were to aim and kill them deliberately.

DONT GIVE ME THE ROCKETS FOUND IN U.N.
Schools b.s. because that still has to be fully investigated and those schools were vacant.

EVEN IF HAMAS WERE amongst civilians, what gives Israel the right to slaughter them in this manner when these rockets can be intercepted.
FOR A TARGET TO BE A JUSTIFIED MILITARY TARGET, NO CIVILIANS HAVE TO BE AMONGST THAT VICINITY AND IF CIVILIANS ARE PRESENT, THIS CANNOT BE DEEMED A LEGITIMATE MILITARY TARGET UNDER INTERNATIONAL LAW. ANY VIOLATION OF THIS IS A WAR CRIME.

You are justifying and dehumanizing innocent Palestinians by one of the most inhumane and demoralizing armies in the world. The IDF is no different than Hamas, except they are armed to the teeth, are a military superpower and are way way more effective and better at killing innocent civilians.

You have no right to espouse this justification of civilians being killed as international law claims it is unjustifiable. Then you are nothing but a heartless warmonger. Even morality could stand alone not accepting this.

Go live as a Palestinian in Gaza and come back and tell me you wouldn't change or be angry at Israel. ISRAEL ARE THE OCCUPIERS AND THE STRONGER AGGRESSORS. Any violent or nonviolent response to its violence and occupation, whether justified or not, is resistance.

 

[me love nutella]

I dont get it. Israel is fighting against militant Islamists. They might not be Al Queda but they share the same ideology as those who perpatrated 9/11.

Israel was slaughtering Palestinians like this even before Hamas.

Let's not forget Hamas was indirectly funded by Israel in the late 80s to counteract the secular and nationalist Palestinian Liberation Organization. They surely loved Islamist back then huh?

 

[johnnyredstorm]

We live in a sad time where we think murder, destruction and chaos will breed peace. You have nations like Qatar with only 250,000 citizens buying $11 billion worth of weaponry and what not from America
http://www.businessinsider.com/america-sells-patriots-to-qatar-2014-7
Fact of the matter is, there's no money in peace. War makes a select few richer, while eliminating innocent pawns that are viewed as expendable. What's going on in Gaza is sad. We're all human beings, but one group seems to think otherwise. Sad stuff. We're better than this people.

 

[me love nutella]

If it's not too much to ask, why exactly are Saudi Arabia, emirates, Egypt, etc funding Israel even before this war and for this war? Why is it in their interest for Israel to beat Hamas?

Egypt - were allied with Israel since 1979 with the peace treaty between them. Egypt is the second highest recipient of aid from the U.S. after Israel. They keep on good terms with them, keep getting aid and protection as return.
Hamas is also an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. Egypt's current military regime leadership in power is against political Islamists in its ranks or to replace them as leaders of Egypt. Muslim Brotherhood has been fighting the secular military leadership since the 1920s. One of their members assassinated Anwar Sadat, back then military leader and head of state of Egypt, for signing a peace treaty with Israel. So Hamas allied with Muslim Brotherhood is seen as evil AND helping the MB prevail.

Jordan - has had open relations and diplomatic ties with Israel from decades ago. Palestinians and the Jordanian monarchy in power have had bad relations. Palestinians killed the current leader's grandfather when he was in power because he conspired with Zionists to give statehood to Jews. They saw him as a traitor to Arabs. At one point, the PLO tried to take over Jordan and King Hussein (the son of the assassinated figure who conspired with Israel - current king of Jordan is son of king Hussein so it was his grandfather who was assassinated). Morons. The result was bloody and they were crushed. Also read about the events of Black September.

Saudi Arabia - despise Hamas because they do not like or want any other political Islamists or fundamentalists rivaling their power and interests in the region and not to rival their branch of Islamic fundamentalism, Wahhabism. Saudi Arabia also hate Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and hate the Shiite Islamists like Hezbollah in Lebanon, Iran and Alawites (offshoot of Shiite Islam) regime in power in Syria which used to be allied with Hamas. Saudi Arabia also hate Muslim Brotherhood who are allied with Hamas. These groups go against their interests in the region and threaten Saudi Arabia's influence and power.
Emirates also hate Hamas. Other gulf countries do too, except Qatar.same reasons as Saudi Arabia.
Qatar - they despise Saudi Arabia so they fund Hamas

Not all Islamists are one in the same and some are rivals (Saudi Arabian Wahhabism vs. shiite fundamentalists, Hamas and Muslim Brotherhood). All have different allies and interests. Saudi Arabia also hates Al Qaeda and vice a versa. But Saudi Arabia has been funding ISIS in Syria and Iraq to fight the Shiite fundamentalists and moderate ones too inin Syria and Iraq.

Lets not forget that Hamas' relationship soured with iran, Hezbollah and Syria because Hamas refused to support Syria ( Hamas are Sunni Muslims and they couldn't support the fight against Sunnis by the Alawite regime.

So with the borders closed and Egypt stopping the flow of Qatar funds, Hamas finally unites with the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank and that made Israel go crazy. That was the main reason for Israel to pummel Gaza. To break the unity government between Hamas and the PA.



Is this a good explanation?

 

[jab step]

Egypt - were allied with Israel since 1979 with the peace treaty between them. Egypt is the second highest recipient of aid from the U.S. after Israel. They keep on good terms with them, keep getting aid and protection as return.
Hamas is also an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. Egypt's current military regime leadership in power is against political Islamists in its ranks or to replace them as leaders of Egypt. Muslim Brotherhood has been fighting the secular military leadership since the 1920s. One of their members assassinated Anwar Sadat, back then military leader and head of state of Egypt, for signing a peace treaty with Israel. So Hamas allied with Muslim Brotherhood is seen as evil AND helping the MB prevail.

Jordan - has had open relations and diplomatic ties with Israel from decades ago. Palestinians and the Jordanian monarchy in power have had bad relations. Palestinians killed the current leader's grandfather when he was in power because he conspired with Zionists to give statehood to Jews. They saw him as a traitor to Arabs. At one point, the PLO tried to take over Jordan and King Hussein (the son of the assassinated figure who conspired with Israel - current king of Jordan is son of king Hussein so it was his grandfather who was assassinated). Morons. The result was bloody and they were crushed. Also read about the events of Black September.

Saudi Arabia - despise Hamas because they do not like or want any other political Islamists or fundamentalists rivaling their power and interests in the region and not to rival their branch of Islamic fundamentalism, Wahhabism. Saudi Arabia also hate Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and hate the Shiite Islamists like Hezbollah in Lebanon, Iran and Alawites (offshoot of Shiite Islam) regime in power in Syria which used to be allied with Hamas. Saudi Arabia also hate Muslim Brotherhood who are allied with Hamas. These groups go against their interests in the region and threaten Saudi Arabia's influence and power.
Emirates also hate Hamas. Other gulf countries do too, except Qatar.same reasons as Saudi Arabia.
Qatar - they despise Saudi Arabia so they fund Hamas

Not all Islamists are one in the same and some are rivals (Saudi Arabian Wahhabism vs. shiite fundamentalists, Hamas and Muslim Brotherhood). All have different allies and interests. Saudi Arabia also hates Al Qaeda and vice a versa. But Saudi Arabia has been funding ISIS in Syria and Iraq to fight the Shiite fundamentalists and moderate ones too inin Syria and Iraq.

Lets not forget that Hamas' relationship soured with iran, Hezbollah and Syria because Hamas refused to support Syria ( Hamas are Sunni Muslims and they couldn't support the fight against Sunnis by the Alawite regime.

So with the borders closed and Egypt stopping the flow of Qatar funds, Hamas finally unites with the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank and that made Israel go crazy. That was the main reason for Israel to pummel Gaza. To break the unity government between Hamas and the PA.



Is this a good explanation?

Yup, thank you for this. Appreciate the explanation. It's interesting to realize the different factions even within the religions of the book. Different interpretations I assume. 

Anyway, how is this all going to end. I don't see it happening unfortunately. America as a superpower has the ability to ease the situation, but they won't 

 

[taj gibson]

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You make me laugh, I lived in Israel for 10 years and seen first hand how things happen. There are many Arabs living inside Israel that work and even live alongside the jews, we have no problem with them. But these people were talking about here are very different, they don't want peace and will never change their ways and the same thing for their children they're taught hatred to all at a very early age. For this reason I don't feel bad one ******* bit, they think they can cause terror and blow themselves up and innocent people as well who aren't even in a war zone and they become celebs in their towns for it. Their families show their pictures proudly and speak so highly of their suicide bombing children. Does that sound normal to you? Get the **** out of here you're brain washed by the media and have no idea what's really going on. Israel doesn't pick the fight and that's a fact, we're gonna protect out country at all cost no matter what outsiders like you think

So you're justifying the death of innocent women and children with the terror that was caused by their compatriots which in fact was provoked by chronic transgressions of settlement agreements by Israel? Also why is it wrong for us to feel compassion for Gaza victims while your country paraded around the deaths of three teenagers in order to gain public opinion and provoke this conflict?

 

[addy85]

Ask yourself why those schools, hospitals and random homes are getting blown up. You really think the Israeli army would go around blowing **** up for no reason? There are terrorists invading those places, using it as a place to disguise in and do their fighting out of. These people themselves don't give a **** about their own people get that in your head.

Actually yes, they do blow up random homes and hospitals and schools just like they shoot and kill random people and blow up random people etc. 

Don't talk about being brain washed when it's clearly evident who's brain washed here.

If everything Israel is saying is true than why not let the UN come in and investigate on their own? Why willingly kill the press documenting what's happening in Gaza? Why deny the press from entering?

 

[ronsweedroom]

so the answer is to fight terrorism with terrorism. Ok.

Mexicans, Native Americans, and Blacks haven't played the "eye for an eye" game, but the Jews? Hell, in the name of fighting "terrorism". riiiiiiight.

 

[360waves]

I pray the innocent people on both sides find peace.

 

[oneilmatt]

If Israel doesnt fight back they get destroyed. Simple. They arent just going to turn the other cheek and let Hamas terrorize them. The only way peace will happen is if Hamas wants it. But they dont.

 

[ronsweedroom]

If Israel doesnt fight back they get destroyed. Simple. They arent just going to turn the other cheek and let Hamas terrorize them. The only way peace will happen is if Hamas wants it. But they dont.

shut up.

Bullies are always the victim when the bullied fight back.

 

[wr]

If Israel doesnt fight back they get destroyed. Simple. They arent just going to turn the other cheek and let Hamas terrorize them. The only way peace will happen is if Hamas wants it. But they dont.

I guess the turning of cheeks is exclusively reserved for Christianized brown ppl.

 

[oneilmatt]

What does that have to do with this? Thanks anyway I guess.

 

[leavemeglazzies]

The civilized Democratic state of Israel minimizing the casualties of Palestinian civilians to set an example to the savage terrorist Mooslim A-rabs still living in the stone age of how to be civilized:

 

[iamjusayn]

Smh!

 

[oneilmatt]

Im sure thats real take your blinders off. Nobody talks like that. Clear fake.

 

[duba169]

Some of you are ridiculously easy to manipulate.

 

[addy85]

Im sure thats real

take your blinders off. Nobody talks like that. Clear fake.

I hope for the sake of humanity that you're right,

 

[Animal Thug]

That comment/page is 110% real. I went on that IG page before IG took the whole page down, and seen it for myself.

 

[leavemeglazzies]

Some of you are ridiculously easy to manipulate.

The irony....

 

[copped]

forget the religious part of it all and take it as interesting perspectives:





he has many more videos on his page, very articulate and not really far fetched....most points have already been discussed here...


so much **** going on right now in the world its hard to keep up with it all...but should try our best to educate ourselves of the truth or else we are part of the problem.





here is one he talks about the use of music and entertainment as a mean to dumb down the population and keep people blind folded: