QB THREAD - 2x quarterbacky award winner: Lamar Jackson

[dland24]

 

Whut ? Falcons were 1 game from the super bowl what the **** are you talking bout ? Stick to hanging division banners in the rafters

So......they won ONE playoff game that year.  Sweet.

 

[herbshuttles15]

1-4

 

[chevellerollin]

So......they won ONE playoff game that year.  Sweet.

Sweet you can count...

When you go 13-3 all you need is 2 to make it to the big dance ...he said s deep playoff run...one game away from the bowl is deep..

 

[dland24]

So......they won ONE playoff game that year.  Sweet.

Sweet you can count...

When you go 13-3 all you need is 2 to make it to the big dance ...he said s deep playoff run...one game away from the bowl is deep..

If that makes you feel better about yourself and your team, who am I to say that winning one playoff game isnt a "deep playoff run?"

 

[T0INE]

 

[chevellerollin]

If that makes you feel better about yourself and your team, who am I to say that winning one playoff game isnt a "deep playoff run?"

Well ..you would sound ******* stupid considering they made it to the conference championship game which is ONE game from the bowl...I mean unless it's another game to be played after that that's not the super bowl... you're missing the point because you want to push your ******* ****** agenda

 

[dland24]

If that makes you feel better about yourself and your team, who am I to say that winning one playoff game isnt a "deep playoff run?"

Well ..you would sound ******* stupid considering they made it to the conference championship game which is ONE game from the bowl...I mean unless it's another game to be played after that that's not the super bowl... you're missing the point because you want to push your ******* ****** agenda

What is this ******ed agenda I am pushing?  Please explain.  

 

[DeadsetAce]

 

[CP1708]

I'm telling you, Eli baffles me. He looked putrid week one, and has looked really good since. Can't figure this guy out.

NE played great, but I still saw shaky throws from Brady.

Logan Thomas out here throwin accidental laser beams.

Remember when I was crazy for saying Jets should be looking QB in the draft? Oh, I remembers. I remembers well.

Romo looks good. Keep it up.

Foles gotta stop with the lob heaves. Serious, that is dumb quarterbacking. Gonna catch up to him if he keeps it up.

Speaking of lob heaves, this is interesting, Phil Rivers is unfreaking real with his accuracy on those throws. Blitzed, falling backwards, lob middle of the field, literally, right on Royal's hands. Half roll out, Gates to the corner, off balance, under pressure, lets it go, right on both palms. Accurate as ****. Rivers is the MVP thru a month.

Peyton torched Arizona's D. That's interesting. Got more weapons than a SWAT team, but still impressive.

Andrew 300+ on Baltimore. If not for that crush he took on the Ngata pick, even better day it woulda been. If they could trade his college teammate Fleener, for his other college teammate Ertz, **** wouldn't even be fair.

Much as I love Calvin, kinda want him to sit a couple weeks so I can look at Stafford. Today Tate was making tremendous plays that padded Stafford's numbers, otherwise he looked below average. By now, he should be pretty good with or without Calvin. They need to get Ebron going as part of that.

 

[champcruthik]

Not that Eli hasn't been inconsistent over his career, but this season's slow start could be chalked up to an adjustment period to McAdoo's vastly different offensive system. Plus OBJ's debut helps because Jernigan went down and Randle is not a #2, we've learned.

 

[SneakerProSr.]

CP do you actually rewatch the full games or just the highlights?

Not even trying to argue I'm just curious.

 

[champcruthik]

CP do you actually rewatch the full games or just the highlights?

Not even trying to argue I'm just curious.

Kudos, just like Larry Warford, you were right about Darius Slay. I was wrong for calling him average or mediocre, he's underrated like Chris Harris.

 

[SneakerProSr.]

Eli is what Eli is.

One week great games

One week terrible games

What does that equal? Average.

I'm to the point to where I hope Stafford is just a little above average.

Like Eli and Flacco are above average QB's with the talent to make playoff throws.

I want the LIons to be in a position to where we don't emmm ask Stafford to be elite. Just be steady enough not to lose us a game and make plays when need be.

Might finally have the squad but no one can stay healthy and we need a kicker.

Stafford may flourish and play up to talent but at a certain point you are what you are. As long as he wears a LIons' jersey I'm support him but I'm giving up elite I just want decent.

 

[Hahahaha]

Eli has been good in four games this season. One bad game and that was against a Lions D line that was in the backfield every play. Our O line has been giving Eli plenty of time and it shows in the last four games.

 

[mez 0ne]

Eli is a very good QB who elevates his game come playoff time.

When he has protection he can make the plays necessary to win, if the protection isn't there he'll force the issue and make mistakes since he isn't mobile. It's pretty simple.

He played poorly vs a tough Lions defense with a new offense that wasn't even in sync yet. They moved the ball rather easily vs the Cardinals, they lost because of fumbles/special teams/drops. The offense is still in a learning curve.

 

[CP1708]

CP do you actually rewatch the full games or just the highlights?

Not even trying to argue I'm just curious.

All depends on the weeks schedule.

First and foremost, of course, I watch my Dolphins game. During commercials/halftime, I can of course jump around to whatever game is on that isn’t at commercial and get what I can there.

If something big is on during my game, for instance, the Seattle/Denver game a couple weeks ago, I DVR that game while I watch mine. I still check into it live while my game is on, but then after the 1 O’clock games, I plow thru it before the Sunday night game. The parts that I saw live, I fast forward thru since I had already seen them.

Games that are on when Miami isn’t playing, I just switch thru drives/quarters depending on what’s happening. For yesterday (bye week) I watched almost every Colts drive, but watched literally 2-3 plays at most when Baltimore had the ball. I didn’t check in once on Tenn/Clev. I watched a couple Cam drives, but didn’t see a single Cutler drive. I watched a lot of the Eagles drives, but almost nothing of Austin Davis since they can’t figure out how to get the ball to Tavon to save my life. Then I watched as much as I could of the Det/Buff-Dal/Hou games and occasionally checked in on the Saints, til I heard Graham went down, at that point I didn’t check on Brees anymore. My brother in law was downstairs watchin the Falcons/Giants game, so when he’d be yelling I would check in real quick to see what the deal was. In the afternoon, I watched most of the Den/Ari game, but when the Cards had the ball, I found myself checkin in a lot on SD/NYJ. When both were on commercial, I went to KC/SF.

When NFL network does their replays/cut ups, I try to watch any of those that I didn’t see live. (if they do Tenn/Clev, that would be a good one for me to check out since it turned into a tremendous game/finish)

Over a season, I’ll end up with a few games on DVR, Den-NE, Indy-NE/Den, Philly-Dallas (wife is Dallas fan), GB-Sea, GB-NO, etc etc. Big games that I might want to go back to.

Only highlights I really watch would be after the Sunday night game, maybe like on NFLN or something. Since ESPN is a dump now. But that's not more than a glance or two while I start looking thru fantasy stats, next week games, notebooks, etc. More background noise than anything, minus a game or two I didn't check into much.

On top of all that, I have my Twitter set up to follow a ton of good NFL guys I know that cover certain teams/areas and I go thru what they say while I am watching all that. A guy I used to work with now covers the Bears, so I get all kinds of Bear stuff from him. Another guy I know does a lot of RedZone stuff, following all kinds of scoring drives, then others just tweet random division stuff (for me mostly, AFC East). So when I was watching Den/Ari, and I see them all tweeting that Geno is getting benched, I switched over quick to get a look. (Arizona had the ball, I wouldn’t switch over Peyton) Vick never had a chance out there, and still is probably better than Geno.


Like I’ve said for years, Directv and the NFL own my ***. I just hope they don’t realize it enough to raise my prices up double or triple or some **** I do everything I need to do Monday thru Saturday, specifically for my Sunday’s to be clean and clear NFL days. I get one single day per week that I don’t have to do anything I don’t want to, except watch the NFL. And it’s glorious. Of course, it helps to have a wife that also watches football and doesn’t get as angry with me as some other wives do with their husbands.

 

[elpablo21]

[h1]It Took 36 Browns QBs 28 Seasons To Match Peyton Manning's 500 TDs[/h1]

[h1]IT TOOK 36 BROWNS QBS 28 SEASONS TO MATCH PEYTON MANNING'S 500 TDS[/h1]

Brian Hoyer (; Jason Campbell (11); Brandon Weeden (23); Spencer Lanning (1); Thaddeus Lewis (1); Colt McCoy (21); Seneca Wallace (6); Mohamed Massaquoi (1); Jake Delhomme (2); Derek Anderson (46); Brady Quinn (10); Charlie Frye (14); Trent Dilfer(11); Kelly Holcomb (26); Luke McCown (4); Jeff Garcia (10); Tim Couch (64); Kevin Johnson (1); Doug Pederson (2); Ty Detmer (4);Vinny Testaverde (47); Eric Zeier (4); Mark Rypien (4); Todd Philcox (7); Bernie Kosar (116); Mike Tomczak (7); Brian Hansen (1);Mike Pagel (7); Eric Metcalf (1); Don Strock (6); Gary Danielson (12); Jeff Christensen (1); Herman Fontenot (1); Brian Brennan (1);Paul McDonald (14); Brian Sipe (5)

Four franchises still aren't even to 400, including the Panthers and Jaguars, which began play three years before Manning was drafted.

http://deadspin.com/it-took-36-browns-qbs-31-years-to-match-peyton-mannings-1642984489

http://www.footballperspective.com/500-touchdown-passes/

I'm more shocked Brandon Weeden had thrown 23 touchdowns

 

[a55a5in11]

Man i thought Derek Anderson and Braylon Edwards would be a great tandem for years

 

[CP1708]

Andrew Luck was 8-of-9 for 129 yards in the fourth quarter Sunday, including 4-of-4 for 107 yards on throws at least 15 yards downfield. Luck's playing as well as anyone.

The Jets' longest completion traveled 8 yards downfield, with Michael Vick and Geno Smith combining for a 0-for-9 performance on throws deeper than 10 yards downfield.

Jay Cutler went 1-of-5 with both interceptions on passes at least 15 yards downfield Sunday. Cutler's 23.3 completion percentage on those throws is second lowest in the league.

Matt Ryan was 2-of-8 for 44 yards and an interception Sunday on throws at least 15 yards downfield. Ryan's thrown at least one interception in all three road games (0-3 record).

It's working. Eli's average throw is 7.6 yards downfield, almost 2 yards shorter than 2013, and the Giants have twice as many touchdowns (16) as turnovers (eight).

 

[pacificnorsewst]

- Matt Ryan frustrates me. He's got it in him. I know it.

- Without that what, 3 to 4 years of mediocrity from Rivers, how differently would we view him? He's back to the level he was before then when he was fring elite.

- Is Kaepernick improving enough or at all? The flashes are always there, but what's going to happen if/when the Niners defense isn't what it is? And ultimately, when Kaep loses some arm strength.

- Vick is done. He still has more than enough talent, but mentally. He just looked like he preferred riding pine and had no interest in being out there.

- Bortles needs to cut back on the turnovers. Jedd Fisch needs to tone it down. They first were content on letting him learn on the sidelines all year, but now that he's in, they're letting it rip. Volume passing isn't going to help him learn anything if he's prone to making mistakes. If they want him to develop the right way then they need to be patient. Toby is a bum, but they can't abandon the look of the run. Ineffective or not.

Guys I like, but don't know enought about them yet:

- Cousins. Threw some beautiful passes, but he's obviously not consistent enough for me to trust as the quarterback of a Super Bowl caliber team.

- Hoyer. He's got this flare about him. He just turns on that "spark" and even though he doesn't become a lights out passer, he just gets it done. Another consistency issue, but he's intriguing. As of now, he's got the look of that journey QB that you want as your #2 behind a rookie or very young Q.

Guys I don't like right now:

- Locker. I love the skillset, but big whoop. Not only can he not stay healthy, but he gives one great game for every 4 bad ones. An average game mixed in.

- Matt Stafford. Lions fans might be right...Calvin on the bench may actually help Stafford. This dude just cannot seem to breakthrough. And just when you think he does...Tunnel vision to Johnson all game and then mistakes.

Rookie watch:

- Teddy, for sure. Homer angle, but also because he looked really good. Lions defensive line will be a great test.

- Mettenberger. He needs to get in there. It's just about his time. If it wasn't Teddy going to Minnesota, Mettenberger was one of my next hopes. I want to see what he can do. Titans can be a playoff football team if they get the right Q and the running game gets something going.

 

[keel252]

Nothing on Cam huh?

I say it all the time, the most disrespected and underrated QB in the league.

 

[champcruthik]

I just want to confess that I'm ready to be wrong about Russell Wilson. I fell into the trap of labeling him a potential "game manager." Yes, he benefits from an elite defense and top-notch run game. But his decision-making appears to me of a higher level than Kaep, RG3, and Luck. Kaep is my favorite player in the NFL, but he trusts his arm almost too much. Attempting to rifle the ball into tight windows that are not ideal for OC or HC. RG3 isn't wise about protecting his body, in terms of leaving the pocket and scrambling. Luck really needs to cut down on the INT, that aspect of his game is lagging at this point in 2014. My projection in 2012 was: Luck, Kaep, RG3, Russy. Seems like I couldn't be more wrong. Time will tell.

 

[pacificnorsewst]

Nothing on Cam huh?

I say it all the time, the most disrespected and underrated QB in the league.

How'd he play on Sunday? I didn't mention some because I didn't watch the majority of those games, but I do remember seeing posts that he was taking over.

 

[champcruthik]

How'd he play on Sunday? I didn't mention some because I didn't watch the majority of those games, but I do remember seeing posts that he was taking over.

I know keel252 and I disagree, but can't wait to see Carolina obtain another WR in the next draft class to complement KB and Olsen. Would do Cam wonders, I feel the lack of supporting cast actually works to Newton's favor in defending him. Imagine Smitty, Benjamin, and Olsen working for the Panthers offensively.

 

[CP1708]

Luck really needs to cut down on the INT

2.3 INT % in 1,400+ attempts.

2.2 INT % in 900+ attempts.



Someday, someone is going to explain this **** to me.