Official 2015 New York Giants Thread VOL: Odell Beckham > *

Also, I'm not giving Eli a pass. He's had some really bad spots but I'm still confident in his ability to lead us and to win. However, we have to start planning for the future. Would not be mad if we start grooming a replacement.
 
That's why Ryan Nassib is here, the did address a lot of issues in the off-season however. This patchwork offensive line is no bueno, we were spoiled the last decade with the core of guys we had.

and to be fair, Brown had missed a whole year, DRC is new here and made a mistake here and there (granted its Megatron), and Jacquian Williams looked complete lost which was surprising considering how good he's looked lately.

Beason, JPP, the DT's, Rolle and ESPECIALLY Prince looked good out there once the dust settled. It's about gaining trust with the new unit

We'll know what this team is after a month.
 
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Mez 0ne said:
This patchwork offensive line is no bueno, we were spoiled the last decade with the core of guys we had.

 
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Yeah man. At one point in the 4th we had a max protect on, they rushed just 4 and it STILL looked like a damn jailbreak. Could only smh.
 
We're also really lacking play makers or game changers on offense, just really isn't good enough to beat top tier teams imo.

I'll have to see it to believe it.
 
Throw us the damn ball! Victor Cruz says for NY Giants to succeed, Eli Manning needs to get ball to him and Rueben Randle

BY EBENEZER SAMUEL

Victor Cruz said in the offseason that he was excited by the Giants’ new offense, and thought he could catch 90-100 passes. He was singing a different tune after Monday night’s 35-14 loss to the Lions.

Victor Cruz has a simple solution to fix the Giants’ stagnant offense: Get him the damn ball.

“I think in order for us to be successful, there needs to be an increased number of targets in my direction,” Cruz said Tuesday. “And in other playmakers’ directions. Just like Rueben Randle as well, in my opinion. But that all comes with the continuity, that comes with getting the running game going, that comes with building what we want to build as the game continues.”

It was exactly what didn’t happen on Monday night in the Giants’ season-opening blowout loss to the Lions in Detroit. And you can add it to the list of things that need serious repairs in new offensive coordinator Ben McAdoo’s limping West Coast attack.

The Giants couldn’t keep Eli Manning safe from the Lions’ fierce pass rush, they couldn’t run the ball effectively, and somehow, they couldn’t get the ball into the hands of their two best receivers. Cruz and Randle, who is being counted on to replace the departed Hakeem Nicks, combined to make four catches for 25 yards against a supposedly weak Lions secondary, and for some reason, Manning spent much of the game locked onto untested tight end Larry Donnell and fourth-year receiver Jerrel Jernigan.

These were the same issues the Giants seemed to have throughout the five-game preseason that they repeatedly insisted were never important. Except now, those preseason offensive growing pains are truly a problem, Cruz admitted.

“Honestly, I did think that those (preseason) problems would be over,” he said. “That I did think we’d be able to kind of get into a little bit of a rhythm. Mainly because we were playing a full four quarters.”

Yet things were still exactly as they’d been in August, when Cruz and Randle combined for seven preseason catches.

On Monday night, Manning didn’t even look for his (former) favorite receiver until late in the first quarter, and the two didn’t hook up for a catch until Cruz hauled in a four-yarder with 1:55 left in the first half. Cruz, who was targeted six times, finished with two catches for 24 yards.

Randle was even more of a non-factor. The Giants’ lone experienced receiver who stands taller than six feet had just three balls thrown his way, finishing with one total yard. And Cruz didn’t like that, either.

Rueben Randle catches two passes Monday night for just one yard.


Rueben Randle catches two passes Monday night for just one yard.

Still, Cruz said it was also “important” to establish Jernigan and Donnell as offensive threats.

“They played well,” he said. “I think Larry Donnell had a great game and he made some big catches for us... I think it’s important to increase those guys’ confidence. I think it’s important to get those guys started, as well as getting everybody else involved as well.”

And to Cruz, that last part seemed to be the key. He’d spent most of the summer speaking effusively about the new West Coast attack, of how he thought he could catch 90-to-100 balls in this offense, about how he liked a system that promised to get the ball in his hands early and often, giving him the chance to juke past defenders after the catch. Randle had also been excited, believing this new attack would let him “play fast.”

But in the first game of the McAdoo era, the two players who seemed likely to benefit from the offensive philosophy shift felt like bystanders. And Cruz was left to hope that things would change in Sunday’s home opener against Arizona.

“The great part is it’s just Week 1,” he said, “and we have time to fix this thing.”
 
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I mean, he isn't completely wrong but...he doesn't even wanna get hit. Severe alligator arms. No need to say that thru the media.
 
The problem is Victor Cruz, although very talented, is not a number one receiver imo. If opponents put their best DB on him he's not going to light it up. Until some of the other receivers step up he should expect coverage to focus on him.
 
The WR corps, although only after one game, was not able to create separation against a supposedly below average secondary in Detroit. This does not bode well, along with the main problem with our line not being able to block for more than 2.5 seconds.

Anyone going on Sunday? I still got my tickets, so leaning towards heading out there.
 
Exactly, I know the WR talent doesn't look too great right now, but Hakeem was becoming part of the problem.

He was appreciated, but it was time to move on.

The closer Sunday comes, the less optimistic I become. Can someone explain to me HOW the Giants would beat that team? Cardinals are solid all around (and special defensively), while the Giants have no identity and a poor offensive live.
 
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Exactly, I know the WR talent doesn't look too great right now, but Hakeem was becoming part of the problem.

He was appreciated, but it was time to move on.

The closer Sunday comes, the less optimistic I become. Can someone explain to me HOW the Giants would beat that team? Cardinals are solid all around (and special defensively), while the Giants have no identity and a poor offensive live.
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They won't [emoji]128514[/emoji]
 
venom lyrix said:
if Giants defense don't eat Drew Stanton alive today, I'll be forever sad
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Well that changes things a bit.


This screwed me >: Picked against my giants this week (as I plan to do most season) for my weekly pool, and had the Cardinals first. Thought it'd be an easy W with their defense, and offensive weapons.
 
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That was a lame call on the roughing the passer, but the ref really had no choice...at least JPP is showing signs of life
 
Roughing the passer and holding were absolute garbage calls, defense stopped them twice.
 
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