Police Kill Unarmed Teen In Ferguson, Missouri

What I dont get from the "whats your purpose, what are goals...stupid protestors blah blah!"

You do realize that the very thing they're protesting for is why you (black, brown, and other minorities) get to spew your stupid *** opinions on social media, right?

If not for the "stupid protesting" and "questioning law enforcement" and "boycotting big business" there would be no Civil Rights Act and we'd still segregated, and worse off.

Just think about that when you decide to judge protestors. I mean, you're only judging the 1 person with an ISIS banner, so I don't think you'll see the bigger picture but, ehh...keep on preaching that "be the change you want to see BS"
 
This is just occupy wall street black edition.

with no clear legislative goals, and no clear leadership this will all be over in less than 6 months with no progress made other than a few gofundme accounts getting fat.

This stuff takes time. Maybe there isn't one clear leader yet but that stuff doesnt just happen right from the start. Unity, education and passion is the 1st step. You seem very eager for it to be over though.
 
 
What I dont get from the "whats your purpose, what are goals...stupid protestors blah blah!"

You do realize that the very thing they're protesting for is why you (black, brown, and other minorities) get to spew your stupid *** opinions on social media, right?

If not for the "stupid protesting" and "questioning law enforcement" and "boycotting big business" there would be no Civil Rights Act and we'd still segregated, and worse off.

Just think about that when you decide to judge protestors. I mean, you're only judging the 1 person with an ISIS banner, so I don't think you'll see the bigger picture but, ehh...keep on preaching that "be the change you want to see BS"
who are you talking to?
 
 
it looks like they have started working towards a legislative goal: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pe...d-citizens-please-amend-constitution/11s2JFKc
[h1]It should be unconstitutional for officers of the law to kill unarmed citizens. Please amend the constitution.[/h1]
I'm asking for a revision of our constitution. It does not protect the average American citizen from the use of excessive, lethal, or deadly force to resolve citizen/police conflicts. Police officers have an array of non-lethal weapons but choose to murder unarmed citizens as they deem necessary. This murder with no trial or conviction is unconstitutional and should be out-lawed. Without amending the constitution to provide protection to vulnerable citizens, our lives are in the hands of officers who are authorized to be the jury, prosecutor, and judge when facing confrontation on duty.

..... this is not a legislative goal.... its just asking that it be unconstitutional to murder citizens.... it is already unconstitutional to commit murder... the way these killings are justified is through individual state policy regarding law enforcement... so that should be the goal is to directly influence law enforcement policy... right?

This is what i'm talking about... im not insulting the movement when I say this.. this makes me sad. There's no way to make a law out of this petition. 
 
Yall just make sure yall got yall cell phone cameras on deck whenever you see police coming

Just a matter of time before we see some incident of racial injustice on GoPro
 
the thing is... who called the protesters stupid?

who is against boycotting big business?

who is against questioning law enforcement?

Is he talking about people in the media? or people in this thread?
 
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no you missed my point

im sayin you're callin them stupid because according to you they arent "organized or successful"

yet all i see are organized, peaceful, effective protest and disruption of black friday **** all day

if youre trying to say the protests in ferguson werent organized, im guessin youre only counting those after the grand jury decision
 
Nah. Just a Twitter narrative that caught on.
This is what Dorian Johnson said about the incident:

http://fox2now.com/2014/08/15/store-owners-talk-about-surveillance-released/

Store owners/employees didnt call about a robbery, the video doesn't look like a robbery, and Brown pushed the guy AFTER he put hands on him - yet Brown is this superthug in the eyes of the WS and the media. If Brown was 100% in the wrong, those guys would've called the cops, no?

If no one called the police, then how did the police know the video existed? The link you posted is from the 15th of August. Isn't it plausible that the store owner is simply lying in order to avoid any further blow back?

And lastly, I posted Dorian Johnson's testimony. Your interpretation of the video doesn't really matter. It looks like a robbery, and that's what Dorian Johnson said it was.
 
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no you missed my point

im sayin you're callin them stupid because according to you they arent "organized or successful"

yet all i see are organized, peaceful, effective protest and disruption of black friday **** all day

if youre trying to say the protests in ferguson werent organized, im guessin youre only counting those after the grand jury decision
Saying that there should be a legislative goal and clear leadership behind the movement to be successful...is in no way saying "the protestors are stupid"...

I'm comparing the effective tactics used by occupy wallstreet.... concerted effort nationwide/extended protesting in almost all major cities

vs the tea party... which did pretty much the same but they actually had defined legislative goals and political leadership....

I want this movement to actualize... not just protesting with no backend to push for change...

The civil rights movement wasn't just protests... there were clear legislative goals and leadership.

Don't try to put words in my mouth because you are getting mad at my opinion... debate it with me if need be...

but insulting me and misquoting my words is just creating division with your own people.
 
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please show me where i misquoted you.

second, you can want all of those things and not try to downplay the efforts people are making to be heard

the same way you appealing for legislation, some might say you're just waiting on your oppressors to be "less oppressive"
 
 
please show me where i misquoted you.
im sayin you're callin them stupid because according to you they arent "organized or successful"
and regarding legislative changes..... how in the hell can you compare having a clear legislative goal to "just waiting on your oppressors to be "less oppressive"

The civil rights movement had clear legislative goals... thats what made it successful.. they achieved legislative change... ie. the civil rights act.
 
 
 
please show me where i misquoted you.
im sayin you're callin them stupid because according to you they arent "organized or successful"
and regarding legislative changes..... how in the hell can you compare having a clear legislative goal to "just waiting on your oppressors to be "less oppressive"

The civil rights movement had clear legislative goals... thats what made it successful.. they achieved legislative change... ie. the civil rights act.
that wasnt a misquote, that was me saying thats what you think

and regarding civil rights, it was as much if not more people in the streets, people boycotting, and people protesting/marching that won civil rights. 

dont make it sound like he civil rights movement came down to men in suits in a room with paperwork that made us all equal.
 
 
that wasnt a misquote, that was me saying thats what you think

and regarding civil rights, it was as much if not more people in the streets, people boycotting, and people protesting/marching that won civil rights. 

dont make it sound like he civil rights movement came down to men in suits in a room with paperwork that made us all equal.
no you're not saying what I'm thinking, you're reacting emotionally to something you don't understand

I'm saying the protesting is already in full swing and the exposure is something that is worth millions alone....

what's needed is clear leadership to direct the political component on the backend to push for legislation

This is the difference between occupy wall street and the tea party

If I say your macbook needs more ram, I'm not calling your hard drive stupid
 
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You keep that as if there isn't leadership or politicians and other community leaders within the area working towards those things.

You're assuming there isn't just cause the media would rather show the riots and black Friday protests.
 
 
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..... this is not a legislative goal.... its just asking that it be unconstitutional to murder citizens.... it is already unconstitutional to commit murder... the way these killings are justified is through individual state policy regarding law enforcement... so that should be the goal is to directly influence law enforcement policy... right?

This is what i'm talking about... im not insulting the movement when I say this.. this makes me sad. There's no way to make a law out of this petition. 
thanks for clearing that up, i don't live in the states so my knowledge is limited on how to effectively change or implement new laws. but what i do like about that is its an example that people are doing more than protesting, hopefully they get more effective and successful with time. 
 
its sounds like you just want one person to like umbrella this entire situation to its destruction

like if al sharpton or somebody were to take the charge up then when it fails we can blame it on "leadership"
 
You keep that as if there isn't leadership or politicians and other community leaders within the area working towards those things.

You're assuming there isn't just cause the media would rather show the riots and black Friday protests.
Please enlighten me on the leadership and legislation being drafted.

I've only come across different random groups with no clearly designated leadership in ferguson
 
 
its sounds like you just want one person to like umbrella this entire situation to its destruction

like if al sharpton or somebody were to take the charge up then when it fails we can blame it on "leadership"
a movement with leadership will be way more successful than one without.

period..... history has taught us this
 
That amendment is ridiculous. U need a real goal like getting police to wear cameras or something. But i cant judge the protesting itself.
 
I'm not I did it two days ago and you just kept asking the same damn question.

It doesn't matter how it's accomplished whether it's by a group of local leaders, representatives or whoever or Obama himself. As long as they're people out there fighting for change in all arenas on the ground in the economic area, political realm, which there are right now you're just ignoring it. So at this point I'm going to ignore you.
 
If no one called the police, then how did the police know the video existed? The link you posted is from the 15th of August. Isn't it plausible that the store owner is simply lying in order to avoid any further blow back?

And lastly, I posted Dorian Johnson's testimony. Your interpretation of the video doesn't really matter. It looks like a robbery, and that's what Dorian Johnson said it was.

A customer allegedly called the police. Dorian johnson made some statements regarding Wilson - do you take those at 100% fact as well? I'm going to bet my life on the fact that you don't take Johnsons word even though he was with Wilson and Brown when it happened.

In that quote, he doesn't say anything that refutes what I'm saying. The situation seemed calm, money changed hands at one point - I could definitely see it being a case of Brown not having or not wanting to show ID but still "paying" for the cigarillos.
 
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