Police Kill Unarmed Teen In Ferguson, Missouri

I'm not I did it two days ago and you just kept asking the same damn question.

It doesn't matter how it's accomplished whether it's by a group of local leaders, representatives or whoever or Obama himself. As long as they're people out there fighting for change in all arenas on the ground in the economic area, political realm, which there are right now you're just ignoring it. So at this point I'm going to ignore you.
There's not a single leader there's many community leaders including clergy, politicians, and others. They've tried to have organized protests but we're met with excessive police force, questionable leadership and misleading actions by the state and local government. There have been plenty of peaceful marches and protests since August. The only times is escalated to violence is when either the police & govt insinuated it ie releasing that store video before the officers name in August or last night. The response has been overwhelming calm and constitutionally appropriate.

But again the system is what they're battling and that same system has shown to be incapable of both protecting them or their property and at the same time being and oppressive force. The goal is to change the systemic nature mired in race relations at its core and police-citizen interaction on its surface.

If you've been following this story as well as the countless others like out in the past years you would know that. And thats why you see the response nationwide cause Ferguson is just a microcosm of the ugly side this country is trying to bury.
Your response was just a vague. "there's not one leader, theres many leaders"

you named none, and didn't point out the legislative goals being pursued....

I'm going to assume you really don't even know of any because you haven't named a single one in two days of me asking.

please put me on ignore so you won't misquote/project your emotion when I speak on improving the movement
 
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Your response was just a vague. "there's not one leader, theres many leaders"

you named none, and didn't point out the legislative goals being pursued....
I'm going to assume you really don't even know of any because you haven't named a single one in two days of me asking.

please put me on ignore so you won't misquote/project your emotion when I speak on improving the movement

Look up Shaun King and @deray on Twitter. So you literally know of no leaders? Do research instead of just shutting down the movement then.
 
Your response was just a vague. "there's not one leader, theres many leaders"

you named none, and didn't point out the legislative goals being pursued....
I'm going to assume you really don't even know of any because you haven't named a single one in two days of me asking.

please put me on ignore so you won't misquote/project your emotion when I speak on improving the movement

Since you seem to have all answers...what should be done?
 
Since you seem to have all answers...what should be done?
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I've been saying the same thing in every single post in the last couple days.... 

the same posts you responded to over and over again...

and now you ask me what should be done?

did you even read what I wrote before you quoted/misquoted me?
 
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For the most part, they aren't looking for any legislative help, they are trying to take control back over their neighborhoods. Disrupting the local economy directly effects their government and gives them more power
 
You're already blocked it just keeps showing up on my mobile.

This is from the Huffington post but a committee probably isn't good enough since they don't have Jesse JacJackson leading them.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6222532
Gov. Jay Nixon on Tuesday swore in the 16 members of the Ferguson Commission: a mix of lawyers, CEOs, former and current police officials and educators — along with one 20-year-old protester

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_018cc5a3-d3db-5296-a581-75ca49921153.html

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did you even read the story before you posted it?

The commission is appointed by the governor...given no real political power, and is spearheaded by CEO's, lawyers, police officers?

you fell for the okie doke
 
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For the most part, they aren't looking for any legislative help, they are trying to take control back over their neighborhoods. Disrupting the local economy directly effects their government and gives them more power

That's not true. There are things being formulated and already in the works on the political side like the action committee but nobody talks about that.
 
Instead of posting emojis say specifically what you want and stop asking questions. Who do you want in charge? What legislation should they be fighting for? How do they go about doing that? You probably don't have an answer for anything. Just trying to should educated like you know it all when you obviously don't have a clue about the basics.
 
How many cops have actually did time for killing a young brother? I think just that cop that killed Oscar Grant and he only did like a year. Gotta love this country. :smh:
 
Instead of posting emojis say specifically what you want and stop asking questions. Who do you want in charge? What legislation should they be fighting for? How do they go about doing that? You probably don't have an answer for anything. Just trying to should educated like you know it all when you obviously don't have a clue about the basics.
Didn't you hear? Gov. Nixon got a group of lawyers, CEO's and police officers together... they are going to make sure things get done for the black community.... 

I should have just shut my mouth in the beginning....i apologize...
 
That's not true. There are things being formulated and already in the works on the political side like the action committee but nobody talks about that.
Jus seen the link, I didn't know that, but just as well I personally don't have any faith in the system to correct any social problems the way that communal effort does. Hope they make some breakthroughs tho
 
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I don't really have much faith either based on the constitution of the committee but again it's a start. It has to be a collective effort of everyone. And is not the only thing being done You can't change 100+ years of learned behavior and habits overnight. They at least have to come to the table in earnest now hopefully given the attention this particular incident and how it's made the entire leadership in that area look incompetent.

I first would have the DA and Governor removed but that can't happen for another 2 years at least.
 
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Yea after the decision, they looked disastrously unorganized... I think that now that they have had time to catch a breath, they can get organized. Definitely doesn't stop here, over time I can see that there collective effort makes for a positive result sometime in the future
 
If no one called the police, then how did the police know the video existed? The link you posted is from the 15th of August. Isn't it plausible that the store owner is simply lying in order to avoid any further blow back?

And lastly, I posted Dorian Johnson's testimony. Your interpretation of the video doesn't really matter. It looks like a robbery, and that's what Dorian Johnson said it was.

In that quote, he doesn't say anything that refutes what I'm saying. The situation seemed calm, money changed hands at one point - I could definitely see it being a case of Brown not having or not wanting to show ID but still "paying" for the cigarillos.


Again:


Johnson testified he had planned to pay for the cigarillos, but Brown reached over the counter and grabbed them. Brown walked toward the door and the store clerk rushed around the counter to prevent his exit. He shoved the clerk and left the store. As they walked out, the clerk said he would call the police.
 
Be specific gwap. I need bulletpoints, a power point...
1. Create or designate the specific organization/group that is spearheading the effort in ferguson

2. Bring together and sort out the ideas on what can be done legislatively to bring about the change we want to see

3. Go over the legal/monetary/political necessities to bringing about the legislative change

4. Find partnership with politicians/political groups to lobby or push forward the effort towards the legislative goal

5. Fundraising for legislative goal

6. Community/nationwide awareness for legislative goal

something like that would be a lovely START....

please don't quote me as saying somebody is stupid
 
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Here's what I think k what happened.

Wilson told them to "get the **** out the road"

Brown said "**** you, my *****... We almost there. Stop tripping"

Wilson got pissed and tried to roll up on him... On some "you don't disrespect a cop like that" steez

Then he tried to open the door and hit him... But brown is a big dude and push him back in.

Wilson felt played and tried to grab him...

He got a good grab on brown, but brown pushed him back in the car... Prolly saying "you tripping bruh. Get the **** off me"

Wilson tried to pull the gun out and shoot him because brown was pushing him back on the car, basically little boy'ing him..

Brown grabbed the gun and a forced it down to keep him from shooting him... Then subsequently tried to take it out of his hand because Wilson wouldn't let him go

When the two shots went off, they took off...

Wilson felt even MORE PLAYED because they got away and started chasing and shooting...

He was a terrible shot...

But connected on one and hit him in the back of the arm... This where he started bleeding...

The big ***** eventually got tired (he 300 lbs) and slowed down (where the trail of blood comes from).. He stopped and turned becauae he wilsom kept shooting

But as soon as he went to say I give up, Wilson kept shooting and hit once (2nd shot)...

brown started walking back towards him like "aight stop! I give up"

A couple more connected (3rd and 4th)... I think these were the quickest bullets because he began to stumble..


He started stumbling forward, and the last two (5 and 6) got him in the head.
 
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1. Create or designate the specific organization/group that is spearheading the effort in ferguson

2. Bring together and sort out the ideas on what can be done legislatively to bring about the change we want to see

3. Go over the legal/monetary/political necessities to bringing about the legislative change

4. Find partnership with politicians/political groups to lobby or push forward the effort towards the legislative goal

5. Fundraising for legislative goal

6. Community/nationwide awareness for legislative goal

something like that would be a lovely START....

please don't quote me as saying somebody is stupid
1. They have Alderman, church officials, and NPOs that are shut out.

2. The system was already set up for blacks and browns to fail...they'll just be amending laws that are still circumvented by the those with power within the system (i.e., McCullough using outdated law to sway grand jury perception of what was lawful.)

3. Difficult when our own president can't get anything passed in Congress.

4. These racist bastards in MO are democrats AND republicans...thats the hardest hurdle.

5. DW raised more money than MB did...the white folks with all the power....have all the money.

6. The protests, albeit, not to your liking are doing JUST THAT. I understand the legislative part is clear and I'm missing your point but it's a start.

I see your point but it's an uphill battle, through a tornado to get anywhere near getting any legislative done.

I compare the black and brown community to a child victim of family rape (extreme but let me get my point across)

You put your faith and trust in the one person you're SUPPOSED to (the system, elected officials) but they end up screwing you over.

McCullough went in with no vaseline on the black population in MO with that BS grand jury.
 
found this petition by Shaun King/Dream Defenders, it has 253K signs as of this moment and the goal is 1 million: https://www.change.org/p/president-...mmunities-from-police-violence-and-misconduct

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Our 7 Policy Solutions Are As Follows:

1. The avoidable shooting and killing or otherwise murdering of an unarmed citizen who does not have an outstanding warrant for a violent crime should be a federal offense.

2. Choke holds and chest compressions by police (what the coroner lists as the official cause of death for Eric Garner) should be federally banned.

3. All police officers must wear forward-facing body cameras while on duty. They cost just $99 and are having a significant, positive impact in several cities around the United States and the world. Turning them off should warrant immediate termination.  

4. A trusted 3rd party business should monitor and store all videos from forward facing cameras.

5. Suspensions for violations of any of the above offenses should be UNPAID. If a third party review board clears the officer, the back pay, which could sit in escrow could be given back to the officer. If found guilty, the money in escrow should be given to victims of police violence.

6. All murders by police must be investigated, immediately so, by a trusted and unbiased third party. It is not sufficient for the police, who are like a family, to investigate a murder by one of their own.

7. Convictions for the above offenses should have their own set of mandatory minimum penalties. The men who killed Diallo, Bell, Grant, Carter, Garner, and others all walk free while over 1,000,000 non violent offenders are currently incarcerated in American prisons.

These federal actions are in the best interest of our country. We will direct our anger, our dollars, our votes, and our voice to seeing them happen all across the country. 

thoughts?
 
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Here's what I think k what happened.

Wilson told them to "get the **** out the road"

Brown said "**** you, my *****... We almost there. Stop tripping"

Wilson got pissed and tried to roll up on him... On some "you don't disrespect a cop like that" steez

Then he tried to open the door and hit him... But brown is a big dude and push him back in.

Wilson felt played and tried to grab him...

He got a good grab on brown, but brown pushed him back in the car... Prolly saying "you tripping bruh. Get the **** off me"

Wilson tried to pull the gun out and shoot him because brown was pushing him back on the car, basically little boy'ing him..

Brown grabbed the gun and a forced it down to keep him from shooting him... Then subsequently tried to take it out of his hand because Wilson wouldn't let him go

When the two shots went off, they took off...

Wilson felt even MORE PLAYED because they got away and started chasing and shooting...

He was a terrible shot...

But connected on one and hit him in the back of the arm... This where he started bleeding...

The big ***** eventually got tired (he 300 lbs) and slowed down (where the trail of blood comes from).. He stopped and turned becauae he wilsom kept shooting

But as soon as he went to say I give up, Wilson kept shooting and hit once (2nd shot)...

brown started walking back towards him like "aight stop! I give up"

A couple more connected (3rd and 4th)... I think these were the quickest bullets because he began to stumble..


He started stumbling forward, and the last two (5 and 6) got him in the head.
That is exactly what happened
 
[h1]Black cop killed by white officer: Horror in East Harlem as off-duty rookie is shot pursuing suspect[/h1][h2]  [/h2]
BY ALISON GENDAR ERICA PEARSON BARRY PADDOCK LEO STANDORA 
 
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS

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KEIVOM/NEWSPolice respond to scene in East Harlem on Thursday night where off-duty cop Omar Edwards was fatally shot by NYPD while in pursuit of carjack thief.

An off-duty rookie cop chasing a suspected car thief in East Harlem  with his gun drawn was shot and killed Thursday night when an officer mistook him for a criminal.

"Police! Stop! Drop it!" cops from the 25th Precinct shouted at Omar Edwards, 25.

As he started to turn toward him - the gun still in his hand - an officer opened fire, sources said.

The officer involved in the shooting is white, Edwards is black and had no visible NYPD  identification on him, sources said. It was unclear if Edwards identified himself.

"This is always a black cop's fear, that he'd be mistaken for a [suspect]," a source said.

His father couldn't fathom how such a fatal mistake could happen.

"If a police officer sees someone with a gun, you don't just fire without asking questions or trying to apprehend the person," said Ricardo Edwards, 72. "If the person was firing at a police officer, I understand."

"It's a horror for everyone involved. No one comes out unscathed," a police source said.

One dejected cop said Edwards "just became a new father. He took some personal time so he could take the baby to North Carolina  to meet his folks."

Edwards' mother, Natalia Harding, said her son had just married his girlfriend,Danielle Glen, last month at City Hall. They have two kids - 11/2-year-old Xavier and 7-month-old Keanua.

"I'm hurt that they took my son. That's my baby they took from me. And all I got was his last hug and kiss when he went to work [tonight] and he said, 'Ma, I'll see you when I come home,' " Natalia Harding said between sobs Friday morning at her Brooklyn  apartment.

NYPD Commissioner Raymond Kelly  said Edwards, who had been on the force less than two years and worked out of a Manhattan  housing unit, had left work about 10:30 p.m.

He was in street clothes as he walked toward his car parked about a block away on Second Ave. between E. 124th and E. 125th St., where he saw Miguel Goitia  rummaging through the vehicle. The driver's side window was busted out.

Edwards grabbed Goitia, who managed to slip out of his sweater and escape Edwards' grip, Kelly said.

Gun drawn, Edwards gave chase.

At the same time, three plainclothes officers in an unmarked car saw Edwards running down the street. The car made a U-turn, and one of the officers, a white cop with more than four years on the job, got out and fired six shots - hitting Edwards twice, once in the left arm and once in the chest, Kelly said.

Edwards did not fire his weapon.

Maalik Lane, 20, who was walking nearby, said suddenly he heard shots.

"More than five, boom, boom, boom, boom. Then there were just a lot of police blocking the streets."

Mayor Bloomberg, at a press conference at Harlem Hospital, said he expressed his sorrow to Edwards' wife.

"Nothing that you can ever say will bring back the deceased. He was there protecting the rest of us. We will find out what happened," Bloomberg said. "This is a tragedy. We'll see what we can learn from it."

Cops discovered Edwards was one of them when rescue crews cut open his shirt to treat the bleeding and saw a police academy shirt. They then searched his pockets and found his shield, sources said.

Investigators said the anti-crime cops arrested the car-theft suspect Goitia.

Edwards' mother said her son's dream was to be a cop.

"Ever since he was a little kid, he wanted to be a police officer. Something I didn't want, but it was his choice and he loved what he was doing. He loved helping other people," Harding said, noting she always worried about his safety.
[h1]NYPD officer Andrew Dunton, who shot and killed off-duty cop Omar Edwards in terrible friendly-fire incident in 2009, will be promoted to sergeant[/h1][h2]Dunton was previously cleared to return to active duty and passed the sergeant's exam, but Edwards' family has mixed feelings about his increase in rank[/h2]
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AARON SHOWALTER FOR NEW YORK DAIOfficer Andrew Dunton (l.) fatally shot fellow cop Omar Edwards in a 2009 friendly-fire incident; the latter was off-duty. Dunton is being promoted to sergeant.

The NYPD cop who shot and killed an off-duty fellow officer during a racially charged friendly-fire incident in 2009 will be promoted to sergeant on Friday.

The family of slain Officer Omar Edwards expressed mixed feelings over the new rank for Officer Andrew Dunton, 33.

Edwards, 25, was dressed in civilian clothes and chasing a man who had broken into his car in Harlem when he encountered Dunton and two other officers, as they jumped out of an unmarked car.

Edwards had his police shield in his pocket, but did not identify himself as a cop when the three officers ordered him to drop his gun. When Edwards instead turned toward the officers, Dunton shot him.

The incident raised anew a concern minority cops have when they’re not in uniform. Edwards was black. Dunton is white.

Edwards’ 75-year-old father, Ricardo, said Thursday that he does not hold a grudge against Dunton and gave his blessing to the promotion.

“I never met the man, but I have no hard feelings toward him,” he said. “I leave everything up to the Lord. He gives it and he takes it away.”

But the dead cop’s widow, Danielle — the mother of Edwards’ two sons — was disappointed.

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JAMES MONROE ADAMS IV/FOR NEW YORK DAILY NEWSOfficer Andrew Dunton (l.) fatally shot fellow cop Omar Edwards in a 2009 friendly-fire incident; the latter was off-duty. Dunton is being promoted to sergeant.

“She’s not happy about this, and I’m not happy about this,” said her father, William Glenn. “We acknowledge that what happened was an accident, but that shows you’re not supervisory material.”

The NYPD often keeps officers involved in controversial cases on restricted duty for months, if not years; such a move precludes any promotions.

But Dunton, whose colleagues described him as being devastated by Edwards’ death, was subsequently cleared by a grand jury and returned to full duty. He worked most recently in the juvenile justice unit.

After passing the sergeant’s test, he will be promoted along with 101 other cops at a ceremony at NYPD Headquarters in Manhattan.

Edwards’ father said his grief remains, but he is coping with it as best he can.

“I’ve got friends and family, and they keep me busy,” he said. “I go from day to day.”
 [h1]My cop slay still haunts[/h1]
By M.L. Nestel

June 3, 2013 | 4:00am

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SGT. ANDREW DUNTON Shot fellow officer dead in ’09.

An NYPD cop who accidentally killed a fellow officer spoke about the incident for the first time on the four-year anniversary — and said the pain of that day will never go away.

“I’m trying to get along with my life and hopefully the other side is getting on with their life,” Sgt. Andrew Dunton told The Post last week.

He vividly recalled the night of May 28, 2009. Dunton, who is white, was with fellow anti-crime-unit members when they saw 25-year-old rookie Officer Omar Edwards in plain clothes sprinting after a thief who tried to break into his car in East Harlem.

Edwards, who was black and worked a housing-project post, did not respond to the officers’ shouts of “Police! Drop it!” — and Dunton fatally shot the young cop in his heart, lung and chest.

It was only as Edwards lay dying that they realized they had felled one of their own.

Edwards was posthumously promoted to detective. The emotions are still raw for his family.

Danielle Glenn, 22, who was left to raise their children, Xavier and Keanu, said, “I have nothing to say about that.”

But Edwards’ 76-year-old father Ricardo said he forgives Dunton.

“We are all human beings,” he said. “I don’t hold him accountable for nothing whatsoever. He did what he had to do.”

But the father said he’s wounded.

“I think about Omar every second, every minute, every hour. It’s not an easy thing to live with.”

Dunton was at the 17th Precinct Community Council meeting on the East Side on Tuesday’s anniversary to deliver a slide show on the NYPD’s social-media strategy that targets gang violence.

One community member asked Dunton of his cyber undercover work, “Do you fear for your life?”

“Do I fear for my life? I always fear for my life,” he said. “Everyone should fear for their life. You don’t know what’s going to happen this year.”

That’s when he recounted the Edwards shooting.

“I hate to talk about this, but today actually marks the four-year anniversary — I was involved in a police-involved shooting which closed one door to my police career,” he said.

“But one door opened and I was allowed to do this, work on this and help affect other people.” “My door is always open,” he said. “Any kid can always come talk to me.”

The sergeant also uses his slide show to educate troubled youths.

“Their mentality is not there,” he said of the city’s estimated 330 crews and gangs — with 5,000 kids claiming membership.
 
[h1]Officer Who Shot Fellow Cop Liked by Neighbors[/h1]

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Andrew Dunton, seen here in his yearbook picture from Bellport High School, is now on administrative duty.

Friday, May 29, 2009 • Updated at 6:49 PM EST

Andrew Dunton's parents said nothing when they were escorted by the Suffolk County police  when they left their Long Island  home Friday, but a couple of neighbors said plenty about the family.

"They're such good people," Bernice Cunningham  said. "They're such a close family."

[h3]Neighbors Speak Highly of Embattled Office[/h3][h3]  [/h3]
Neighbors of the the family of Officer Andrew Dunton  had nothing but positive things to say about the man the day after he shot and killed a fellow cop. (Published Friday, May 29, 2009)

Dunton, an NYPD officer, shot and killed a fellow cop in a case of mistaken identity Thursday night. Officer Omar Edwards, not dressed in uniform, had his gun drawn as he chased a suspect on foot in Harlem. Dunton and two officers pulled up in an unmarked car and Dunton ultimately shot Edwards.

Cunningham said she's lived near the Duntons for years, and added that you couldn't say a bad word about Andrew.

"He's the best," she said. "If this really happened, trust me when I say, he thought he was doing the best for the citizens of the city. He's a really good guy, as honest and nice as they come.

Dunton, 30, went to Bellport High School  and is a nearly five-year veteran of the force. He was recently married, but is now on administrative duty.

Another neighbor said "you couldn't ask for anything better. He was a good boy all these years. It was an accident."
 
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