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If it's someone you know, I'd flat out tell them what you wrote in here.
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But if their issues relate, why not unite? I dont get it.
Are you saying blacks should focus strictly on black issues?
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^bruh, why do you want black people to worry about everyone else when no one else worries about us?
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this thread
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Lol They just want a church going man who's an educated thug.
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I date her sister, who's the complete opposite, and she tells her all the time.
It's unfortunate cuz she doesn't listen. And she hates me because I've already had to keep it 100 with her on some other stuff and she ain't like that
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Our history shows we are a loving caring people, and our warrior spirit has allowed us to overcome centuries of calculated oppression.
We are the first to unite with others who are being afflicted, so it's not about African American people not wanting to unite with others.
What our focus needs to be and has to be right now in the year 2015, is the strengthening of the relationship between the African American man and the African American woman.
A strengthened relationship between the African American man and the African American woman creates a strengthened African American family.
We are the first to unite with others who are being afflicted, so it's not about African American people not wanting to unite with others.
What our focus needs to be and has to be right now in the year 2015, is the strengthening of the relationship between the African American man and the African American woman.
A strengthened relationship between the African American man and the African American woman creates a strengthened African American family.
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I date her sister, who's the complete opposite, and she tells her all the time.
It's unfortunate cuz she doesn't listen. And she hates me because I've already had to keep it 100 with her on some other stuff and she ain't like that
Let her live, as long as she isnt trying to prevent you from getting stuff done in life then she is just another non factor.
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I mean nah it wasn't even bout that. I just had to keep it real about her general disrespectful attitude. But nah, I'm gonna let her crash her own life, I'm done tryna save ignorant people.
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Whats the point of judging her? Like if thats what she wants, let her search for that bruh. No offense its just wrong that you out there judging her.
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The Law of the Noose: A History of Latino Lynching
http://harvardcrcl.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/297-312.pdf
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Listen around 1:00:00
Interesting in context.
Interesting in context.
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the condescension in this thread is telling in terms of the reception to most of these messages by most people, and speaks to the way that some of the racist ideologies of years long past have been internalized...of course there are, always have been & will always will be, those that are ignorant willfully, of every creed...however for most there are real structural things that affect their lives adversely that have less to with ignorance than really that the economy in many places (maybe especially in the western countries) that make it very difficult to move up the way people did even a generation ago.
it may be that there will always be some portion of people, who for whatever reason, don't fit with the economy at a particular time, it used to be that one didn't need much education to get a gig, that not only was well paying, but pretty stable...and that isn't really true of most anyone these days; such as there is now the expectation that even the most educated will likely have multiple different & perhaps tangentially related (if related at all) careers. add that to the increasing efficiency of technology many people & jobs are getting displaced and that the cost of education is increasing at just about every level despite the seeming ubiquity & potential of the internet as a learning tool...if you don't need as people to do things, what happens to people?
as to solutions? typically it has been education but the idea of 'creative destruction' is or has become just apart of the churn of capitalism/ thought, the system is kinda built around the idea that cycles of boom & bust and that people & capital will move accordingly, new replacing the old...it may just be that the cycle is/ has been moving too quickly to for people to adjust at a reasonable investment both economically & time put in...this video gets at what i mean in ways, sometimes people don't have the luxury (for various reasons) of developing a thing over time to the point of mastery, get discouraged or move on to something more lucrative, some countries are even thinking about experimenting with giving every citizen of their country a livable stipend or 'basic income':
it isn't that 'race' doesn't play a factor in things, it most certainly does and in some places it is more pronounced than others but it seems to certainly be less of an issue now than it was decades ago; and that is not to mean that things are all sweet now, just seems to be shortsighted to think of issues in terms of 'race' when the problems are much bigger than that...because we don't exist in a vacuum, and i'm generally skeptical of anyone who frames things in those terms, but probably more importantly i think history has shown that 'race' is a rather weak point of connection, self-interest & culture probably go further...and to that point the issue(s) that concern a person living on the east coast are different from those faced in the south from those in the midwest, from those on a different continent; which contributes to the ways the cultures themselves already differ...
i don't begrudge trying to getting together with like-minded folk to do whatever, granted it isn't harmful to others, my question is why put down others because they don't follow your agenda? to call another man (or woman for that matter) lost is the epitome of condescension, people make decisions based on the options they see or can create, and the problem in a many communities is that there are too few of them...
it may be that there will always be some portion of people, who for whatever reason, don't fit with the economy at a particular time, it used to be that one didn't need much education to get a gig, that not only was well paying, but pretty stable...and that isn't really true of most anyone these days; such as there is now the expectation that even the most educated will likely have multiple different & perhaps tangentially related (if related at all) careers. add that to the increasing efficiency of technology many people & jobs are getting displaced and that the cost of education is increasing at just about every level despite the seeming ubiquity & potential of the internet as a learning tool...if you don't need as people to do things, what happens to people?
as to solutions? typically it has been education but the idea of 'creative destruction' is or has become just apart of the churn of capitalism/ thought, the system is kinda built around the idea that cycles of boom & bust and that people & capital will move accordingly, new replacing the old...it may just be that the cycle is/ has been moving too quickly to for people to adjust at a reasonable investment both economically & time put in...this video gets at what i mean in ways, sometimes people don't have the luxury (for various reasons) of developing a thing over time to the point of mastery, get discouraged or move on to something more lucrative, some countries are even thinking about experimenting with giving every citizen of their country a livable stipend or 'basic income':
it isn't that 'race' doesn't play a factor in things, it most certainly does and in some places it is more pronounced than others but it seems to certainly be less of an issue now than it was decades ago; and that is not to mean that things are all sweet now, just seems to be shortsighted to think of issues in terms of 'race' when the problems are much bigger than that...because we don't exist in a vacuum, and i'm generally skeptical of anyone who frames things in those terms, but probably more importantly i think history has shown that 'race' is a rather weak point of connection, self-interest & culture probably go further...and to that point the issue(s) that concern a person living on the east coast are different from those faced in the south from those in the midwest, from those on a different continent; which contributes to the ways the cultures themselves already differ...
i don't begrudge trying to getting together with like-minded folk to do whatever, granted it isn't harmful to others, my question is why put down others because they don't follow your agenda? to call another man (or woman for that matter) lost is the epitome of condescension, people make decisions based on the options they see or can create, and the problem in a many communities is that there are too few of them...
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Was it Argentina that pretty much had a planned genocide that wiped out majority of its black population?
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I would have to look it up but according to one of my Mormon co workers who studied abroad, they have a significant white population there.
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this dude umar or whatever his name is, is preaching that hate. fear mongering citing religion as the bad guy. 3 million in collection plates per sunday? word?
just quick rebuttal
"they giving our money to white banks"
so which national bank is black owned? attack the ROOT of the problem
"giving out business loans for development in poor neighborhoods"
then maybe us BLACK people need to start developing our neighborhoods? Banks aren't racist. banks see dollar signs, not melanin levels.
"grandma got put out on the street with the money she donated to white jesus"
this is just stupid
i hate arguments that conveniently leave out the root of the problem. We need to stop blaming white people for our problems. NOW BY NO MEANS am i saying they dont have something to do with it. I'm saying, stop blaming them. Move forward. We black people ARE crabs in a bucket in general. We complain about hoods, but...hoods aren't hood because of the buildings. Theyre hood because of the people. A decrepit building can always be fixed. Jacked up housing can be fixed. It just isnt. The same people pissin on the sidewalks and throwing glass bottles n trash everywhere...are complaining about how nobody cares about the hood.
Let you start making some real money in that same hood. You become a target, a come up. Dudes plottin how to take yours from you. At the same time... you most likely arent even telling them how to GET their own money. Thats the root. Black people, unlike every other race....don't pass down knowledge. We dont own land so we can pass that down. We don't own resources so we cant pass that down. The money we do have, stays within our family VERY briefly.
Rectify that. If you figure out how to make money, pass that knowledge to your young brothers out there. Teach them stocks and IRAs. teach them how important saving is. Teach them how to make ur money, make money. Accumulate then pass down wealth from generation to generation so everyone gets a head start. We already KNOW scales are tipped all the way against us. The problem is, we comfortable sitting on that end of the scale pointing our fingers.
Black people need to come together and we could rise up. But until then, we'll sit around blaming everyone else for our disposition.
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Here's an article I found Lucky
Blackout: How Argentina ‘Eliminated’ Africans From Its History And Conscience.
http://m.ibtimes.com/blackout-how-argentina-eliminated-africans-its-history-conscience-1289381
Blackout: How Argentina ‘Eliminated’ Africans From Its History And Conscience.
http://m.ibtimes.com/blackout-how-argentina-eliminated-africans-its-history-conscience-1289381
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I told yall I biggest challenge exist in Latin America. They still at the point where they dont even reconigze black anything. They literally hide the blacks like we have done Native Americans. Its sickening.
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Like I been said in this thread. How blacks around the world are treated is tied in with how Africa as a continent is doing economically. As long as the continent is portrayed as being dirt poor by the media the longer black people around the world will be treated like s***
My solution is that educated blacks in the western world have to go back and develop the continent cuz whites are gonna keep raping and pillaging it
My solution is that educated blacks in the western world have to go back and develop the continent cuz whites are gonna keep raping and pillaging it
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Thing is the blacks that do go back do the same thing. Right Lucky?
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All this bro I really don't care to hear UMAR speak about much of anything anymore....I agree with a few things but most things he's saying has been said already.....Honestly he's going about it the wrong way we don't need fiery leaders we need ECONOMIC & BUSINESS LEADERS....What he's saying has be said already Hell BRAND NUBIAN raps about it in the 1st verse of the song "WAKE UP"....UMAR gonna draw too much government attention to himself check this video about COINTELPRO
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Jeff Rooda, president of police union, has on a "I Am Darren Wilson" bracelet.
This is the woman who was assaulted by Jeff Rooda. This is her injury from the president of the police association.
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I love the unity and insight this thread drops.
Keep it up bruhs!!!
Keep it up bruhs!!!
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As a spanish speaking black man living in a spanish speaking country im glad yall brought up Argentina. Hate that place for reasons evident in this thread. Chile is the same. I wish i could call em european countries because thats what they wanna be.
Latin america has a strong African influence and they want to discount that so f em.
Imagine how they treat black brazilians. I dont even wanna fathom.
Latin america has a strong African influence and they want to discount that so f em.
Imagine how they treat black brazilians. I dont even wanna fathom.
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