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Putin is preventing the US from turning syria into Libya. You can't overthrow a legitimate government and not expect there to be chaos and civil war
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Putin is preventing the US from turning syria into Libya. You can't overthrow a legitimate government and not expect there to be chaos and civil war

Terrorist groups are turning Syria into Libya.
post #63 of 79
Meanwhile, Kerry and Assad went on a double date:

post #64 of 79
Russia (and iran) are gonna do whatever they want until obama leaves office. Putin could take a **** on his desk and kerry would be sent out to talk about how we should discuss de escalation.

After that who knows what the climate will be like for the next president. It will all come to a head eventually. I don't know what WW 3 would even look like when so many countries have nukes
post #65 of 79
I like Obama but his foreign policy is not good. Putin is not hesitating to do anything.
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They don't mind waiting our political system out. Can you imagine how unstable American politics looks to the rest of the world? Too many heads are constantly changing.
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I like Obama but his foreign policy is not good. Putin is not hesitating to do anything.

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post #68 of 79
Sounds like a lebron and his imaginary rings argument. He can talk about the other side (and i get it, its politics) but he is one of thr most naive leaders we have ever had when it comes to foreign policy. Hope and optimism in a place that doesn't deserve any (middle east), a terrible trade agreement coming up, the Russian reset, the iran deal, the Bergdahl deal. What did we get out of Cuba? Thinking the arab spring was gonna bring about stability. Backing the muslim brotherhood in Egypt. Screwing the Kurds in favor of that garbage NATO partner Turkey.

Just because we aren't in more wars now doesn't mean this all isn't leading to much bigger and crazier **** as a consequence


America seems to reflexively react to things. We reacted to 9 11 with ridiculous wars based on false info. Now as a reflex to that we are going 100 percent the other way and doing absolutely nothing and letting our enemies/rivals fill the void.
post #69 of 79
Russia was doing what it wanted under GWB as well. Anyone remember when Russia invaded Georgia?
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If this man becomes President, nobody will be messing with us.

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Russia was doing what it wanted under GWB as well. Anyone remember when Russia invaded Georgia?

Of course. But noone is going to argue GWB did well with foreign policy either lol. That's a low bar.
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Of course. But noone is going to argue GWB did well with foreign policy either lol. That's a low bar.

I understand what you're saying but my point is that Putin has been doing the same things since he was "re-elected" years ago. I just don't agree with the statement that Russia will keep doing what it wants until Obama leaves office because Putin has shown that he doesn't care who is in office. Putin has been doing what he wants ever since we invaded Iraq. Putin sees himself as a counter balance to the West. Obama's foreign policy has been a complete disaster by any measure, but Putin acts as if he has nothing to lose because his approval rating is sky high based on his anti West sentiment and he understands that the US doesn't want to enter into conflicts with anyone (especially Russia) if our involvement includes deploying ground troops.
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post #73 of 79

Apparently, Russia invaded the air space of NATO member Turkey twice and NATO says that it wasn't an accident like the Russians predictably claim.

 

Unfortunately, it looks like these dudes have a hard-on for provoking.

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Nothing will happen.
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Nothing will happen.

I can only hope.
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post #76 of 79
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Russia was doing what it wanted under GWB as well. Anyone remember when Russia invaded Georgia?

that did not happen. You're parroting mainstream news bs. That '08 Daily News cover was pure propaganda. Georgia was the instigator in the conflict when it invaded Russian-backed autonomous South Ossetia region.

All in all, however, I think the nature of war has changed fundamentally since WW2. Wars can't really be "won" especially via conquest anymore. In a globalized world with internet, even world powers cannot conquer with force e.g. Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq etc. The real battles are fought via economic policies, sanctions, etc.
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TRENDING: Russian warships launch 26 missiles against #ISIS from Caspian Sea

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Is something bound to happen within the next few years?

What would America especially the Neo Conservatives in Washington do if Russia established bases in Canada and/or Mexico though with armed nuclear weapons... oh wait we already know the answer to that! JFK almost launch nukes because of the Cuban missile crisis!

I mean just look at this map and tell me how the American war machine isn't provoking Russia to defend it's borders and allies?

Even an NTer in this thread confirmed what the US is all about!
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I don’t think you guys underestimate what the US military is fully capable of. We have learned from WW1 and WW2. We will overwhelm you. Why do you think we have bases all over the world? Why do you think we are so heavy in Europe and Asia? Why do you think the Navy is refocusing manpower in Asia and Southwest Asia!

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