Is another Cold War with Russia inevitable?

Politics Posted: September 11, 2014World War 3: Russia’s Nuclear Weapons Fired, Vladimir Putin Warns U.S. Of More ‘Corresponding Countermeasures’


World War 3 is on the tips of the tongues of many, and now that Russia has fired its nuclear weapons as a show of force, Vladimir Putin is already warning the United States and NATO he believes this new Cold War 2 will cause a planned arms escalation in response to threats made over the Ukraine crisis.

In a related report by The Inquisitr, even before Russia invaded Ukraine, various U.S. investors and financial analysts were saying World War 3 is inevitable based upon history and economic cycles.

Earlier this month, Ukraine Defense Minister Valeriy Heltey claimed Russia’s nuclear weapons could be used against his country in a tactical strike if tensions continued to escalate.

“The Russian side has threatened on several occasions across unofficial channels that, in the case of continued resistance they are ready to use a tactical nuclear weapon against us.”

Lithuanian President Dalia Grybauskaite even claimed that Russia is effectively waging war against all of Europe.

“It is the fact that Russia is in a war state against Ukraine. That means it is in a state of war against a country which would like to be closely integrated with the EU. Practically Russia is in a state of war against Europe,” she said. “That means we need to help Ukraine to… defend its territory and its people and to help militarily, especially with the military materials to help Ukraine to defend itself because today Ukraine is fighting a war on behalf of all Europe.”

Unfortunately, Russia’s nuclear bombs are increasing in number, not decreasing as was previously hoped all but 10 years ago. On Wednesday, the Russian military successfully tested a Bulava intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) launched from the nuclear submarine the Vladimir Monomakh. The test nuclear missile flew from the White Sea near Russia’s border with Finland and hit its target nearly 3,500 miles away on the Kamchatka peninsula north of Japan.

Fears of World War 3 have been rising in volume throughout 2014, especially since Vladimir Putin has regularly been referencing Russia’s nuclear weapons lately.

According to Business Insider, he recently said, “Russia is one of the most powerful nuclear nations. This is a reality, not just words.” Speaking on Russia’s plan to modernize their nuclear arsenal, Putin claimed the U.S. and NATO should not be “hysterical” and said, “We have warned many times that we would have to take corresponding countermeasures to ensure our security.”

Putin plans on taking personal charge of the government commission overseeing military industries and their 2016-2025 weapons modernization program is focused on creating a “guaranteed nuclear deterrent.”

Regarding the power of these nuclear weapons, they have a range of 5,000 miles and can create an explosion 100 times larger than Hiroshima. At the same time, the Bulava intercontinental ballistic missile has suffered repeated glitches that caused launch failures. Much of Russia’s nuclear weapons capabilities were inherited from the former Soviet Union and haven’t been updated significantly, nor does Russia have an effective missile defense shield system like the United States.


Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/1467926/wo...sponding-countermeasures/#lGsClRO4Jk4kTuUy.99
 
Russia's Navy Armed and Ready in North Pole, Black Sea; Gorbachev Warns World Can't Survive Another War

Russia's military forces continue to widen its presence in the Arctic region and the Black Sea. Former Soviet Union president Mikhail Gorbachev has once again called for a dialogue between Russia and the United States to prevent a "dangerous freeze" in relations between the two countries. Gorbachev's policy had a significant role in putting an end to the first Cold War. He warned of catastrophic consequences if U.S.-Russia tensions were not diffused.


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In a commentary entitled "To Unfreeze Relations" for state daily Rossiyskaya Gazeta, the former USSR leader wrote that the brewing Cold War between the U.S. and Russia is "extremely dangerous." He added that the world may not survive through these days as one country might be provoked or lose a nerve. Gorbachev suggested that both Russian and U.S. leaders hold talks with a broad agenda.

He said leaders should not be afraid of "losing face" or think about someone winning in propaganda. Gorbachev encouraged leaders to think about the future. According to NBC News, the tensions over Ukraine had been described as the worst between Russia and the West since the first Cold War more than 20 years ago.

Meanwhile, the Russian navy has revealed plans to boost its forces in the Arctic zone and the Black Sea as Moscow focuses on widening its strategic military presence in the two regions in 15 years. Newsweek reported that Admiral Victor Chirkov, the Russian navy head officer, spoke before Russia's Marine Board and announced the strengthening the military around the North Pole and Crimea.

Chirkov believes that the role of the Arctic region between 2014 and 2030 will grow. Russia sees the need to strengthen its presence in the region to defend national interests and promote security around the Arctic.

Previous reports have indicated that Russia's territorial claim over the North Pole has led to President Vladimir Putin being at odds with Canada, Denmark, Norway and the U.S. over rights to gain access to the oil resources of the region.

The Russian navy has successfully tested its new marine ballistic missiles in November. The new missiles were launched from the Alexander Nevsky submarine in the Barrents Sea which is north of Scandinavia. Under Russia's new naval plans, Chirkov revealed that the waters around Crimea will be the "highest priority" for a longer term.

Earlier reports said neither the European Union nor the U.S. have acknowledged the annexation of Crimea from Ukraine. Despite the annexation being viewed as illegitimate, Russia has always maintained a strong naval presence in the region with the Black Sea Fleet.

Western sanctions on Russia over the Ukraine crisis are expected to last until 2017, the Moscow Times reported. Economic Development Minister Alexey Ulyukayev told the Russian View magazine that the country's economic forecast was based on assumptions that sanctions will last until the end 2017.

http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/575597/20141211/russia-black-sea-gorbachev-military.htm#.VIpHvGTF-TQ
 
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3 way cold war. US V China V Russia

Despite common communist history, China and Russia really don't get on that well.
 
i'm not buying this oil stuff. OPEC is flooding the market with oil there's so much supply out there it's stupid. i wonder what else they really want in the artic :nerd:
 
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This is just Russia demanding and showing they need to be respected as a super power, which they're not.
 
Bumping this thread, as tensions continue to get much worse. Russia is flying planes all over Syria very close to where we and our allies have military personnel. It's kind of scary that this is a legitimate possibility at this point with everything going on.



U.S.-Russia Clash In Syria: The Beginning of World War 3


With Russia admitting it is bombing U.S.-trained rebels in Syria, there is the alarming high risk of a military clash between U.S. and Russian forces over Syria’s crowded airspace.

Washington and Moscow officials make attempts to coordinate their actions in Syria to de-escalate the tense situation in the region, but these attempts have not borne fruit since Wednesday.

If officials fail to ensure that American and Russian air forces do not encounter one another during overlapping airstrikes in Syria, there is a high risk of a ‘one-thing-led-to-another’ scenario, which may unleash the World War 3.

Ever since Russia started bombing Syria on Wednesday, the Kremlin warned Washington to not fly U.S. warplanes in Syria without providing any geographical information about exact positions it planned to strike.

The U.S. refused to comply with the request and the American air campaign in Syria is continuing as usual.

The high possibility of a military clash between U.S. and Russian forces in Syria became apparent after the Pentagon confirmed Russia is not targeting exclusively ISIS targets as it claims to be.

A number of reports from U.S.-backed Syrian rebels, including groups linked to the CIA-trained Free Syrian Army, indicate that Russia targets their positions with deadly airstrikes.

The U.S. and its allies, including some Persian Gulf states are attacking areas held by ISIS militants, while Russia and the forces of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad target areas held by rebel groups, which want Assad removed from power.

Therefore, accidentally or otherwise, a clash between U.S. and Russian forces is of high possibility, which is why U.S. officials urge Moscow to coordinate their actions in Syria.

Russia and U.S. attempt to ‘deconflict’ the situation
Washington and Moscow military officials conducted a video conference to discuss pilot distress signals, language issues and other precautionary measures to reduce the risk of Russian and American aircraft encountering one another over the Syrian airspace, according to Pentagon Press Secretary Peter Cook.

“International frequencies that can be used at a time of distress…conversation between aircraft, what language would it be in…Those are some of the questions that we are trying to address…so that there isn’t a misjudgment or miscalculation in the air,” Cook told reporters on Thursday.

The talks between U.S. and Russian military officials to reach a compromise regarding next steps on deconfliction efforts will continue within the coming days, Cook added.

Cook also noted that “at this point” Washington is only reviewing proposals and is not planning to share intelligence with Moscow to avoid miscalculations as both sides conduct overlapping airstrikes in Syria.

Russia admits targeting U.S.-trained rebels in Syria
Russia carries out a second day of airstrikes in Syria, in which at least 36 people have been killed, including five women and six children, according to rebel opposition groups.

Russian aircraft began dropping bombs in Syria hours after Russian President Vladimir Putin pushed a measure through the upper house of the Russian parliament approving the use of Russian military forces abroad.

According to Russian officials, the vote came after a request by Syrian President Bashar al-Assad for military assistance in fighting ISIS targets.

However, according to numerous reports by rebel groups and U.S. surveillance, it’s not exclusively ISIS whom Russia is bombing in Syria, but also U.S.-backed rebels in coordination with the Assad regime.

And although during his talks with French president Francois Hollande, Putin insisted that Moscow was targeting exclusively ISIS in Syria, there are indications that contradict his words.

Russian defense ministry gives wrong info about positions
The Russian defense ministry issued a statement saying it hit 12 ISIS targets, but as it was later verified, it turned out that ISIS militants actually did not hold the areas, which Moscow claims were held by ISIS.

Syrian activists have been reporting that allegedly Russian airstrikes hit their camps in the north and center of Syria, including in the province of Hama, in which Russian aircraft targeted areas held by U.S.-backed rebel group called Tajamu al-Izzah.

With Putin insisting Russia carries out airstrikes exclusively against ISIS militants, his own spokesman Dmitry Peskov contradicted his words, saying that Russia was also targeting other organizations in addition to ISIS.

“These organizations are well known and the targets are chosen in coordination with the armed forces of Syria,” Peskov told the AP on Thursday.

The commander of an FSA-affiliated group confirmed Thursday that two allegedly Russian airstrikes hit a camp held by the group, which had received training from the CIA in Qatar and Saudi Arabia.

Russia-Syria-Iran-Hezbollah alliance brings us closer to the World War 3?
It was reported that hundreds of Iranian troops arrived in Syria 10 days ago along with weaponry to launch ground combat operations on rebel-held areas in the north of the country.

Lebanon’s Hezbollah, which is backed by Iran and has been fighting alongside the Assad regime since the beginning of the conflict, told Reuters on Thursday that it is preparing to join the operation as well.

“The [Russian] airstrikes will in the near future be accompanied by ground advances by the Syrian army and its allies,” said one of the sources, according to Reuters.

The planned ground combat operations alongside the Syrian army will go hand in hand with Russian airstrikes to regain the control over the Northern-Western part of Syria, which Assad’s opponents gained earlier this year.

We see an emerging alliance between Russia, Iran, Hezbollah, and the Assad regime, which will likely get other Middle Eastern countries involved into the war over Syria. And maybe not just Middle Eastern countries, which raises concerns that we are standing on the verge of the World War 3.

“The vanguard of Iranian ground forces began arriving in Syria: soldiers and officers specifically to participate in this battle. They are not advisors ... we mean hundreds with equipment and weapons. They will be followed by more,” the second source told Reuters, adding that Iraqis would also join the ground combat operation in Syria.

http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/10/u-s-russia-clash-in-syria-world-war-3/
 
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Putin is preventing the US from turning syria into Libya. You can't overthrow a legitimate government and not expect there to be chaos and civil war
 
Russia (and iran) are gonna do whatever they want until obama leaves office. Putin could take a **** on his desk and kerry would be sent out to talk about how we should discuss de escalation.

After that who knows what the climate will be like for the next president. It will all come to a head eventually. I don't know what WW 3 would even look like when so many countries have nukes
 
They don't mind waiting our political system out. Can you imagine how unstable American politics looks to the rest of the world? Too many heads are constantly changing.
 
Sounds like a lebron and his imaginary rings argument. He can talk about the other side (and i get it, its politics) but he is one of thr most naive leaders we have ever had when it comes to foreign policy. Hope and optimism in a place that doesn't deserve any (middle east), a terrible trade agreement coming up, the Russian reset, the iran deal, the Bergdahl deal. What did we get out of Cuba? Thinking the arab spring was gonna bring about stability. Backing the muslim brotherhood in Egypt. Screwing the Kurds in favor of that garbage NATO partner Turkey.

Just because we aren't in more wars now doesn't mean this all isn't leading to much bigger and crazier **** as a consequence


America seems to reflexively react to things. We reacted to 9 11 with ridiculous wars based on false info. Now as a reflex to that we are going 100 percent the other way and doing absolutely nothing and letting our enemies/rivals fill the void.
 
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Russia was doing what it wanted under GWB as well. Anyone remember when Russia invaded Georgia?

Of course. But noone is going to argue GWB did well with foreign policy either lol. That's a low bar.
 
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Of course. But noone is going to argue GWB did well with foreign policy either lol. That's a low bar.

I understand what you're saying but my point is that Putin has been doing the same things since he was "re-elected" years ago. I just don't agree with the statement that Russia will keep doing what it wants until Obama leaves office because Putin has shown that he doesn't care who is in office. Putin has been doing what he wants ever since we invaded Iraq. Putin sees himself as a counter balance to the West. Obama's foreign policy has been a complete disaster by any measure, but Putin acts as if he has nothing to lose because his approval rating is sky high based on his anti West sentiment and he understands that the US doesn't want to enter into conflicts with anyone (especially Russia) if our involvement includes deploying ground troops.
 
Apparently, Russia invaded the air space of NATO member Turkey twice and NATO says that it wasn't an accident like the Russians predictably claim.

Unfortunately, it looks like these dudes have a hard-on for provoking.
 
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