Official 2015 NFL Draft Thread

[stillin729]

this class has a nice amount of RB talent at the top

if this was 1995 you might see Gurley, Gordon, Mike Davis, Duke Johnson and Coleman all go in the 1st round

I personally really like Jay Ajayi

 

[IATT]

 

I'd trade foles, shady and two 1sts for mariota

at times, shady was our 3rd best back this season.. and there are a lot of good RBs that are going to be available in the draft, especially in the 2nd and 3rd round

what are you doing if the bucks changed their mind and took mariota? Still trading for jameis?

well, I'm not doing anything.. I'm not the GM.. just saying what I would be comfortable with

I'm not overly eager of thinking about having to potentially root for jameis.. I cant wait until kkkooper is gone (and had an extra beer on a Friday night once vick was gone)

 

[buc em]

I kinda in a way think Mariota would be a good fit with Percy, Decker, Kerley, CJ and Ivory.

We have no clue who's gonna be coaching either side of the ball though.

 

[IATT]

I kinda in a way think Mariota would be a good fit with Percy

I assume we're limiting it to just on the field

 

[jumpman91023]

I hope Devin Smith is available late in the 2nd.

 

[HNL HI]

Was curious why people are so high on him, seems like he just runs go routes. Some insight would be appreciated.

 

[scalabrine]

Was curious why people are so high on him, seems like he just runs go routes. Some insight would be appreciated.

he's just fast but he's great at reading a ball. Somewhat like DeSean jackson

 

[00david00]

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[fraij da 5 11]

Mike Brown called Mariota the best QB in CFB "by far" today on M&M.

 

[buc em]

Am I the only one that doesn't think Amari Cooper is THAT good? If you take him with a top 5 pick in the draft you're expecting him to basically come in and set the league on fire. I see him in his prime being basically Jeremy Maclin. I like Maclin...but is that what you want out of your top 5 pick when your team obviously sucks?

 

[ThaxbyChamblis]

NFP Prospect Focus: Dorial Green-Beckham

While it comes as no surprise, Oklahoma wide receiver Dorial Green-Beckham announced yesterday that he will be leaving school early and entering this spring's NFL Draft. Green-Beckham has never played a down for Oklahoma, all his play time was when he was enrolled at Missouri in 2012 and 2013. He was kicked off the Missouri football team last April and transferred to Oklahoma.

Are Green-Beckham's off-field issues behind him?
While at Missouri, the talented Green–Beckham had numerous run-ins with the law. The first was actually while I was making a school visit to Missouri in the fall of 2012. The night I was there, he had a drug-related arrest. After that original run-in, he had a second drug-related arrest, and the final straw was last spring when he was involved in a domestic violence case at an apartment complex. He was never charged, as the victim would not give full cooperation, but Missouri had enough, and he was dismissed.

Spoiler

During the summer, he transferred to Oklahoma but was not able to play after the NCAA failed to grant him a waiver on their transfer rule. His football activities this past fall were as a receiver on the scout team. Coming out of high school, Green-Beckham was rated as a 5-star recruit and some recruiting services had him rated as the top high school prospect in the country. He choose in-state Missouri over some of the top programs in the country.

Green-Beckham has rare size for a receiver at about 6050 – 230. While he has some tightness in his hips, he still is a very explosive athlete. In high school, he was a top track star and has been credited with running the 100 meters in under 10.60. He also has long jumped better than 23 feet and triple jumped 47’3.75”.
While he is very athletic, that didn’t always carry over to the football field. As a freshman, he caught 28 passes for 395 yards, but he was not considered a polished route runner. He flashed but showed no consistency. In 2013, as a sophomore, he was much better, catching 59 passes for 883 yards and 12 touchdowns.

While he showed some dominant ability, when you studied the film closely, you saw that he could be lazy with his routes when he wasn’t a primary receiver. He would run cuts and didn’t consistently finish routes. When he was the primary, you saw a different player but still not a polished route runner. He has very good hands, can adjust to poorly thrown balls and is a strong runner after the catch. He was used often as a vertical receiver and also on bubble screens. While he isn’t overly elusive as a runner he can make the first man miss and shows strength and power. He has toughness and will compete for the ball in traffic.

Because of his off field issues, he is a bit of a wild card in the draft. He is extremely talented but not in the same tier as Calvin Johnson. How he gets through the interview process will mean a lot as to where he gets drafted. Clubs will need to feel comfortable that his off-field actions are behind him. If he checks out ok, he can start early in his career as an “X” receiver. He has some natural traits that few have.

http://Nationalfootballpost.com/NFP-Prospect-Focus-Dorial-GreenBeckham.html

 

[Lunden]

Am I the only one that doesn't think Amari Cooper is THAT good? If you take him with a top 5 pick in the draft you're expecting him to basically come in and set the league on fire. I see him in his prime being basically Jeremy Maclin. I like Maclin...but is that what you want out of your top 5 pick when your team obviously sucks?

he has Julio Jones, Sammy Watkins, Kelvin Benjamin early impact about him

I would like to see the Pats give Brady a solid weapon like Amari but I know that wont happen. He fits the Pats "team" syytem he is a team kinda guy. Him MM8 and Gordon are class acts

just imagine if Brady had a elite WR like he had Moss :x

 

[buc em]

I don't think he's even close to the same talent of Julio or Sammy. And he isn't some raw, gigantic freak like Kelvin.

 

[Chester McFloppy]

I see Amari Cooper as Reggie Wayne. Could definitely help a team like Oakland and a young QB like Carrbage.

Top 5? Ehh.

 

[Lunden]

I don't think he's even close to the same talent of Julio or Sammy. And he isn't some raw, gigantic freak like Kelvin.

you dont?

I mean he basically carried that Bama team through games

will be an early impact

top 5? no. Maybe years down the road

but he is legit

 

[ThaxbyChamblis]

NFL FILMS' GREG COSELL RAVES ABOUT WINSTON

http://tam.scout.com/story/1500378-nfl-films-greg-cosell-raves-about-winston?s=70

There aren't many more critical analysts of NFL quarterbacks than NFL Films' senior producer Greg Cosell. He is as fair as they come, and usually pretty accurate. While he doesn't normally break down collegiate athletes until draft season, he analyzed two of Jameis Winston's game films, and liked what he saw.

Spoiler

There aren't many more critical analysts of NFL quarterbacks than NFL Films' senior producer Greg Cosell. He is as fair as they come, and usually pretty accurate. While he doesn't normally break down collegiate athletes until draft season, he analyzed two of Jameis Winston's game films, and liked what he saw.

Greg Cosell joined Colin Cowherd on ESPN Radio on Thursday and jumped right into Jameis Winston.

"I really liked what I saw," Cosell said of Jameis Winston. "I think he's the kid with the instincts of a pocket passer. He's strong in the pocket. He reads coverage. At times he's a little reckless and careless with his decision making, so you have to decide if that will carry over and what you can teach there. He's a confident thrower, so he'll throw it into windows."

"I thought what he really showed, it's so important as you transition to the NFL, is he (Winston) showed natural anticipation," Cosell said. "In two games I watched, I must have seen five or six really good anticipation throws before receivers came out of breaks. That's critical."

The Bucs recently hired Dirk Koetter as their new offensive coordinator. After spending the last three seasons helping Matt Ryan develop from the pocket as a quarterback, hearing Greg Cosell speak about Jameis Winston's success from the pocket makes the duo a nice match for the future of the Buccaneers.

"In the two games I watched [on film], I thought he was rather impressive," Cosell said.

Strong compliments coming from Cosell, who is very particular about the type of quarterbacks he likes.

Cosell did explain that the two games he watched were FSU's victories over Notre Dame and Louisville. It should be noted that Jameis Winston played about as poorly a 1st half as he has his entire career in that Louisville game, yet Cosell was still very impressed.

"The skill-set is clearly there. He's got potentially high level traits and attributes to play NFL quarterback," Cosell said.

The Bucs will have quite a debate on their hands over the next several months. Marcus Mariota is the quiet leader with running ability and a clean background, while Jameis Winston is the much better quarterback on the field, but has issues off the field.

 

[ThaxbyChamblis]

NFP Prospect Focus: Nelson Agholor and Stefon Diggs

In the 2014 NFL Draft, the wide receiver class was the deepest in recent memory. I had nine players with first round grades, which meant that a club who wanted a receiver was going to get a top talent in the second and maybe even third round. This year’s receiver class isn’t as deep, but there are still are some quality players.Two underclassmen who recently announced they would be entering the draft are Nelson Agholor form USC and Stefon Diggs form Maryland.

Nelson Agholor – Wide Receiver - USC

Agholor is a third-year junior. He played as a backup his true freshman year but has been a starter the last two seasons. He has gotten more productive each year and showed dominating ability this past season. In 2013, he had 56 receptions for 918 yards and six touchdowns. In 2014, his production increased to 104 receptions for 1313 yards and 12 TDs. He has also shown to return ability with 39 punt returns for 540 yards and four touchdowns over the last two seasons. As a kickoff returner he has 19 returns for 443 yards. Coming out of high school, Agholor was a 5-star recruit and was offered by every premier program in the country.

While Agholor is listed as being 6010 – 190, he looks bigger. He has a lot of length and is well built. He is an excellent athlete with great body control. He has smooth change of direction and very good speed. He will probably run in the mid to high 4.4’s at the Combine. He is a very good route runner who can make sharp cuts with a quick burst to gain separation. He does a good job using change of pace to set up a defender. He is equally effective as a long and short receiver and has excellent ability to adjust to the ball to go along with exceptional hands. He tracks the ball very well, can consistently high-point the ball, and can make the circus catch. He consistently competes for the ball in traffic and his run-after-catch skills are excellent. He can consistently turn the short catch into a long gain.

I can see Agholor being drafted very high (assuming he runs well) and he will start early in his career. I can see him becoming a team’s number one receiver in short order. He also has the return skills to be a club's top punt returner.

Stefon Diggs – Wide receiver – Maryland

Diggs is a third-year junior, and like Agholor, he was a 5-star recruit coming out of high school and had his pick of the best programs in the country. He is from the Baltimore area and chose to stay home and attend Maryland. He made an impact right away as a freshman with 54 receptions for 848 yards and six touchdowns. He also returned kickoffs and punts as a freshman and had two kickoff returns for TD’s. In 2013 he got off to a great start with 34 receptions for 587 yards and three touchdowns before missing the final six games with a leg injury. In 2014, he again missed three games but still caught 62 passes for 792 yards and five touchdowns. While he didn’t return punts, he had 20 kickoff returns for 478 yards.

Diggs is listed as being 6000 – 190. While he looks 190, he seems a little shorter than 6’0”. Still, he is well built and strong. He is a quick athlete with very good body control. He has quick change of direction with a burst. I don’t see a burner, but he has good play speed. I would estimate he will run in the 4.50 range.
Diggs lines up all over and is a good route runner. He is a nimble cutter who can get in and out of his cuts instananeously. He is a good, but not great, route runner. He gets separation because of his quickness.

He has good hands and can make the acrobatic catch. He adjusts to the ball very well but will body catch some. After the catch, he is a very good runner who is quick and elusive but not powerful. He will compete for the ball in traffic and shows good toughness.

Overall, I see Diggs as more of a slot receiver, but he can line up outside. I don’t see him as being as good or as explosive as say a Brandin Cooks (New Orleans), but he has the talent to play early in his career. He is more of a mid-second round player depending on how he runs. While he has return skills, I don’t see him having the return skills to be a club's top returner. He would be a serviceable backup in that area.

 

[HNL HI]

I see Amari Cooper as Reggie Wayne. Could definitely help a team like Oakland and a young QB like Carrbage.

Top 5? Ehh.

we aint had receivers since Tim Brown and Jerry, i'll take Reggie Wayne type.

 

[scalabrine]

Agholor> diggs. I think Ameer Abdullah is going to be steal for whatever team gets him

 

[CP1708]

Is Yeldon gonna be Trent 2.0? Seems to be the consensus.

 

[buc em]

The Raiders do need a good young receiver bad. I wouldn't fault them in reaching for one.

 

[buc em]

How do you guys feel about Denzel Perryman and Benardrick McKinney? Bucs might need a new MLB with Mason Foster being a free agent.

 

[scalabrine]

The Raiders do need a good young receiver bad. I wouldn't fault them in reaching for one.

plenty to choose from. Amari, devante parker, kevin white, jaelan strong, agholor, Devon smith, ty Montgomery,etc

Devante parker or jaelan strong

 

[buc em]

After this past year's receiving class I just look at this one as being weak as hell

Last year's had like 5 potential superstars (Sammy, OBJ, Evans, Cooks, Kelvin)

 

[HNL HI]

The Raiders do need a good young receiver bad. I wouldn't fault them in reaching for one.

They probably don't take one until the 3rd, based on Reggies past drafts.