Gentrification

Man, this video takes me back. I was in a public park in San Francisco playing basketball with some kids(12-15) and about ten adults come up and say they're going to run full court. Now we were shooting on one side when they said this. Me being the oldest, about 21 at the time with hops for days :lol:, told dude that he couldn't just kick kids off of a court because they wanted to play. We went back and forth for a minute until I suggested that he get five and I take four of the kids and we play together. We beat the breaks off of them with the kids heckling them constantly. 13 year olds can be some creative :rofl: After it was over, tail tucked firmly between his legs, dude came up and asked if we would allow them to play against each other for one game. We obliged and everyone was satisfied. There's always a right way and a wrong way to do things.
 
air4life said:
Man, this video takes me back. I was in a public park in San Francisco playing basketball with some kids(12-15) and about ten adults come up and say they're going to run full court. Now we were shooting on one side when they said this. Me being the oldest, about 21 at the time with hops for days :lol:, told dude that he couldn't just kick kids off of a court because they wanted to play. We went back and forth for a minute until I suggested that he get five and I take four of the kids and we play together. We beat the breaks off of them with the kids heckling them constantly. 13 year olds can be some creative :rofl: After it was over, tail tucked firmly between his legs, dude came up and asked if we would allow them to play against each other for one game. We obliged and everyone was satisfied. There's always a right way and a wrong way to do things.
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brah what park was this at?
 
nom de guerre said:
Those dudes need to get over themselves. Kids playing soccer and you gonna run up saying this is our time we paid for it :lol:
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thats exactly what got me heated...kids are telling them to get their 7 and theyll play them. techies wanna play grab as all day, damn betas.
 
friscostylez said:
brah what park was this at?
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You're going to have to help me because this was in '98. I lived in the sunset district. It was a school playground that was up eighth avenue going away from Parnassus. I have no idea what the name of the school was/is.
 
air4life said:
Man, this video takes me back. I was in a public park in San Francisco playing basketball with some kids(12-15) and about ten adults come up and say they're going to run full court. Now we were shooting on one side when they said this. Me being the oldest, about 21 at the time with hops for days :lol:, told dude that he couldn't just kick kids off of a court because they wanted to play. We went back and forth for a minute until I suggested that he get five and I take four of the kids and we play together. We beat the breaks off of them with the kids heckling them constantly. 13 year olds can be some creative :rofl: After it was over, tail tucked firmly between his legs, dude came up and asked if we would allow them to play against each other for one game. We obliged and everyone was satisfied. There's always a right way and a wrong way to do things.
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Dudes would do that at the court near me growing up, but they wouldn't tell you they're about to run full court; they would just start playing and you'd get run over if your still there. These were real hood dudes too. They would shoot dice in the middle of the court so we'd be confined to playing half-court if they were there.
 
ShotsRangOut said:
If serious, you need to relax
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He did nothing wrong. The other guy tried to play him for a sucker and cut him and he checked him. Sometimes you need to check a person trying to pull some funny stuff.

And besides no waiters tips were stolen in the process, so all is swell in the neighborhood
 
PanaRicanRetro said:
Sad to see this. Difference is people are way more polite in San Fran. That would have been a Worldstar video if dudes walked up to Rucker Park or even the West 4th st courts talking about reserving on an app.
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I was just thinking this...people know exactly who to mess with when pulling **** like this. There are certain areas where this wouldn't fly.
 
How does the city allow the PUBLIC park to get rented out in the first place? No way kids are coming up with 27 bucks to play on the monkey bars
 
Pdino said:
How does the city allow the PUBLIC park to get rented out in the first place? No way kids are coming up with 27 bucks to play on the monkey bars
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exactly why they pulled that nonsense with kids...aint no way in hell im getting off a public neighborhood park bc some outsiders talking bout they rented out this spot. :lol:
 
Where's Spike Lee when you need him?? Its the same way here in New Orleans. Once Katrina hit , these yuppies came flooding in this city. Buying up everything in sight. Pretty soon the whole face of the city is going to change and only the people that can afford to live here will be here.
 
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Issue is with the city, not the dropbox bros. It's not like they came to some random park and tried to kick kids off the field. DB bros maybe could have handled it a little better, but people should have beef with the city trying to rent out a public park rather than dudes who thought they were doing the right thing by reserving the court.
 
Pdino said:
How does the city allow the PUBLIC park to get rented out in the first place? No way kids are coming up with 27 bucks to play on the monkey bars
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Well, first of all, cities have been doing this for decades. And, while cities may be more cash strapped than in the past, this isn't some new concept meant to screw some segment of the population.

Second, your example is pretty terrible. Monkey bars (and play structures in general) are low maintenance, outside of tightening a few screws here and there. They don't need lighting, and all they do is toss some wood chips down and call it a day. You know what is high maintenance, though? Soccer and baseball fields, tennis courts, etc. Maintaining surfaces, turning powerful lights on at night, etc. How do you think the city helps pay for field maintenance and staff? Through field and facilities rentals.

Example: Every night in Seattle there are multiple soccer games in various recreational leagues on every field in the city. Over the last 15 years, all those soccer fields were rebuilt as turf fields thanks to bond measures, but that only supported the building of the fields. Not maintenance. The fields are all reserved well in advance specifically for that use, and literally every night (and during the day in the fall for youth soccer, and in the spring for lacrosse, etc.). Without rentals, those leagues wouldn't have any guaranteed place to play, and the fields would fall apart from use by all the random Schmoes who show up.
 
dmbrhs said:
Well, first of all, cities have been doing this for decades. And, while cities may be more cash strapped than in the past, this isn't some new concept meant to screw some segment of the population.

Second, your example is pretty terrible. Monkey bars (and play structures in general) are low maintenance, outside of tightening a few screws here and there. They don't need lighting, and all they do is toss some wood chips down and call it a day. You know what is high maintenance, though? Soccer and baseball fields, tennis courts, etc. Maintaining surfaces, turning powerful lights on at night, etc. How do you think the city helps pay for field maintenance and staff? Through field and facilities rentals.

Example: Every night in Seattle there are multiple soccer games in various recreational leagues on every field in the city. Over the last 15 years, all those soccer fields were rebuilt as turf fields thanks to bond measures, but that only supported the building of the fields. Not maintenance. The fields are all reserved well in advance specifically for that use, and literally every night (and during the day in the fall for youth soccer, and in the spring for lacrosse, etc.). Without rentals, those leagues wouldn't have any guaranteed place to play, and the fields would fall apart from use by all the random Schmoes who show up.
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Renting out parts of city parks isn't anything new, but usually when the city is going to reserve an otherwise public city facility or space for something, signs are posted in advance and the area is sectioned off or taped the day of. It's usually not this last minute business of you pay and show up with a piece of paper, shove it in the face of a group of kids and say "Mine now!" It just continues to promote a culture that only serves a specific demographic and further enables them to reap the benefits of a low cost area and claim it as their own. I was having this convo earlier, gentrification doesn't always have to be bad for the existing community but they keep turning every area into something that's just for them.
 
WillzWay26 said:
^^^^^^^^  Wouldnt the leagues fees pay for the field maintenance tho
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In a round about way, sure. The city maintains the field with its own staff though. That's why the usage fee goes to the city, and they apportion it out for maintenance and staff. another example of parks fees is "open" gym in Seattle. Wanna play basketball at open gym? Pay $2. Been that way for at least a decade now. And that's EVERY gym. Doesn't matter what neighborhood.

The system works: the people that use the field pay for its upkeep. There really isn't a better system.

The alternative is allowing the fields to be a free-for-all with literally no outside money (from users) coming in to help maintain them.
 
PanaRicanRetro said:
Renting out parts of city parks isn't anything new, but usually when the city is going to reserve an otherwise public city facility or space for something, signs are posted in advance and the area is sectioned off or taped the day of. It's usually not this last minute business of you pay and show up with a piece of paper, shove it in the face of a group of kids and say "Mine now!" It just continues to promote a culture that only serves a specific demographic and further enables them to reap the benefits of a low cost area and claim it as their own. I was having this convo earlier, gentrification doesn't always have to be bad for the existing community but they keep turning every area into something that's just for them.
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For big events, or places with popular picnic shelters, there will be extra signage. For a random soccer game on a Wednesday night, there's no signage. I played for years on the fields around here. I think the only warning is the (permanent) rules sign that says any group with a reservation holds the right to use the field during an allotted time 9or something to that effect). Hell, I think the signs even have the reservation phone number on them. But it's understood around here that organized soccer has field rights every night. And nobody has a problem with it.
 
It's our comeupance.

Those who could ran to the suburbs to inch up under white folks and now that many yuppies are moving back into the city in poorer areas in houses they used to own people are mad.

Its the fault of our parents.  Now we must pay the price.
 
Wow :lol: :smh:

IMO you only pull that booking a park bs when the ppl from the old neighborhood are already forced to leave.

This would not have flied in the parks around my way. Talking about they paid to reserve the court or w/e :lol: Would've ripped that paper up, washed them dudes, and they probably would've got robbed.
 
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