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youngwolf said:
I mean, why can't it be a career tho? And that's really dependent on how you define a career.

A Costco employee that started the same day that you started at champs, only makes $137 less a month than you today. When you factor in the cost required to attain your degree and the benefits the Costco employee is getting, that $137 monthly gap becomes even more insignificant. But you'd be hard pressed to find anyone that considers working at Costco as a career.
And this is what it comes down to. People don't realize that raising the lowest level raises all the levels.
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Do you know what happens to an area where people start having more money? The price of milk rises, and by milk, I mean everything.
 
TimShepard said:
Ever seen that short documentary about robots replacing jobs? It's possible for any position, don't be fooled.
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This. Wait til it starts to hit "skilled" labor. That's when its too late and those on their high horse will be like "aren't we all humans", shouldve been there helping the cause instead of ****** on your fellow man and licking the boots of the rich.

Hypocrisy at its finest.

Its happening in the pharmaceutical industry.
 
rillo561 said:
TimShepard said:
Ever seen that short documentary about robots replacing jobs? It's possible for any position, don't be fooled.
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This. Wait til it starts to hit "skilled" labor. That's when its too late and those on their high horse will be like "aren't we all humans", shouldve been there helping the cause instead of ****** on your fellow man and licking the boots of the rich.

Hypocrisy at its finest.

Its happening in the pharmaceutical industry.
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They're in the works to create a robot for hospitals that will diagnose you "quicker" and more "efficient" than nurses. Less work for doctors I suppose. Then there's no work for doctors. Wake up to Bicentennial Man doing open heart surgery on you.

But yes, people think there are no ways their job can be replaced. Anything is possible. Technology is way too advanced. I've always said that. Always giving us things we didn't need. Even then they gave us more and more and more. Oh well, at least we can all still do porn!
 
sckid20 said:
Robots dont need tips.
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Start a new thread just for this PLEASE 
 
Rico x Hood said:
youngwolf said:
I mean, why can't it be a career tho? And that's really dependent on how you define a career.

A Costco employee that started the same day that you started at champs, only makes $137 less a month than you today. When you factor in the cost required to attain your degree and the benefits the Costco employee is getting, that $137 monthly gap becomes even more insignificant. But you'd be hard pressed to find anyone that considers working at Costco as a career.
And this is what it comes down to. People don't realize that raising the lowest level raises all the levels.
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Do you know what happens to an area where people start having more money? The price of milk rises, and by milk, I mean everything.
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Yea, but the rise in price will not be as significant as people tend to believe. Items that are cheap will remain cheap, and items that are expensive will remain expensive.

For instance, raising minimum wage to $10.50 would raise McDonalds items 1 cent across the board. Doubling the minimum wage to $15 would raise the price of a Big Mac by 69 cents.
 
Going 7 a hour to 15 a hour is unreasonable.

I think providing those workers with better benefits and better opportunities to move up the ladder would be more beneficial.

In regards to robots replacing the work force, if everyone become unemployed. Where would the profit made? I wonder how much it cost to make said robot and maintenance it compared to paying a human salary and benefits? I don't think it's realistic.
 
youngwolf said:
Yea, but the rise in price will not be as significant as people tend to believe. Items that are cheap will remain cheap, and items that are expensive will remain expensive.

For instance, raising minimum wage to $10.50 would raise McDonalds items 1 cent across the board. Doubling the minimum wage to $15 would raise the price of a Big Mac by 69 cents.
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Who are you or anyone to say what a significant rise is? That is 100% relative. This whole conversation is about low skilled, low wage workers, I think any increase in price would be considered significant. Especially on staple items like milk,bread, and toilet paper.
 
youngwolf said:
Yea, but the rise in price will not be as significant as people tend to believe. Items that are cheap will remain cheap, and items that are expensive will remain expensive.

For instance, raising minimum wage to $10.50 would raise McDonalds items 1 cent across the board. Doubling the minimum wage to $15 would raise the price of a Big Mac by 69 cents.
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Do you remember when McDonald's had 25¢ hamburgers? What are they now? People buy into this myth of the $10 happy meal because the "non-skilled" want a pay raise, all the while they are raising prices regardless, while still keep the labor cost down. It's only "class warfare" and "wealth distribution" when the poor ask for a raise.
 
Companies can afford to pay their full time workers higher wages... They just choose not to.

No one thinks they should be able to buy a 4 bedroom house and support a family of 5 by working at McDonald's... Full-time workers just want to be able to keep the lights on.

These same people are receiving assistance for the government...
 
Work 40+ hours and still qualify for public assistance.... That's a problem, and as a taxpayer, we should demand more accountability. Corporations have gotten nothing but tax breaks, it's time to stop the BS and strawmen arguments.

The $15 an hour is just a negotiation tactic, nothing more.
 
Dude said 1 cent across every item on the menus like MCDs ain't kicking out billions of items in a year.

.01 for each item would have a profound impact
 
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finnns2003 said:
Do you? Since when was burger flipping meant to be a career? Cost of living my #%@, this isn't meant to be a job for people paying rent.
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Of course it's not supposed to be a career. The fact is that more part time jobs are being created than full time.
Kal-El-8 said:
 
Like the person said above, these aren't meant to be careers, and those who do make it a career, work really really hard to move up in the company quickly.

My first job I was paid 6/hr at Champs.

I got 1% commision and incentive pay for selling cleaners and insoles. It was enough at 16 yrs old to not ask my parents for spending money. I then left champs and went to wells fargo to be a teller for 10/hr. Then I got an intership for 12/hr. 

Now, at 22. I just got my b.a. My pay was raised to 45,000. I don't make bank. I live a modest life by working hard.

you can easily work as a cashier at mcdonalds, gain enough skills, and apply to be a teller, from teller you can move up.

It should be a stop gap, not a goddamn career.
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What makes you think these people aren't working hard?
rillo561 said:
Work 40+ hours and still qualify for public assistance.... That's a problem, and as a taxpayer, we should demand more accountability. Corporations have gotten nothing but tax breaks, it's time to stop the BS and strawmen arguments.

The $15 an hour is just a negotiation tactic, nothing more.
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Been saying this but people don't want to hear it. If I'm asking for more money, why will I start low? At most, they'll get like $12.
 
Rico x Hood said:
youngwolf said:
Yea, but the rise in price will not be as significant as people tend to believe. Items that are cheap will remain cheap, and items that are expensive will remain expensive.

For instance, raising minimum wage to $10.50 would raise McDonalds items 1 cent across the board. Doubling the minimum wage to $15 would raise the price of a Big Mac by 69 cents.
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Who are you or anyone to say what a significant rise is? That is 100% relative. This whole conversation is about low skilled, low wage workers, I think any increase in price would be considered significant. Especially on staple items like milk,bread, and toilet paper.
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You're right, significance is relative. That's my mistake.


rillo561 said:
youngwolf said:
Yea, but the rise in price will not be as significant as people tend to believe. Items that are cheap will remain cheap, and items that are expensive will remain expensive.

For instance, raising minimum wage to $10.50 would raise McDonalds items 1 cent across the board. Doubling the minimum wage to $15 would raise the price of a Big Mac by 69 cents.
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Do you remember when McDonald's had 25¢ hamburgers? What are they now? People buy into this myth of the $10 happy meal because the "non-skilled" want a pay raise, all the while they are raising prices regardless, while still keep the labor cost down. It's only "class warfare" and "wealth distribution" when the poor ask for a raise.
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Pretty much.
 
Kal-El-8 said:
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Kal-El-8 said:
Nah b.




I'm glad though, tired of these people asking for 15/hr flipping burgers.


Ridiculous.
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A couple of questions for you. Do you truly understand the economics regarding the cost of living? If you claim yes, where did you receive this education on the issue?
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If a machine can do it, why the hell would businesses give 15/hr? Honestly what incentive do they have?


I have a bachelors in economics ***** boy.
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:lol:

People asking for more money over basic jobs that can be done through technology for the fraction of the cost (after initial investment) is saving companies tons of money. Also, benefits cost a company a ton a money, last time I checked iPads and robots don't need benefits, vacations, or 401k.

What doesn't help is that some states are very pro-employee. Bunch of people go on bs leaves of absence (where the company is still paying their salary and can't hire a replacement because if/when they come back, you have an extra worker you can't just lay off) or other random HR issues from people cheating the system. I don't mind a legit HR issue, but most of them are bs and people know how to run the system
 
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BLASTERCOMBO said:
Meh, a bachelors degree is the equivalent of a HS diploma now. Nothing special about them anymore. Masters or bust. ..... Or be a chick with huge chi chi's
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Like I said, meaningful.

If you go for 4-5 years just to end up with a history, sociology, psychology, literature, women's studies, a foreign language, etc. I do not feel bad for you when you can't find work above $14-15/hr right out of school. Go back for your masters, law degree, MBA, etc to add more value to your resume. A practical undergrad degree (engineering, science, accounting/finance, culinary) makes way more sense financially and you can demand a higher salary especially if you are willing to relocate.

It's hard to get good, practical experience without a degree and full time dedication. Internships are great but mostly underpaid or not paid at all.
 
I just saw a guy who was on the New Orleans Saints training camp in July apply to a 30 hour teller position.

The struggle is real folks
 
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