Thirsty NY Street Cats vol. Is it cause I'm ugly?!

bilboshmangins said:
i think you answered your own question. If you want to "holla" go to the right venues (club, party, etc), maybe the behavior in the streets needs to be different.
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I didnt answer my own question and I said I dont want to go to bars or clubs because I dont want to buy $16 drinks for someone with no interest in me, other than getting those drinks. And if that's okay, most of what was on that 2 min video was okay.
 
sunshineblotters said:
 
bilboshmangins said:
i think you answered your own question. If you want to "holla" go to the right venues (club, party, etc), maybe the behavior in the streets needs to be different.
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I didnt answer my own question and I said I dont want to go to bars or clubs because I dont want to buy $16 drinks for someone with no interest in me, other than getting those drinks. And if that's okay, most of what was on that 2 min video was okay.
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girls generally say that they are inconvenienced by it, why force your/our standard on them. That's the definition of harassment "hey I know you don't like this but I'm still going to do it".
 
I mentioned,what do you think is the purpose of the greeting even if it's a Hi from these men? It usually leads up to more aggressive behaviour when it is completely unwarranted attention.

It’s not flattery or complimentary – it’s harassment. Street harassment, to use the official term. And the thing about street harassment is that it is not meant to be a compliment, but, in fact, an aggressive assertion of male dominance by dehumanizing and hypersexualizing someone.

These men are calling her beautiful is seen as complimentary, when in fact, a woman can be insulted within 30 seconds of being called beautiful, just because that person didn't respond to the initial "compliment" in a way that satisfied the catcaller.What shifts a catcall from innocent and fleeting attraction to objectification in its purest form is the decision to act on it. A catcall reveals a disregard for the woman's humanity, the possibility of her discomfort or irritation or fear, and signals that a woman is nothing more than her body or the ways in which she chooses to dress it.

By catcalling, harassers insert themselves into the personal space of the harassed: during her commute, her daily jog, her walk to brunch. This puts unwilling women on the defensive on a daily basis, where ignoring the comments isn't seen as an absence of a reaction but instead a transgression, or justification for more verbal assaults.

It's disrespectful,offensive, invasive, and how is any of that complimentary?
 
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^Alright, but that's about 40 seconds of this video. She walked around for 10 hours and "Have a nice evening" was one of the worst cases of "harassment" she could find :rofl:
 
Me Love Nutella said:
I mentioned,what do you think is the purpose of the greeting even if it's a Hi from these men? It usually leads up to more aggressive behaviour when it is completely unwarranted attention.

It’s not flattery or complimentary – it’s harassment. Street harassment, to use the official term. And the thing about street harassment is that it is not meant to be a compliment, but, in fact, an aggressive assertion of male dominance by dehumanizing and hypersexualizing someone.

These men are calling her beautiful is seen as complementary, when in fact, a woman can be insulted within 30 seconds of being called beautiful, just because that person didn't respond to the initial "compliment" in a way that satisfied the catcaller.What shifts a catcall from innocent and fleeting attraction to objectification in its purest form is the decision to act on it. A catcall reveals a disregard for the woman's humanity, the possibility of her discomfort or irritation or fear, and signals that a woman is nothing more than her body or the ways in which she chooses to dress it.

By catcalling, harassers insert themselves into the personal space of the harassed: during her commute, her daily jog, her walk to brunch. This puts unwilling women on the defensive on a daily basis, where ignoring the comments isn't seen as an absence of a reaction but instead a transgression, or justification for more verbal assaults.

It's disrespectful,offensive, invasive, and how is any of that complimentary?
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So just in general.. without talking about 'these men' in particular, any kind of greeting to a women who is otherwise occupied is offensive because it automatically puts her in a defensive position and possibly makes her feel unsafe?
 
Meek Meals said:
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Black guys can complain about a lot of **** when it comes to how the media portrays us, but looks aint one of them. Dark or light. in terms of sex appeal we are way up there with how hollywood portrays us.
 
sunshineblotters said:
 
Meek Meals said:
 
Ladies love Darkskin dudes, since Drake making all lightskins look like emotionally unstable booty munchers who get domed with their toes in the air.​
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Black guys can complain about a lot of **** when it comes to how the media portrays us, but looks aint one of them. Dark or light. in terms of sex appeal we are way up there with how hollywood portrays us.
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it was just a joke.
 
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Nobody gonna hire her because they'll fear a harrassment lawsuit. I mean if you as sensative as this to call saying "hi" harassment, she would hate ANY job.
 
sunshineblotters said:
^Alright, but that's about 40 seconds of this video. She walked around for 10 hours and "Have a nice evening" was one of the worst cases of "harassment" she could find :rofl:
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Did you not watch the video? Guys saying damn, whistling, winks, and the dude walking creepily next to her for 5 minutes is not bad?

While some men might consider thisan unwarranted hi greeting as a compliment, to many women it is a threat.And what may sound like a harmless 'hello beautiful' to some, can be threatening to a woman trapped on a train for example - regardless of how busy it is. It is men who think they are entitled to cat-call as a form of submissiveness and sexualization of the woman. Control.It can make women feel violated, uncomfortable, powerless, scared, and helpless.

Just know that a lot of simple hi and other cat-calls when unwarranted can escalate violently very quickly.
 
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UrBetterthenME said:
Nobody gonna hire her because they'll fear a harrassment lawsuit. I mean if you as sensative as this to call saying "hi" harassment, she would hate ANY job.
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We all know what it is. If I understand her personal yt, she's an aspiring actress? Someone will bite.
 
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At the end of the day I guess I have a different definition of harassment then some people.

You can encounter bad people anywhere, a dude buying a girl can easily spike her drink, some drunk driver can drive into you while your walking, you can be in the wrong place at the wrong time for so many different things that being stopped in the street is minimal if the person comes correct. The charming guy she meets at Barnes and noble could easily be a ted bundy and she has no clue because he approached her in what she deemed a more "appropriate" setting but acted way different once he gained her trust.

End of the day, its alot of stuff we don't have control over and constantly living in fear isn't a good look. I brought up the online dating argument which has become more commonly accepted these days. There's so many potential wolves in sheeps clothing out there but are we supposed to live in constant fear?

For the what if that was your mother or sister talk, If someone approached them and they made it clear they weren't interested and that dude gets the point and keeps it moving there's nothing wrong. If he keeps persisting then he should be checked.

End of the day, if you see a beautiful lady walking on the street, on the subway, at the grocery store or wherever and your interested in her and got the balls to approach her, shes fair game. You might successfully bag that and who knows what comes out of that either short term or long term. If she shuts you down, you say no hard feelings and keep it moving and she should be able to do just that as well.

A man who has the ability to approach a woman in a respectful manner shouldn't be c blocked by some feminists who want to turn even the slightest things into 'harassment'

Guarantee alot of people's parents met through what some of those feminists would define as "street harassment".

Hell that term is so vague and I feel its making light of women who really are harassed by grouping reaching on the intent of "hello" and putting it on the same level as real harassment.
 
Me Love Nutella said:
Did you not watch the video? Guys saying damn, whistling, winks, and the dude walking creepily next to her for 5 minutes is not bad?
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Did YOU not watch the video? One guy bumped into her. Clearly accidentally, and said have a nice evening. THAT made the cut? She needs to **** outta here with her 1st world problems if she condensed 10 hours into two mins and THAT made the cut.
 
As I Black man I have more reason be fearful walking anywhere simply because I am a black man or because of the garment I choose to wear. She fears saying hi back will lead to them talking to her more. I'm worried if I fit the description of another black man wearing a t-shirt and jeans, leading me to be held at gun point by police officers and shot with my hands up.
 
RobinVanDamn said:
So just in general.. without talking about 'these men' in particular, any kind of greeting to a women who is otherwise occupied is offensive because it automatically puts her in a defensive position and possibly makes her feel unsafe?
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No. It depends on many factors. What is the purpose of the hi being said to me when it's unwarranted? Because I am looked at as as piece of meat and he's trying to bag me in bed? Sometimes we get a 6th sense. It is about how it makes us feel depending on the circumstances, setting, and situation.
 
sunshineblotters said:
 
bilboshmangins said:
it was just a joke.
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Thanks Sherlock. Do you want your check mailed to you or should I drop it off at Baker's Street?
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sure, if you can drop it off in the afternoon that'd be great...
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silkboi said:
As I Black man I have more reason be fearful walking anywhere simply because I am a black man or because of the garment I choose to wear. She fears saying hi back will lead to them talking to her more. I'm worried if I fit the description of another black man wearing a t-shirt and jeans, leading me to be held at gun point by police officers and shot with my hands up.
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that's an argument for another thread though.
 
Cedric Ceballos said:
At the end of the day I guess I have a different definition of harassment then some people.

You can encounter bad people anywhere, a dude buying a girl can easily spike her drink, some drunk driver can drive into you while your walking, you can be in the wrong place at the wrong time for so many different things that being stopped in the street is minimal if the person comes correct. The charming guy she meets at Barnes and noble could easily be a ted bundy and she has no clue because he approached her in what she deemed a more "appropriate" setting but acted way different once he gained her trust.

End of the day, its alot of stuff we don't have control over and constantly living in fear isn't a good look. I brought up the online dating argument which has become more commonly accepted these days. There's so many potential wolves in sheeps clothing out there but are we supposed to live in constant fear?

For the what if that was your mother or sister talk, If someone approached them and they made it clear they weren't interested and that dude gets the point and keeps it moving there's nothing wrong. If he keeps persisting then he should be checked.

End of the day, if you see a beautiful lady walking on the street, on the subway, at the grocery store or wherever and your interested in her and got the balls to approach her, shes fair game. You might successfully bag that and who knows what comes out of that either short term or long term. If she shuts you down, you say no hard feelings and keep it moving and she should be able to do just that as well.

A man who has the ability to approach a woman in a respectful manner shouldn't be c blocked by some feminists who want to turn even the slightest things into 'harassment'

Guarantee alot of people's parents met through what some of those feminists would define as "street harassment".

Hell that term is so vague and I feel its making light of women who really are harassed by grouping reaching on the intent of "hello" and putting it on the same level as real harassment.
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Agree with this.
 

Almost everyone bursted out laughing and took the compliment and continued with their day. Only the bleach blonde guy seemed uncomfortable and maybe the asian guy with the dog.

"Shoe on the other foot". That would imply that they know for a fact that those guys catcalled.

This video proved the opposite of what it was intended to prove and I am sure this is the worst reactions they could find w/in the hours they were conducting this experiment :lol:
 
Me Love Nutella said:
 
Cedric Ceballos said:
At the end of the day I guess I have a different definition of harassment then some people.

You can encounter bad people anywhere, a dude buying a girl can easily spike her drink, some drunk driver can drive into you while your walking, you can be in the wrong place at the wrong time for so many different things that being stopped in the street is minimal if the person comes correct. The charming guy she meets at Barnes and noble could easily be a ted bundy and she has no clue because he approached her in what she deemed a more "appropriate" setting but acted way different once he gained her trust.

End of the day, its alot of stuff we don't have control over and constantly living in fear isn't a good look. I brought up the online dating argument which has become more commonly accepted these days. There's so many potential wolves in sheeps clothing out there but are we supposed to live in constant fear?

For the what if that was your mother or sister talk, If someone approached them and they made it clear they weren't interested and that dude gets the point and keeps it moving there's nothing wrong. If he keeps persisting then he should be checked.

End of the day, if you see a beautiful lady walking on the street, on the subway, at the grocery store or wherever and your interested in her and got the balls to approach her, shes fair game. You might successfully bag that and who knows what comes out of that either short term or long term. If she shuts you down, you say no hard feelings and keep it moving and she should be able to do just that as well.

A man who has the ability to approach a woman in a respectful manner shouldn't be c blocked by some feminists who want to turn even the slightest things into 'harassment'

Guarantee alot of people's parents met through what some of those feminists would define as "street harassment".

Hell that term is so vague and I feel its making light of women who really are harassed by grouping reaching on the intent of "hello" and putting it on the same level as real harassment.
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Agree with this.
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That's a part that a lot of people are missing. A "greeting" or "compliment" isn't always respectful. The idea is to be respectful! An respect the venue.

Additionally feminists should not try to push for some sort of legislation to  limit catcalling, because that opens up a can of worms. Men should just be alert to being more respectful.
 
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sunshineblotters said:
 Almost everyone bursted out laughing and took the compliment and continued with their day. Only the bleach blonde guy seemed uncomfortable and maybe the asian guy with the dog.

"Shoe on the other foot". That would imply that they know for a fact that those guys catcalled.

This video proved the opposite of what it was intended to prove and I am sure this is the worst reactions they could find w/in the hours they were conducting this experiment
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it wasn't an experiment it was a prank. Because scantily clad construction workers doing no work, actually exist.

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**Jackie Chain @1:46
 
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