Florida officer shot and killed Sunday morning

People comparing joining the police force to being a part of the nazis genocide against jews is so ignorant and stupid you just prove yourself as someone who can't have a logical argument.
 
People comparing joining the police force to being a part of the nazis genocide against jews is so ignorant and stupid you just prove yourself as someone who can't have a logical argument.

Unfortunately that's how it here on niketalk lately, stupidity and ignorance run wild here
 
For real. The extremist views (from both ends of the spectrum) and the ways they're so hatefully said has completely discouraged me from going into new threads on General lately. Everything's a race war and it doesn't need to be like that if you consider yourself an adult who can express themselves without hate or ridiculous generalizations.
 
I sincerely hope all of the folks that pool all cops into the bad cop category never seek the assistance of the police. If you sincerely hate all cops, never call on one to risk their life for yourself or a person you hold dear.

I'd argue the majority of cops don't want any trouble whatsoever, much like @Fontaine  said.
 
For real. The extremist views (from both ends of the spectrum) and the ways they're so hatefully said has completely discouraged me from going into new threads on General lately. Everything's a race war and it doesn't need to be like that if you consider yourself an adult who can express themselves without hate or ridiculous generalizations.

Couldn't of said it better myself man

I used to love general but lately every topic becomes in some way about race and it's just stupid, I get a headache just reading half of the crap I read on here
 
Where do you live if I may ask?

Texas.

I'm in the most conservative leaning city in a conservative state. Lol (Dallas)


or the union...

Blue shield extends far beyond that.

The union doesn't help you when you're cheating on your wife, extorting people for money, or using excessive violence.

Bit what does help is another cop vouching for you.

That's why bad cops effect all cops... Because when the 15% messes up or uses their power too much... The 85% is obligated to stick up for them...

And the thing is... The older generation of cops are so steep in tradition... That they dont care how bad a crime by a cop is sometimes...

They have politics they deal with too...

Watch "The Wire"... It is a VERY real interpretation of how cops are...

They have to cook the books for funding, promote and deal with politics, and deal with the Blue Shield of Conduct...

Dead srs
 
People comparing joining the police force to being a part of the nazis genocide against jews is so ignorant and stupid you just prove yourself as someone who can't have a logical argument.
It seems like you pride yourself in being an adult and being capable of engaging in a logical argument, but you've let the extremity of what dude said incite an emotional reaction inside you that has blinded you from seeing his point. 

He didn't equate the police to nazi germany nor was that the point. The point was that it doesn't matter if some or the majority of cops are just "good" guys just trying to do their job. In the grand scheme of things, they are enforcers and enablers of a vicious and rigged system that oppresses certain groups of people.

It doesn't matter if the degree of oppression is or isn't comparable to nazi germany, again that's not the point nor did he even make that connection, the underlying point is that the good ol common rhetoric that not all cops are bad, isn't ******* good enough.

 It might be good enough for you, but it's not good enough for the communities who are affected by this issue differently than you are.
 
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We could also argue that the majority of black don't want any problems either but for some damn reason cops keep killin unarmed citizens.
I think some people are actually starting to feel some of the outrage minority communities feel all the time. And yall are completely naive if yall don't hear are the white voices screaming for bloody murder and applauding it just like some nters are doing right now from the other side of the spectrum.


Congratulations you're outrage and morale sentiments are heard...unfortunately yall haven't heard the sentiments of the people that have been begging for equality since this country was founded. Now you have felt a tiny fraction of the disgust people have been dealing with for generations.

It's not right but there isn't a lot right going on in our country and there never really have been...unless you are a part of the overprivileged
 
 
EVERY cops job is to kill unarmed citizens like the nazis?

You cant be srs
didnt say that. the entire concept of a police force is 100% immoral and invalid in the eyes of truth and to those who truley know the meaning of right and wrong.

somebody will argue, society with police > society without police. in our current situation that may be true but that doesnt negate the fact the the police are a terrorist organization and a well funded and organized gang of thugs and mindless order followers.

if society as a whole understood the true nature of human rights **** constitutional rights, im talking god given birth rights of human beings as well as the principles of non agression and self defense, they would realize that a police force is simply immoral. no 1 man or group of men will ever JUSTLY have the right to set arbitrary dictates and enforce them upon others.

so i know it sounds extreme to some of you that ppl like me say **** the police across the board but its simply a lack of understanding of whats right and wrong. society has been made to NEED a police force by those who control the police force and this goes waaaaaaaay back. im looking at big picture **** here not isolated incidents
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He isn't wrong. Whether you hate them or not they are enforcing a clearly lopsided system. Take it how you want but if you don't get that's the point he's making I can't help you.
 
cameras on cops is a solid first step towards improving the situation.

Cameras didn't get Eric garner justice...


For some reason this guy wasnt killed

Ole Miss Football Recruit Chad Kelly Arrested After Reported Fight with Bouncers
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Ole Miss Football Recruit Chad Kelly Arrested After Reported Fight with BouncersRICHARD SHIRO/Associated Press
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Ole Miss commit Chad Kelly faces charges of third-degree assault, second-degree harassment, second-degree menacing and resisting arrest, among others, after being arrested early Sunday, according to Joseph Popiolkowski and Keith McShea of The Buffalo News.

The charges stem from a reported fight between Kelly and bouncers at a bar in downtown Buffalo, per The Buffalo News report:

Kelly, 20, of Niagara Falls, refused to leave Encore at 492 Pearl St. about 3:15 a.m. and punched a bouncer in the face, Buffalo police said. Kelly's companion, Brandon Hickey, 21, of Clarence, had been thrown out of the bar earlier and tried to re-enter, police said.

Kelly continued to fight with two bouncers and stated "I'm going to go to my car and get my AK-47 and spray this place," according to a report.

The report goes on to state that Kelly would not calm down once the police arrived:

Buffalo police officers responding to that alleged threat stopped a 2005 Ford F-150 pickup truck in which Kelly was a passenger at 458 Pearl.

Kelly was forcibly removed from the vehicle, officers said. Police said Kelly kicked and tried to swing at officers as they removed him from the vehicle. They said he resisted getting into a patrol vehicle and struggled with staff at central booking.

Kelly signed a letter of intent with the Rebels on Wednesday.

"We needed to create competition and depth at quarterback," head coach Hugh Freeze said, via the Ole Miss athletic site. "And we were able to do that with Chad Kelly."

USA TODAY's Dan Wolken also provided a quote Freeze gave The Clarion-Ledger in Jackson, Mississippi:
 
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once again,

cop gets shot = front page news

average citizen gets shot = nobody cares

they think their lives are more valuable than an "average citizen" and that they have some sort of right to enforce unjust laws while being exempt from the very laws they enforce

ill never feel sorry for the cops

I dont think the Zo gif has ever been more applicable
 
The stupidity of some people ... Talking about the white cops being racist but yet anything other than whites are getting killed.

I wish cops boycott and don't respond to any 911 calls for a week. Let see how quick people would change their minds.

You can't victimize ask cops by the actions of a few and give versa, you can judge and entire race by the actions of a few.

I honestly hope this happens as well... Then ppl can see jus how much of a waste 5-0 is to their tax dollars.

Im 28 years old and the police have never in my life helped me. Or attempted to...

Sure do got a lot of speeding and misc tickets for minding ny GD business tho...
 
 
average citizen gets shot = nobody cares
Let's just ignore all the violence and rioting caused by protesters of Brown and Garner. Guess no one cared. 
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im sure there were soldiers in nazi germany who were really just good gys doing their job right? FOH please.
There actually were, because if you refused to serve you were looked at as a traitor and were murdered. 
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Where do you live if I may ask?

Texas.

I'm in the most conservative leaning city in a conservative state. Lol (Dallas)


or the union...

Blue shield extends far beyond that.

The union doesn't help you when you're cheating on your wife, extorting people for money, or using excessive violence.

Bit what does help is another cop vouching for you.

That's why bad cops effect all cops... Because when the 15% messes up or uses their power too much... The 85% is obligated to stick up for them...

And the thing is... The older generation of cops are so steep in tradition... That they dont care how bad a crime by a cop is sometimes...

They have politics they deal with too...

Watch "The Wire"... It is a VERY real interpretation of how cops are...

They have to cook the books for funding, promote and deal with politics, and deal with the Blue Shield of Conduct...

Dead srs

If you're a part of a union, see what happens if you speak out against a fellow union member. This is EXACTLY why you don't see many police condemning Palenteo for what he did to Eric Garner. The trickle-down effect would ultimately be career suicide.
 
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