OFFICIAL MAYWEATHER V. PACQUIAO FIGHT THREAD | MAY 2ND @ MGM GRAND | HBOxSHOWTIME PPV

[keko jones]

LoL ... Maybe I'm bugging ... I guess I refuse to think that Mosley had diminished that bad.

Floyd is grea and I believe he is the greatest of his era. In the US he has single handedly carried boxing, but IMHO his greatness is equal to those of Herns, Chavez, Duran, Sugar Ray, etc. Only a few have eclipse that greater than great status Young Tyson, Ali, Ray Robinson, Joe Louis etc ... Of course this is all subject to interpretations ....

PS I seen dudes make boxers look worst than Floyd while dishing more punishment and taken less hits Sugar Ray and Roy Jones to name a couple.

 

[bigmike23]

 

The clinches and holding in maidana 2 were pathetic. As soon as chino started his offense while mayweather is trying to hold Bayless would break up the action. I hope manny is ready for that bs.

Again, comparing  Maidana to Pac is ridiculous. While I agree, Bayless reacted a little too premature at times in the Maidana rematch, Maidana wanted to inside brawl/maul/fight mayweather and use his size/strength to his advantage and wear Floyd down, like he did in their first fight.

Pac does not fight like this what-so-ever. He'd be a fool to try this vs Mayweather. So Bayless prematurely breaking up clinches has little to no effect on how Pac likes to fight.

this!!!

so why is everyone *****ing about bayless as the ref if pac doesn't even fight like maidana? if anything Floyd would be the one in this fight trying to hold and rough pac up so it would work against him having bayless in the ring.

 

[doublemesh96]

LoL ... Maybe I'm bugging ... I guess I refuse to think that Mosley had diminished that bad.

Floyd is grea and I believe he is the greatest of his era. In the US he has single handedly carried boxing, but IMHO his greatness is equal to those of Herns, Chavez, Duran, Sugar Ray, etc. Only a few have eclipse that greater than great status Young Tyson, Ali, Ray Robinson, Joe Louis etc ... Of course this is all subject to interpretations ....

PS I seen dudes make boxers look worst than Floyd while dishing more punishment and taken less hits Sugar Ray and Roy Jones to name a couple.

Floyd is the the best defensive fighter and purest smartest boxer from this era. That TBE stuff is fun and everything but YOU ONLY FOUGHT 47 FIGHTS in a 18 yr professional career when sugar ray Robinson was fighting twice a month going 99-0 and **** like that. Don't even compare yourself to dudes like that

*i agree with floyds opinion on Ali tho. Everyone is brainwashed Into thinking it's blasphemy to say he's not the goat. He's tasted defeat. In his prime.

 

[keko jones]

Floyd is the the best defensive fighter and purest smartest boxer from this era. That TBE stuff is fun and everything but YOU ONLY FOUGHT 47 FIGHTS in a 18 yr professional career when sugar ray Robinson was fighting twice a month going 99-0 and **** like that. Don't even compare yourself to dudes like that

I arguing with my boy today about this exact thing. He's showing me this clip about what Floyd saying that he refuse to give his entire life to a sport and not be consider the greatest. I'm like what about every other avg player that does the same thing, are they entitle to consider themselves the greatest?

He brings up the wins, in like you do know there are boxers with better records then him before their first lost, IE Chavez 89 - 0 and I don't think he's the greatest and Ray that went on a 91 win streak etc etc

He then argues about weight classes and for this I counter well I believe is harder for a fighter that thru out time out grows his weight class but stay in it and doing massive weight cuts to only fight and repeat vice Floyd that gets bigger and just moved up and had little to cut this wearing himself or less.

I also they in there that Floyd is fight in the 12 round era unlike before ...

Anyways. I like Floyd but he had no substance IMHO unlike other great fighters that I have above him.

 

[maldonado]

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/12736671/floyd-mayweather-manny-pacquiao-contract-not-signed


Eleven days before the fight between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao, an actual contract for the bout to take place at the MGM Grand still has not been signed.

Top Rank promoter Bob Arum told ESPN.com on Tuesday that he wasn't signing the contract that he received a draft of on April 15 because it wasn't what he agreed to when the MGM, Mayweather Promotions and he signed the term sheet a couple months ago.

"We agreed that we would all be signatories on the final contract and then they sent us a draft of the agreement and it excluded us," said Arum, who promotes Pacquiao.

Not being a signatory to the contract means that Top Rank wouldn't have control of decisions during the fight, including in-arena production, video content and music.

"They don't want us to have any say," Arum said. "So whether they came up with the deal between Mayweather and MGM before or after our agreement, they've committed fraud either way. That's what we're enmeshed in."

Leonard Ellerbe, CEO of Mayweather Promotions, disagreed with Arum's characterization of the original deal.

"The bottom line is that Bob isn't willing to live with the agreement signed a couple months ago, which doesn't allow him to be in control," Ellerbe said. "The only conspiracy, in my opinion, exists with him trying to conspire with his lawyers to change the terms of the agreement. I assure you that nothing underhanded is going on and the reference to this back alley stuff is ridiculous."

The only hint to the actual term sheet was posted on Manny Pacquiao's Facebook page on the day it was signed in February. Pacquiao posted the first page of the term sheet before deleting it, but not before it was screengrabbed.

While the page of the term sheet does say that Mayweather and Top Rank will "jointly own and promote the event," it also names Mayweather as lead promoter and "sole negotiator" of the deal with MGM.

Without a signed agreement, a single ticket still has not been printed and tickets to the closed circuit viewing of the fight at MGM Hotels also have not gone on sale. A source with knowledge of the talks said that MGM proposed on Tuesday to be allowed to start selling the closed circuit tickets and any public tickets to fight immediately, with everything else frozen as talks proceed.

A spokesman for MGM didn't immediately return messages.

"Tickets for a fight like this are often available months out," said a high ranking executive in the ticketing business, who requested anonymity. "Distributing this many tickets in this short amount of time is already a nightmare. With physical tickets, there's going to have people worth millions waiting on long lines just to get what they were promised."

Last week, Pacquiao's manager, Michael Koncz, told the Associated Press that the term sheet wasn't being signed by Mayweather's camp because, he guessed, they were looking for more tickets.

"I can only surmise the motivation is greed and an attempt to manipulate the tickets, otherwise why the holdup?" Koncz said.

But a source familiar with the negotiations said the allotment of tickets is pretty clear with MGM getting 40 percent of the tickets and the two promoters splitting 25 percent each.

Arum says he's not signing the deal until Top Rank gets named as a signatory on the agreement.

"They can't act like our original agreement doesn't exist," Arum said.

Ellerbe called Arum holding up the signing "typical Bob."

"This kind of behavior is one of the main reasons why Mr. Mayweather decided to move on with his own career and become vastly successful and make hundreds of millions of dollars on his own," Ellerbe said, alluding to Mayweather leaving Top Rank in 2006 to become his own promoter. "Bob wants to be the focal point of everything and create controversy that doesn't exist."

When asked if he thought the fight was going to happen, Arum said he thought it would.

"MGM is licensed by the gaming commission," Arum said. "They can't do this type of subterfuge and keep their license. If they don't do anything, the governor will step in and make this fight happen."

Said Ellerbe: "Despite all of this, I'm confident the world will get to see the fight they've been waiting for."

Fans sure hope so. Some have paid more than $1,000 a night for hotels in Vegas on fight night, while others have already paid $99.95 to order the fight through their cable provider.

 

[flyerthandelta]

I wished Mayweather didnt make that Ali comment now...should of just waited after you beat pacman to make that kind of statement already adding enough pressure and attention you already got going on a 100

 

[mr marcus]

Whether he won or not I didn't like that Ali comment

 

[keko jones]

I wished Mayweather didnt make that Ali comment now...should of just waited after you beat pacman to make that kind of statement already adding enough pressure and attention you already got going on a 100

I don't think he should of have ever made the comment. He should let the writers, viewers, make that argument for him. He didn't write the history, he's just involved.

But so true what you say ... If he gets in trouble he will remember what he said and lose composure ... If he looses he will regret it.

 

[doublemesh96]

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/12736671/floyd-mayweather-manny-pacquiao-contract-not-signed


Eleven days before the fight between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao, an actual contract for the bout to take place at the MGM Grand still has not been signed.

Top Rank promoter Bob Arum told ESPN.com on Tuesday that he wasn't signing the contract that he received a draft of on April 15 because it wasn't what he agreed to when the MGM, Mayweather Promotions and he signed the term sheet a couple months ago.

"We agreed that we would all be signatories on the final contract and then they sent us a draft of the agreement and it excluded us," said Arum, who promotes Pacquiao.

Not being a signatory to the contract means that Top Rank wouldn't have control of decisions during the fight, including in-arena production, video content and music.

"They don't want us to have any say," Arum said. "So whether they came up with the deal between Mayweather and MGM before or after our agreement, they've committed fraud either way. That's what we're enmeshed in."

Leonard Ellerbe, CEO of Mayweather Promotions, disagreed with Arum's characterization of the original deal.

"The bottom line is that Bob isn't willing to live with the agreement signed a couple months ago, which doesn't allow him to be in control," Ellerbe said. "The only conspiracy, in my opinion, exists with him trying to conspire with his lawyers to change the terms of the agreement. I assure you that nothing underhanded is going on and the reference to this back alley stuff is ridiculous."

The only hint to the actual term sheet was posted on Manny Pacquiao's Facebook page on the day it was signed in February. Pacquiao posted the first page of the term sheet before deleting it, but not before it was screengrabbed.

While the page of the term sheet does say that Mayweather and Top Rank will "jointly own and promote the event," it also names Mayweather as lead promoter and "sole negotiator" of the deal with MGM.

Without a signed agreement, a single ticket still has not been printed and tickets to the closed circuit viewing of the fight at MGM Hotels also have not gone on sale. A source with knowledge of the talks said that MGM proposed on Tuesday to be allowed to start selling the closed circuit tickets and any public tickets to fight immediately, with everything else frozen as talks proceed.

A spokesman for MGM didn't immediately return messages.

"Tickets for a fight like this are often available months out," said a high ranking executive in the ticketing business, who requested anonymity. "Distributing this many tickets in this short amount of time is already a nightmare. With physical tickets, there's going to have people worth millions waiting on long lines just to get what they were promised."

Last week, Pacquiao's manager, Michael Koncz, told the Associated Press that the term sheet wasn't being signed by Mayweather's camp because, he guessed, they were looking for more tickets.

"I can only surmise the motivation is greed and an attempt to manipulate the tickets, otherwise why the holdup?" Koncz said.

But a source familiar with the negotiations said the allotment of tickets is pretty clear with MGM getting 40 percent of the tickets and the two promoters splitting 25 percent each.

Arum says he's not signing the deal until Top Rank gets named as a signatory on the agreement.

"They can't act like our original agreement doesn't exist," Arum said.

Ellerbe called Arum holding up the signing "typical Bob."

"This kind of behavior is one of the main reasons why Mr. Mayweather decided to move on with his own career and become vastly successful and make hundreds of millions of dollars on his own," Ellerbe said, alluding to Mayweather leaving Top Rank in 2006 to become his own promoter. "Bob wants to be the focal point of everything and create controversy that doesn't exist."

When asked if he thought the fight was going to happen, Arum said he thought it would.

"MGM is licensed by the gaming commission," Arum said. "They can't do this type of subterfuge and keep their license. If they don't do anything, the governor will step in and make this fight happen."

Said Ellerbe: "Despite all of this, I'm confident the world will get to see the fight they've been waiting for."

Fans sure hope so. Some have paid more than $1,000 a night for hotels in Vegas on fight night, while others have already paid $99.95 to order the fight through their cable provider.

How mad would ppl be if they cancelled the fight

 

[you go boy]

all that is just to hype up the fight even more... we are not even 2 weeks away from the biggest fight in history aint no way its going to be stopped now especially with all the money to be made

 

[keko jones]

You know although the tickets are going like 10x face value none of the tickets have been sold yet.

 

[elpablo21]

You know although the tickets are going like 10x face value none of the tickets have been sold yet.

ppl seem to think prices will drop on them because of this delay (how much, idk)

That's if the public sale even happens at this point 

 

[doublemesh96]

You gotta be illuminati to sit front row

 

[gold slugs]

Weeks is a POS just like bayless tho

Do you shoot up marijuana?

 

[mr jordan04]

Arum is gonna troll the night before the fight and make some **** up as to how the fight may not happen anymore

Told yall, He started early

 

[Cryptomoon]

The calm before the storm........... Watch out for the ban wagon next week.

 

[monstar]

This thread has been all over the place the last 2 dayS. Bayless as a ref is a non factor as neother will look to clinch.

Please dont bring up mosley dude was clearly on the downward spiral, he shuda took his shot at may wjen je was in his prime but chose to go elsewhere.

I truly believe winky wida gave floyd all he could handle had that foght happened and think he cudve won.

Floyd has been at welterweight for years and when he sought big names no one wud give him the time of day.

Dlh is a bum, he got a gift decision over the man known as sweet pea then ran from him after smh

Ali will always be the goat for his work both in and out the ring. Take away his trials out of the ring and i think that changes.

Cant wait for the fight hope pricing drops bjt either way im in vegas and looking fwd to the madness

 

[Kaleo15]

Are you drunk or am I trippin?

 

[nikeskywalker]

Check out these tee's I had made......
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So the public onsale hasn't happened yet?? I assumed because of the crazy prices on ebay that they were sold already. Still hope or they got them old school botz?

 

[keko jones]

Are you drunk or am I trippin?

bruh ... I thought the same thing. LoL

 

[cashbanks]

The sodium is high in here.

Floyd gonna spank Manny.

"They'd never put a fighter in there with Floyd Mayweather with 7 fights"

 

[Cashflow]

I don't think he should of have ever made the comment. He should let the writers, viewers, make that argument for him. He didn't write the history, he's just involved.

But so true what you say ... If he gets in trouble he will remember what he said and lose composure ... If he looses he will regret it.

Ali called himself the Greatest and lost many a fights. I'm sure Ali has no regrets.

 

[krazyrodzilla]

People don't realize, part of Ali Greatness half of it was what he stood for outside of the ring. Not just his boxing ability. Especially for the black community.

 

[Fozz]

Finally had the chance to watch th "At Last" documentary on HBO. Good stuff.

And I really hope the fight is called off because of this whole signed contract agreement. I feel like the beef is now on Arum not getting what he wants. lol.

 

[monstar]

Sorry was posting from mobile last night which is why it was that bad lol.

But i cant fault floyd for saying he is tbe bc you have to have that crazy mentality to feed that drive. He never disrespected them. How is it wrong to have that mentality & be confident enough to say it especially when you arent disrespecting anyone along the way.

Ali said it all through his career and we praise him to this day. If he didnt say it I highly doubt we would