When did it become ok to steal flows? Vol. Quavo has too many sons

Rappers choose beats tho. It ain't like producers come into the studio and say "This all I got".

Like dude mentioned earlier...Lex Luger made BMF and everyone came to him asking for BMF.

Then he gets blamed for "making the same beat".
 
Peep Game said:
Maaaaaaaaaaan how did i forget that weak "Big Sean flow" rampage that went on :smh:. I know somebody did it before Cam'ron, who did it in moderation, but after Big Sean, my goodness, the entire Young Money squad beat that to death. It was awful.
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That's when I couldn't tell the difference between Wayne and Nicki. :lol:
 
VICTOR PAGE said:
Rappers choose beats tho. It ain't like producers come into the studio and say "This all I got".

Like dude mentioned earlier...Lex Luger made BMF and everyone came to him asking for BMF.

Then he gets blamed for "making the same beat".
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Aye word, they have all the choice in the world lol. Most prods would be more than willing to make different **** most of the time too but they never get asked that.
 
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I swear that this thread has been made on here before or I've seen it somewhere else.
 
Willchamberlain said:
People accept it, plain and simple. Drake is the biggest rapper in the game but he's literally jacked every popular flow since he's been out. Everybody was doing the big Sean flow like antidope said above just a few years ago.
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Very true. Drake is most certainly the biggest culprit of flow jacking. I'll never understand why cats continue yo give him a pass. Dude is extra fraudulent.
 
That entire My Chick Bad song buried Ludacris and he's never recovered :lol: its a shame being that at one time, I would have put him against anybody
 
"Can't knock the next mans hustle" is a mantra that aided in dissolving the standards & principals of Hip Hop that at one time shamed artists for such behavior. Making it unfashionable to call a spade a spade created an environment conducive to shark biting. All sins shall be forgiving just as long as you are "Winning". Praising & rewarding artists for blatantly violating once close kept principles only reinforces this shift in mentality. Holding artists to a certain standard became "Hating".
All of these quoted words & phrases became accepted parts of the hip hop mental lexicon & subsequently eroded some of the core values that insisted on its artists being original, creative & progressive.
 
Definition Of Dopeness said:
:lol: That flow. :smh: Hated that ****.

I haven't listened to a Luda song since that n_ said i fill her up...BALLOONS.
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As an ATL native, I was extremely disappointed that Luda jumped on that bandwagon. Dude had been rapping since '98 man. You're a damn OG, ****** supposed to be biting YOU.
 
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The biting of meek mill flow was the worst. This Migos copying s*** is up there too. It's a shame. Like its blatant and every artist does it. Was listening to the new Gotti tape and he sounded like takeoff smh.

Let's not act like flows weren't being copied and jacked back in the early 90s though. There was just more originality and a lot of different flows back then.

Now it's like there is only one dominant flow every 1-2 years and EVERYBODY and their mother will ***** it out to death. Kills some potentially great songs.
 
iLLscan said:
"Can't knock the next mans hustle" is a mantra that aided in dissolving the standards & principals of Hip Hop that at one time shamed artists for such behavior. Making it unfashionable to call a spade a spade created an environment conducive to shark biting. All sins shall be forgiving just as long as you are "Winning". Praising & rewarding artists for blatantly violating once close kept principles only reinforces this shift in mentality. Holding artists to a certain standard became "Hating".
All of these quoted words & phrases became accepted parts of the hip hop mental lexicon & subsequently eroded some of the core values that insisted on its artists being original, creative & progressive.
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Real s***. This buddy buddy and accepting everything stuff has ironically hampered creativity.
 
iLLscan said:
"Can't knock the next mans hustle" is a mantra that aided in dissolving the standards & principals of Hip Hop that at one time shamed artists for such behavior. Making it unfashionable to call a spade a spade created an environment conducive to shark biting. All sins shall be forgiving just as long as you are "Winning". Praising & rewarding artists for blatantly violating once close kept principles only reinforces this shift in mentality. Holding artists to a certain standard became "Hating".
All of these quoted words & phrases became accepted parts of the hip hop mental lexicon & subsequently eroded some of the core values that insisted on its artists being original, creative & progressive.
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which Puffy popularized

which is why I say he killed hip hop.
he rode that r&b + rapper formula for a decade as well.
 
I absolutely hate that biting is tolerated and even sometimes encouraged.

We could never hear a track like 10% Diss in 2015. :smh:
 
I hate how there will be a hot song, and every rapper on the surface of earth feels the need to 'remix' it and do it there way. Its like, ***** let the song be hot and let the artist shine. Dont try to out rap them or make moves off of someonelses stuff.
 
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This is why I stopped listening to a lot of this music. Felt like it started in the early 2000 and it just took off ever since. It's sad really.

Reading some comments in here, dudes are confused.
 
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rillo561 said:
This is why I stopped listening to a lot of this music. Felt like it started in the early 2000 and it just took off ever since. It's sad really.

Reading some comments in here, dudes are confused.
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Slight generation gap. 

Alot of us dudes in our late twenties/early thirties went to middle school in the Pac + Big era. We fell in love w/ the culture during the golden era

If you're in your early 20s now...you came up on some completely different ****. 
 
iLLscan said:
"Can't knock the next mans hustle" is a mantra that aided in dissolving the standards & principals of Hip Hop that at one time shamed artists for such behavior. Making it unfashionable to call a spade a spade created an environment conducive to shark biting. All sins shall be forgiving just as long as you are "Winning". Praising & rewarding artists for blatantly violating once close kept principles only reinforces this shift in mentality. Holding artists to a certain standard became "Hating".
All of these quoted words & phrases became accepted parts of the hip hop mental lexicon & subsequently eroded some of the core values that insisted on its artists being original, creative & progressive.
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iLLscan said:
"Can't knock the next mans hustle" is a mantra that aided in dissolving the standards & principals of Hip Hop that at one time shamed artists for such behavior. Making it unfashionable to call a spade a spade created an environment conducive to shark biting. All sins shall be forgiving just as long as you are "Winning". Praising & rewarding artists for blatantly violating once close kept principles only reinforces this shift in mentality. Holding artists to a certain standard became "Hating".
All of these quoted words & phrases became accepted parts of the hip hop mental lexicon & subsequently eroded some of the core values that insisted on its artists being original, creative & progressive.
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which Puffy popularized

which is why I say he killed hip hop.
he rode that r&b + rapper formula for a decade as well.
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Man I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees this. Puff killed a lot of things in Hip-Hop. First being the "remix". Remixes used to actually be different beats and sometimes you got lucky and got different lyrics. Then Puff put out the "Flava In Ya Ear" remix and it was over. All he did was add every hot MC in Hip-Hop at the time. Now that's the standard. The fact that people call adding guest stars a remix always infuriates me. Then Puff brought the money into it. And once people got a taste of the money, they didn't care what they sounded like or copied. As long as it was hot and sold, that's all that mattered. Once the Bling, Bling era was ushered in, game over. Because not even a decade before when Hammer was making shiny suit music he got clowned, but then Puff got lucky and had Big who was a legitimate MC so it made his watered down sampling acceptable. I've felt for years and years Puff ushered in the garbage that is Hip-Hop today and put "real Hip-Hop" in the shadows.
 
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