Outkast or Run DMC?

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sinsea

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Big Gipp said that Outkast is bigger and more influential than Run DMC. What do yall think?
 
Without run-DMC
There would be no outkast
I don't care what anybody says
Oh and their last good album was aquemini
Everything else has been trash
I know this ain't popular opinion but I don't care
Yall people getting beside yall selves
This the exact reason hip hop is where it is now
We always throwing the ones who helped build it to the way side
Even dre and big boi would say they can't even be put in the same category
I swear man yall new generations suck *** when it comes to rap
 
We use to ride around rocking out to Aquemini smoking blunts....
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Anyone who says Outkast has no real knowledge of the history of rap.

Rap is what it is partially to what Run DMC did and influenced. They helped take hip hop national and world wide to mainstream society. They brought hip hop out of clubs to arenas.

Outkast was mostly a regional phenomenon and meant more to the south. I couldn't even understand a lot of what Dre and Big Boi were saying.
 
Magic1978 said:
Anyone who says Outkast has no real knowledge of the history of rap.

Rap is what it is partially to what Run DMC did and influenced. They helped take hip hop national and world wide to mainstream society. They brought hip hop out of clubs to arenas.

Outkast was mostly a regional phenomenon and meant more to the south. I couldn't even understand a lot of what Dre and Big Boi were saying.
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Dude no offense but that's a very ignorant statement about OutKast. If anything, their enigmatic dynamic and colorful creativity was lifted them to popularity. Aquemini is indubitably one of the greatest albums ever, plus they had hits for days. They were far ahead of their time man, it could be argued. 
 
If y'all can't see the influence of them DF Ns today (Kendrick/Krit/Cole/Drake I'm looking at you) then I don't know what the **** to tell you...

...gimme Kast.
 
Magic1978 said:
Anyone who says Outkast has no real knowledge of the history of rap.

Rap is what it is partially to what Run DMC did and influenced. They helped take hip hop national and world wide to mainstream society. They brought hip hop out of clubs to arenas.

Outkast was mostly a regional phenomenon and meant more to the south. I couldn't even understand a lot of what Dre and Big Boi were saying.
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And rap is also partially what it is due to Outkast. Just sayin'. Those guys have heavily influenced A LOT of artists over the years, just as Run DMC has.

And you couldn't understand what they were saying? You serious right now, b? :lol:

And a regional thing, huh? That's laughable, at best. I guess all those record sales were from southerners, huh?

Personally, I can't say who is/was more influential. Both are vital to hip-hop in different ways, and without either group, we'd be missing out on a lot of classic material.
 
Magic1978 said:
Anyone who says Outkast has no real knowledge of the history of rap.

Rap is what it is partially to what Run DMC did and influenced. They helped take hip hop national and world wide to mainstream society. They brought hip hop out of clubs to arenas.

Outkast was mostly a regional phenomenon and meant more to the south. I couldn't even understand a lot of what Dre and Big Boi were saying.
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And who are you that your opinion discounts the knowledge of others. Outkast is a regional phenomenon? Man, please. It's this antiquated mindset that has kept hip hop purists from appreciating the evolution of the genre. Outkast just went on 80 something worldwide festivals, all of the attendees whom were there to see them.

Outkast is far more influential than Run DMC in the sense that they allowed the genre to diversify from the confines of the singular sound that hip hop emanated. Run DMC obviously ushered in the genre and cemented the foundation but from an artistic growth perspective, one can easily argue that Outkast diversified the sound spectrum in a manner that enabled the genre to expand into sonic regions it hadnt done prior. Outside the sonic expansion, Outkast more so than anyone else cemented the idea that originality to self, and a refusal to mold yourself to a status quo of sound, remained a viable means of achieving success. Today's artist refusal to refrain from the nuances of their identity when it comes to music derives from the pioneering efforts of Outkast. Outkast made it cool to be different and weird, which allowed Hip Hop to grow. NWA was a regional variance of what Hip Hop was in NYC, in the sense that it maintained the singular gangster music template, albeit with a regional twist. Outkast moved away from the gangster music to an eclectic palate of funk that truly allowed the genre to mature into a sound it hadn't had prior to their emergence.

Anyhow, it's obvious that you can come in and say that someone other than Outkast had this same impact and influence, which is perfectly reasonable, but to diminish their impact on the genre just because they are dueling a pioneering legend is simply fallacious.
 
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How did Outkast diversify music, when you had southern rappers before them? Where are your other Outkast?

You mean diversify by combining rock and rap? Reviving Aerosmith's career?

Anytime you say that Outkast was more influential that Run DMC it shows you don't know much about rap...period.

Run DMC is the first group/rappers to do just about everything...go gold, platinum, do national tours, sponsorships, go number one...

Even though Run DMC wasn't on Def Jam, Def Jam wasn't built off their backs. Def Jam....Run DMC.

Run DMC took rap global.

Rap caused record labels to determine rap was commercially viable and worth investing in. Rap truly might not be what it is because of Run DMC. You can't say the same about Outkast.

You know anybody dressing like Dre, but Adidas Shell toes are still popular today.
 
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You are approaching it as Run DMC is more influential to the status of the genre, whereas I'm saying Outkast is more influential to the artistry that defines the genre. I think that is a happy medium, and I certainly agree with you on the contributions of Run DMC, and Hip Hop not being in a position to achieve the acclaim and worldwide success that it has without them. But from an artistic standpoint, Outkast definitely has influenced the artistry of the musicians that comprise the genre more than Run DMC. And I don't think it is even remotely debatable, and is probably what Gipp is referring to when he made that assessment.
 
Influential to the artistry?

huh?

What did Outkast do new or ground breaking?

Where are all these copycat Outkast groups they influenced roaming around?

Gipp meant influential to him, because he is from Atlanta and Goodie Mobb was part of Dungeon Family. He was biased in the first place. He was speaking for the south and the southern rapper.

Do you think Outkast influenced someone in Cali more than Snoop or Dre?
 
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How do you put the cart before the horse?

Huge outkast fan, but this is silly.
 
Dmc are most definitely pioneers and are worthy of all the respect.
I would have loved to be alive when they were getting it poppin.

But....if i was going on a roadtrip and i had a choice between the 2 discographies.....kast.
 
Outkast is not more influential to the historical trajectory of Hip Hop then Run DMC.
 
Anybody who says outkast are crazy and prolly younger than 30.... without even talking about everything else they have done for hip hop , look at what they done for Adidas alone.. :lol: .... Not even a comparison .. And I'm a outkast fan
 
Magic1978 said:
Influential to the artistry?

huh?

What did Outkast do new or ground breaking?

Where are all these copycat Outkast groups they influenced roaming around?

Gipp meant influential to him, because he is from Atlanta and Goodie Mobb was part of Dungeon Family. He was biased in the first place. He was speaking for the south and the southern rapper.

Do you think Outkast influenced someone in Cali more than Snoop or Dre?
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Your last question lacks logic. Do you think Run DMC influenced Cali cats more than Snoop and Dre? You do understand that it goes both ways, right?

Still waiting to hear from you how Outkast was/is a regional phenomenon, btw.
 
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