Outkast or Run DMC?

Who is bigger?

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PRIME said:
Need "Haters gon' hate" on this
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Depending on AGE the choice will vary..........RUN DMC.....EPMD......for me.......OUTKAST is cool too my 2cents
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numbah1grimey said:
Run DMC had the "machine" behind them. Just so happen to be the biggest group, on Hip Hops marquee label...

I honestly believe what mele mell did (one of the GOATs btw) with grandmaster flash and the furious 5 opened up the floodgates for hip hop. He birthed so much into the game. As a group, Run DMC had great marketing. The group Whodini had a better body of work, in my opinion.

Now, 'Kast is my favorite group (Tribe, Geto Boys, Goodie Mobb, Wu all situated as well)

The Roots are a favorite too (But, Black Thought pretty much is the sole musician, so, it's difficult to categorize them (Kind of like Melle Mel's situation))

Outkast dropped 5 CLASSIC albums in a row, starting when they were 18 years old. Unreal. Speaking about outkast is like Michael Jordan, when he says his older brother Larry Jordan was better. Hell, Mike said he chose the #23 because he was only half as good as his brother, who wore the #45 (that MJ wore for that short span)

That's how good Outkast is. They excelled in every facet. Creativity, lyricism, content, cross over appeal, sound, fashion, performance/stage presence, album sales (from a pre-piracy/downloading era), Outkast is in a league of their own. I love Run DMC, Russ, Rev, JMJ, etc. but even in it's infancy state in the 80s, there were a lot of great group acts in the mid-late 80s, early 90s. Outkast was clearly the best of their timespace, from 1994 and beyond
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What machine did Run DMC have behind them in 83/84? **** Clark's American Bandstand was the big show, so from Sugar Hill to them, no other rappers appeared on the show.

Whodini had a better body of work? You're just making up stuff :lol: They had two good albums, and were more of a 80's version of Naughty with the anthems.

Black Thought is the sole musician, huh, rapper? What about Malik B or Dice Raw in the early days?

and Grand Master Flash and The Furious Five, had several rappers :smh:

Let me stop....
 
Magic1978 said:
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What machine did Run DMC have behind them in 83/84? **** Clark's American Bandstand was the big show, so from Sugar Hill to them, no other rappers appeared on the show.

Whodini had a better body of work? You're just making up stuff :lol: They had two good albums, and were more of a 80's version of Naughty with the anthems.

Black Thought is the sole musician, huh, rapper? What about Malik B or Dice Raw in the early days?

and Grand Master Flash and The Furious Five, had several rappers :smh:

Let me stop....
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Run DMC was definitely on early MTV, once it started playing hip hop, and the movie Krush Groove. In regards to Melle Mel, you sort of proved my point. He was the frontman of the group, and strictly from a lyrical standpoint, Mel was elite in comparison to Rev Run, and DMC. Black Thought is also the frontman of the roots. Was'nt discrediting the other members but, he's the face. And, I stick to what I said about Whodini. They have a great catalogue.
 
numbah1grimey said:
Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik, Atliens, Aquemini, Stankonia, SB/Love Below not classic albums?
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The word "Classic" gets thrown around way too often. Their first album was very solid, but not a classic. Their sophomore album showed growth and was even better. Their third album was a classic and where they peaked. Their next two alums were very solid, but far from classic. The thing is no matter what I say; it's not going to change your opinion. The point of this thread was asking who was bigger, RUN DMC or Outkast. If you honestly believe that Outkast is bigger than RUN DMC then I really can't respect your perspective on the culture of Hip Hop.
 
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numbah1grimey said:
Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik, Atliens, Aquemini, Stankonia, SB/Love Below not classic albums? :rolleyes
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One thing about debuts, normally they get the nod because of the popularity of the artist or era they welcomed in and not the actual album.

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numbah1grimey said:
Run DMC was definitely on early MTV, once it started playing hip hop, and the movie Krush Groove. In regards to Melle Mel, you sort of proved my point. He was the frontman of the group, and strictly from a lyrical standpoint, Mel was elite in comparison to Rev Run, and DMC. Black Thought is also the frontman of the roots. Was'nt discrediting the other members but, he's the face. And, I stick to what I said about Whodini. They have a great catalogue.
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Was Michael Jackson on MTV because of how good he was for his time, or because he had the "machine" behind him?

You're a funny guy.

You probably couldn't name a Whodini album without googling.
 
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You can also look at how many times the Run DMC logo has been imitated.

It's one of the most recognized logos in all of music.
 
If you replaced Run-dmc with tribe called quest, this might be some sort of debate.
 
calibeebee said:
If you replaced Run-dmc with tribe called quest, this might be some sort of debate.
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Only if you're talking about straight up rapping, with I'd still pick OutKast. But this is based on influence/impact and I think Run-DMC gets that with no question
 
But Dre changed an entire way of flowing, and think about the impact of The Love Below. 

I'm venturing somewhat away from Outkast, but look at what that album did artistically and commercially, and I rarely insert sales into the conversation. 
 
Think about what you're saying for a minute. Outkast has had more influence on the overall trajectory of Hip Hop then Run DMC. Really?
I'm not diminishing Kast in any way. They are one of the greatest groups of all time, but more influential than Run DMC they are not.
 
As far as impact, it's not debateable. Run-DMC was the juggernaut that most hip hop fans across the nation followed and listened to. Outkast clearly made better music, but didn't have the same impact. If you look at each group's prime, BIG, Pac, Nas, Wu-Tang, all rivaled or eclipsed Outkast's influence. No one rivaled Run-DMC's influence (even LL took a back seat to them, and he was that dude at the time). They were on different level than anything that was out.
 
It was only like 3 groups back with Run DMC...ans if they came any later they wouldn't have made it. 

Lucky for them they came at the right moment. 
 
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