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[everysingletime]

So what I'm hearing is that the Clips beat the Spurs and was up 3-1 on the Rockets but the team didn't have enough talent to advance

Quit making excuses. Accept the slander and move on

 

[shoeking2102]

So what I'm hearing is that the Clips beat the Spurs and was up 3-1 on the Rockets but the team didn't have enough talent to advance

Quit making excuses. Accept the slander and move on

Such a lazy, lazy, way to assess things but whatever.

People need to learn the difference between excuses and recognizing what actually happened 

If you bring up the Clips beating the spurs and going up 3-1 and don't bring up how that happened then that's lazy IMO. But it's cool and funny to say the Clips just flat out choked (I agree btw) so I understand.

 

[bravelude]

yall dont gotta look too deep into it. they lost.

 

[freeze]

So what I'm hearing is that the Clips beat the Spurs and was up 3-1 on the Rockets but the team didn't have enough talent to advance


Quit making excuses. Accept the slander and move on

Such a lazy, lazy, way to assess things but whatever.

People need to learn the difference between excuses and recognizing what actually happened 

If you bring up the Clips beating the spurs and going up 3-1 and don't bring up how that happened then that's lazy IMO. But it's cool and funny to say the Clips just flat out choked (I agree btw) so I understand.

how did it happen then? either they choked, or they over achieved and were never supposed to get that far anyways. theres really only two options, when injury isn't a factor.

 

[do work son]

I'm sure the Rockets will throw some different guys at him. Ariza will probably get him some times, Brewer, Harden. But even if the Rockets do a good job on Curry, I doubt Harrison Barnes and Klay are going to go stone cold like Matt Barnes and JJ did. Dubs in 5. And that's no slight to the Rockets. I just think the Warriors are on another level right now.

Who are they gonna hide Terry on?


Klay or Barnes will both kill him.


Might as well start Harden at the 1 with Brewer at the 2.

Curry is scoring on whoever. Might as well let it be Jet and make sure Ariza shuts down Klay. When the Warriors get everyone involved it's impossible to beat them.

 

[shoeking2102]

how did it happen then? either they choked, or they over achieved and where never supposed to get that far anyways. theres really only two options, when you dont lose the best players to injury.

From a purely basketball perspective, JJ / Matt / Redick / Austin all played horribly over the past 3 games and that, is choking for sure.

Blake Choked as well.

I'm not saying that they didn't choke, what I'm saying is that this goes beyond CP3 and Blake just not playing well, one of which isn't even true. 

 

[freeze]

how did it happen then? either they choked, or they over achieved and where never supposed to get that far anyways. theres really only two options, when you dont lose the best players to injury.

From a purely basketball perspective, JJ / Matt / Redick / Austin all played horribly over the past 3 games and that, is choking for sure.

Blake Choked as well.

I'm not saying that they didn't choke, what I'm saying is that this goes beyond CP3 and Blake just not playing well, one of which isn't even true. 

but role players, bench players can't choke. Only stars can choke.

 

[henz0]

From a purely basketball perspective, JJ / Matt / Redick / Austin all played horribly over the past 3 games and that, is choking for sure.

Why are you leaving out Crawford??? The guy they probaly depend on the most outta anyone you named

 

[shoeking2102]

Why are you leaving out Crawford??? The guy they probaly depend on the most outta anyone you named

That was an oversight. He absolutely belonged in there. He was awful as well for sure, and I haven't been a fan of his for most of this season. 

 

[shoeking2102]

but role players, bench players can't choke. Only stars can choke.

I disagree. They absolutely can. It can be argued that JJ Redick choked. Matt Barnes choked. Jamal Crawford choked. Hell even Austin Rivers choked.

That is, once it got to closeout time (3-1), they all severely underperformed when it mattered. That's choking. 

 

[Lovetohate3000]

why didnt they have the cavs and hawks start tonight. no ball today 

 

[jape]

i dont think cp3 choked. blake shrank in the big moment. but chris paul stood strong. he put it all out there. jj wasn't making the 3s he tpically makes. jamal was more off than on. barnes didn't have hardly any output in the last few games compared to the 3 wins and the last series. rockets bench was much better.


i can't put this loss on cp3. i'll still make fun of him for losing because there's no i in team, only in win. but if we're legit pointing fingers, i'd point to him last. well second to last, I'll never hate on anybody named Lester.

If your the leader of team then a loss gets put on you...not all on you but you are def not blameless. Especially losing he series like his.
CP0 wants to be called he best pg in the game then he needs to step it up when it matters...
IMO him being he leader he needs to hold more people accountable. He should'be called put Blake griffin for his terrible defense a long time ago.

 

[freeze]

but role players, bench players can't choke. Only stars can choke.

I disagree. They absolutely can. It can be argued that JJ Redick choked. Matt Barnes choked. Jamal Crawford choked. Hell even Austin Rivers choked.

That is, once it got to closeout time (3-1), they all severely underperformed when it mattered. That's choking. 

nah. pressure effects everyone differently. It's what separates the stars from the role players. Role players are expected to play their roles, but it is what it is if they fail in the big moment. Stars are always supposed to rise to the occasion in some form or facet. Kobe was off in game 7 vs boston. 6-24. But dude rose in other areas. 14 boards, a handful of assists. Shots dont fall every night. Nature of the game. what bron did vs dallas, that was choking. what mario chalmers did in the same series vs dallas, not choking. The expectations are much lower for role players. There's hope that they perform to their best ability, but theres a reason why there are so few superstars. They are the ones that despite odds or pressure, they overcome when it counts. austin rivers choked? you're kidding right? you allowed 3 good games to advance his expectations so far that if he fails to reach it, he's choking? Come on man. That's unreasonable. Choking is when you have something that you do really well the majority of the time, and when the moment finally happens, you freeze up. You shrink. You disappear. Stars are stars because typically they overcome those moments. Superstars are superstars, because they overcome those moments at a higher clip than regular stars. KK and redick are awesome shooters, but if they go cold in a big game, i dont consider it choking, its just a good player going cold. My expectations arent set that high. If lebron goes cold with a game on the line, kobe goes cold, kd, steph, they're choking. It is expected that they are to rise to the occasion.


maybe we all need to have a separate discussion on what we actually consider choking.

 

[IATT]

@Chester McFloppy

http://www.si.com/nba/2015/05/18/deandre-jordan-clippers-free-agency-chris-paul

 

[freeze]

i dont think cp3 choked. blake shrank in the big moment. but chris paul stood strong. he put it all out there. jj wasn't making the 3s he tpically makes. jamal was more off than on. barnes didn't have hardly any output in the last few games compared to the 3 wins and the last series. rockets bench was much better.


i can't put this loss on cp3. i'll still make fun of him for losing because there's no i in team, only in win. but if we're legit pointing fingers, i'd point to him last. well second to last, I'll never hate on anybody named Lester.

If your the leader of team then a loss gets put on you...not all on you but you are def not blameless. Especially losing he series like his.
CP0 wants to be called he best pg in the game then he needs to step it up when it matters...
IMO him being he leader he needs to hold more people accountable. He should'be called put Blake griffin for his terrible defense a long time ago.

he said he wants to be called the best pg in the game? why wouldnt doc hold blake accountable?

 

[bstmde83]

View media item 1539253 Yup.

 

[bravelude]

now people doing lost allocation? lol midas whale pro rata or weighted value based off of salary

 

[lver of jordan]

@Chester McFloppy


http://www.si.com/nba/2015/05/18/deandre-jordan-clippers-free-agency-chris-paul

 

[jumpman ii]

View media item 1539256
Thanks again lawdog1

 

[Chester McFloppy]

@Chester McFloppy


http://www.si.com/nba/2015/05/18/deandre-jordan-clippers-free-agency-chris-paul

 

[thegrandpuba26]

 
This "Never repeated" thing is so dumb

It is what it is. As said before, there is significance in defending a title. It's a testament to how focused and healthy your team is for that span of time. 

The problem is when it is blown out of proportion. At the end of the day, You have to be in it to win it. There hasn't been a drought in that organization, hell,some of the few times they lost was when Manu was hurt (MEM-2011), Goran played out of his mind (PHX-2010), and the clippers cheated a 7 game series (LAC-2015). 

Critique is just that - critical. It's easy to denounce any player/team/organization and say "well they didn't x,y, or z", but what about what they actually did accomplish? The only team that has beaten them in the finals had to do it on a prayer, and were a force to be reckoned with at the time. (Ray Allen - Heat 2013) 

 

[comptonprince]

DJ would look nice as a Spur DO IT POP!!!

 

[hypebeast5]

@Chester McFloppy


http://www.si.com/nba/2015/05/18/deandre-jordan-clippers-free-agency-chris-paul

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/05/18/bernstein-derrick-rosejimmy-butler-tension-marred-game-6/

D Rose vs. Jimmy > CP3 vs. DJ

 

[rck3sactown]

Thanks again @lawdog1

I have a Joe Smith jersey 

 

[captainsneakerhead23]

So basically what Clippers fans are saying is they got this far because of their role players?

Meaning if it wasn't for Barnes, Redick, JCrawford, and Rivers they would've lost to the Rockets in 5 or 6 games?

I remember Clippers fans saying the Rockets didn't have a chance at all before the series started, even worse when they went up 3-1, now all of a sudden "our role players went cold"

C'mon guys, just accept the well deserved slander for the choke job