what's something u silently judge people for vol....u just gonna let ya baby cry wen im watchin dis

spizike231 said:
I think anybody who has actually worked a customer service job that they couldn't afford to quit has a higher respect for customer service employees. I know I do.

And I'll stand up for some people when customers are being ridiculous, because I know the employee can't. (that would be bad customer service :rolleyes )
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I'm with you on this. I was at Duke to see my cousin who went there, I was at the on campus McDonald 's dude was ordering a drink and the cashier didn't know what he meant and dude was like its right there on the picture what are you stupid. I said to the cashier with dude next to me that if he wanted to come over the counter and smack the dude I would tell whoever he spit on him(used that reason cause camera wouldn't pick it up) And told dude ordering that just because your mommy and daddy got money don't give u the right to talk to someone like that and that one day its gonna get him hurt. Dude didn't say a word and walked away.
 
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sea manup said:
 
for the most part, if you work an office job and need formal looking pants these are the most comfortable pants I have ever worn 

http://shop.lululemon.com/products/...01&skuId=3630425&catId=mens-pants-to-and-from
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you arent scared they might become see through on you especially with their recall over transparency issues on yoga pants ... wouldnt want to be walking and suddenly my drawers are visible at the office ... 
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they are loose fitting dress pants 
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tbh any dude who wears skin tight pants is judged 
 
Patrik1tha1 said:
 
paulprince3730 said:
 
CashBanks said:
People so stupid and brainwashed they see a problem with working class people looking for a livable wage from billion dollar corporations they work for but never make a peep about billionaires exploiting tax loopholes, outsourcing jobs to abuse near slave labor in 3rd world countries, or not paying their employees a livable wage in the first place.
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some people feel like you shouldnt make a decent wage if you dont get a degree, or maybe the work is too easy in their minds for someone to make more than minimum wage

idk, but whenever someone shows their upset about minimum wage employees wanting more money they show their true colors
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Minimum wage jobs are entry level jobs intended for high school aged kids to gain work experience and for college students to make some money while they put themselves through school or for people to work on the side to make some extra cash. They are called minimum wage jobs for a reason... They aren't intended to be livable waged jobs that you can support a household off of.

I'm not saying you have to have a degree to make decent money, but there are jobs that pay well/decent that only require certification.
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theyre actually intended to keep the cost of doing business low

you showin your colors 
 
Patrik1tha1 said:
Minimum wage jobs are entry level jobs intended for high school aged kids to gain work experience and for college students to make some money while they put themselves through school or for people to work on the side to make some extra cash. They are called minimum wage jobs for a reason... They aren't intended to be livable waged jobs that you can support a household off of.

I'm not saying you have to have a degree to make decent money, but there are jobs that pay well/decent that only require certification.
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IF this was true who is supposed to work there while they're at school, who's supposed to manage the place?

The point is there shouldn't be any jobs that don't pay a livable wage especially in a country that outsources what would be everyday working class jobs
 
ELJEFE said:
This happened the other day,
I was in San Francisco and I was the first person in the elevator with my girl and my stroller. And more and more people kept on trying to fit in. When there is a clear sign that says no more than 10

So when my floor finally came nobody wanted to move out the way for me to get out so I had to keep saying excuse me and some people, rather than standing outside the elevator the tried to shuffle to get behind me and some d/ckhead stood in the door path thinking he was out of my way. I just ran my stroller Into him. Have some courtesy when you see people with an infant. What made it really annoying is the escalator is next to the damn elevator, if I could take my stroller on that I would.
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Where do you live?

Sounds like South Florida people to me
 
paulprince3730 said:
Patrik1tha1 said:
 
paulprince3730 said:
 
CashBanks said:
People so stupid and brainwashed they see a problem with working class people looking for a livable wage from billion dollar corporations they work for but never make a peep about billionaires exploiting tax loopholes, outsourcing jobs to abuse near slave labor in 3rd world countries, or not paying their employees a livable wage in the first place.
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some people feel like you shouldnt make a decent wage if you dont get a degree, or maybe the work is too easy in their minds for someone to make more than minimum wage


idk, but whenever someone shows their upset about minimum wage employees wanting more money they show their true colors
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Minimum wage jobs are entry level jobs intended for high school aged kids to gain work experience and for college students to make some money while they put themselves through school or for people to work on the side to make some extra cash. They are called minimum wage jobs for a reason... They aren't intended to be livable waged jobs that you can support a household off of.


I'm not saying you have to have a degree to make decent money, but there are jobs that pay well/decent that only require certification.
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theyre actually intended to keep the cost of doing business low

you showin your colors 
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Ok, so you pay someone enough to live comfortably to wrap burgers, they aren't even flipped anymore, or to provide janitorial services, etc. where is the incentive in that to improve your own quality of living? This is the same issue with rent control. Things like this don't help society to progress. Just because there is a job to be done, doesn't mean you should be compensated enough live well off it. If that were the case, what would really be the point of higher education?
 
cashbanks cashbanks

Really dude? Weekends, night shifts etc. it's called scheduling. And Mangers aren't entry level positions and clearly make more than minimum wage.

At least come back with a valid rebuttal.
 
Patrik1tha1 said:
Ok, so you pay someone enough to live comfortably to wrap burgers, they aren't even flipped anymore, or to provide janitorial services, etc. where is the incentive in that to improve your own quality of living? This is the same issue with rent control. Things like this don't help society to progress. Just because there is a job to be done, doesn't mean you should be compensated enough live well off it. If that were the case, what would really be the point of higher education?
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and this is when i realize I'm wasting my time, the **** kind of logic is that.

You have a good day fam.
 
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minimum wage jobs are supposed to allow you to get by

if you want to live well AND not do anything more than work at mcdonalds you're lazy 
 
-The major problem with minimum wage it that is not tied to inflation.

It is all well and good to tell someone that don't deserve to make more, but that is not the argument folk are really making

Saying they should be paid little is one thing, but saying they should also get a paid crap and get a pay cut every year is another.

-Secondly always come with the "you shouldn't get paid a decent amount for flipping burgers". We what determines a wage is a lot of things, you're suppose to get paid a lil premium if your job is unpleasant and in some way demanding. Standing over a hot grill all day is not easy work, being on feet all day dealing with ****heads is not easy work. I don't see why paying people a decent low wage for this is so unreasonable

There are a lot of low wage/minimum wage workers that work very hard.

-Just saying "oh just get a better job" is like burying your head in the sand because they think that somehow they only reason someone is poor or remains poor is their only their own doing

And with the cost of higher education going up, you're telling poor folk going into tens thousands of dollars of debt is the only way to have a decent living.

If they make so little, and have to work so much, where is the time for classes? If cheap reliable public transportation is not available, how are they gonna get there?

We love telling folk to pull themselves up by their bootstraps all the while cutting programs they can use to do so.

-And the these jobs are only for high school and college students thing is BS. First there are restrictions on the amount of time high school students can work. With a full schedule, even part time schedule in some majors, most college students won't be bale to handle a full time work schedule on top of and be successful at school.

The supply of labor is just not there from those groups to fill all those positions.

And if only those two groups supplied there labor, the shortage would cause the wage to shoot up

So that argument is just plain doesn't work.

-Lets keep it #1HUNNA it is so easy to vilify the poor in this country because right now the face of the poor is minority communities.

------Set minimum wage at $10.10, tie it to inflation, and work on programs and policies that help with upward mobility

The ones that want to pull themselves up will have a chance at doing so, the ones that don't can barely scrap by.
 
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cashbanks cashbanks

You haven't even said anything of substance, so please elaborate on your point. I'm open and listening.

It's like you're saying working as a crossing guard Should be compensated the same as a nurse or teacher.

Like I said, not all jobs are meant for you to be able to live well off of. Please point out how that is illogical. I'm open.
 
RustyShackleford said:
-The major problem with minimum wage it that is not tied to inflation.

It is all well and good to tell someone that don't deserve to make more, but that is not the argument folk are really making

Saying they should be paid little is one thing, but saying they should also get a paid crap and get a pay cut every year.

-Secondly always come with the "you shouldn't get paid a decent amount for flipping burgers". We what determines a wage is a lot of things, you're suppose to get paid a lil premium if your job is unpleasant and in some way demanding. Standing over a hot grill all day is not easy work, being on feet all day dealing with ****heads is not easy work. I don't see why paying people a decent low wage for this is so unreasonable

There are a lot of low wage/minimum wage workers that work very hard.

-Just saying "oh just get a better job" is like burying your head in the sand because they think that somehow they only reason someone is poor or remains poor is their only their own doing

And with the cost of higher education going up, you're telling poor folk going into tens thousands of dollars of debt is the only way to have a decent living.

If they make so little, and have to work so much, where is the time for classes? If cheap reliable public transportation is not available, how are they gonna get there?

We love telling folk to pull themselves up by their bootstraps all the while cutting programs they can use to do so.

-And the these jobs are only for high school and college students thing is BS. First there are restrictions on the amount of time high school students can work, and with a full schedule, even part time schedule in some majors most college students

The supply of labor is just not there from those groups to fill all those positions.

And it only those two groups supplied there labor, the shortage would cause the wage to shoot up

So that argument is just plain doesn't work.

-Lets keep it #1HUNNA it is so easy to vilify the poor in this country because right now the face of the poor is minority communities.
Set minimum wage at $10.10, tie it to inflation, and work on programs and policies that help with upward mobility

The ones that want to pull themselves up will have a chance at doing so, the ones that don't can barely scrap by.
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@RustyShackleford  is always dropping knowledge bombs 
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RustyShackleford RustyShackleford

Bruh, I feel like you have basically articulated the point I'm trying to make. I live in SoCal where min wage is close to 10/hr and going up soon.
 
sea manup said:
minimum wage jobs are supposed to allow you to get by

if you want to live well AND not do anything more than work at mcdonalds you're lazy 
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I make more than they do and do less work but I work for the government so I guess that makes it ok right?



RustyShackleford said:
-The major problem with minimum wage it that is not tied to inflation.

It is all well and good to tell someone that don't deserve to make more, but that is not the argument folk are really making

Saying they should be paid little is one thing, but saying they should also get a paid crap and get a pay cut every year.

-Secondly always come with the "you shouldn't get paid a decent amount for flipping burgers". We what determines a wage is a lot of things, you're suppose to get paid a lil premium if your job is unpleasant and in some way demanding. Standing over a hot grill all day is not easy work, being on feet all day dealing with ****heads is not easy work. I don't see why paying people a decent low wage for this is so unreasonable

There are a lot of low wage/minimum wage workers that work very hard.

-Just saying "oh just get a better job" is like burying your head in the sand because they think that somehow they only reason someone is poor or remains poor is their only their own doing

And with the cost of higher education going up, you're telling poor folk going into tens thousands of dollars of debt is the only way to have a decent living.

If they make so little, and have to work so much, where is the time for classes? If cheap reliable public transportation is not available, how are they gonna get there?

We love telling folk to pull themselves up by their bootstraps all the while cutting programs they can use to do so.

-And the these jobs are only for high school and college students thing is BS. First there are restrictions on the amount of time high school students can work, and with a full schedule, even part time schedule in some majors most college students

The supply of labor is just not there from those groups to fill all those positions.

And it only those two groups supplied there labor, the shortage would cause the wage to shoot up

So that argument is just plain doesn't work.

-Lets keep it #1HUNNA it is so easy to vilify the poor in this country because right now the face of the poor is minority communities.

------Set minimum wage at $10.10, tie it to inflation, and work on programs and policies that help with upward mobility

The ones that want to pull themselves up will have a chance at doing so, the ones that don't can barely scrap by.
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Nah bruh stop making excuses they're just lazy people looking for a handout.


Patrik1tha1 said:
cashbanks cashbanks

You haven't even said anything of substance, so please elaborate on your point. I'm open and listening.

It's like you're saying working as a crossing guard Should be compensated the same as a nurse or teacher.

Like I said, not all jobs are meant for you to be able to live well off of. Please point out how that is illogical. I'm open.
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Yea thats exactly what I'm saying :rolleyes

No thank you, you've said enough for me to grasp your stance and that I don't care to engage you any further on the topic, again you have a good day tho.
 
CashBanks said:
 
sea manup said:
minimum wage jobs are supposed to allow you to get by

if you want to live well AND not do anything more than work at mcdonalds you're lazy 
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I make more than they do and do less work but I work for the government so I guess that makes it ok right?
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good for you, if an organization is willing to pay you money for your service and you agree to the workload in respect to the wage then it's totally fair and okay 
 
RustyShackleford said:
 
Set minimum wage at $10.10, tie it to inflation, and work on programs and policies that help with upward mobility

The ones that want to pull themselves up will have a chance at doing so, the ones that don't can barely scrap by.
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How'd you arrive at $10.10? Pretty specific number, also I'm not sure how many salaries are directly tied to inflation in any industry. Maybe employers increase it just to do it, but I've never seen it specifically pegged in any offer of employment.

Also what happens if there are people willing to work for below the increased minimum wage?
 
yogurt said:
RustyShackleford said:
 
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Set minimum wage at $10.10, tie it to inflation, and work on programs and policies that help with upward mobility


The ones that want to pull themselves up will have a chance at doing so, the ones that don't can barely scrap by.
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How'd you arrive at $10.10? Pretty specific number, also I'm not sure how many salaries are directly tied to inflation in any industry. Maybe employers increase it just to do it, but I've never seen it specifically pegged in any offer of employment.

Also what happens if there are people willing to work for below the increased minimum wage?
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There will always be people willing to do so and that's part of the reason why things are the way they are.
 
sea manup said:
 
minimum wage jobs are supposed to allow you to get by

if you want to live well AND not do anything more than work at mcdonalds you're lazy 
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How is that lazy??

Fast food jobs are busy as hell.

You are literally working and moving your whole shift and dealing with dumb American fat rude customers.

Most of us have went to school and learned a trade to actually get a white collar job and position where we can actually

be lazy and get paid to surf the internet all day or take naps when no one is looking.
 
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yogurt said:
RustyShackleford said:
 
[rule]
Set minimum wage at $10.10, tie it to inflation, and work on programs and policies that help with upward mobility


The ones that want to pull themselves up will have a chance at doing so, the ones that don't can barely scrap by.
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How'd you arrive at $10.10? Pretty specific number, also I'm not sure how many salaries are directly tied to inflation in any industry. Maybe employers increase it just to do it, but I've never seen it specifically pegged in any offer of employment.

Also what happens if there are people willing to work for below the increased minimum wage?
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-$10.10 is the number president Obama put forward, and has been putting forward for the increase. Many states and companies have been setting their minimum wage around that number, so I just used the original figure

-Many people has cost of living increases built into their pay, most probably don't. It is more common in the public sector

And if you skilled enough and have the leverage, you can negotiate for it. But most people find other perks for worthwhile to negotiate for though.

-What happens when people are willing to work for less, but have to get paid more? Ummmmm, they get a surplus

It is like saying what happens if I want to pay $100 for a item, and when I go to the store it is on sale for $80.

I'm not gonna be like "Oh ****, now I have all this extra money"

Unless you meant something else with that question?
 
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RustyShackleford said:
-$10.10 is the number president Obama put forward, and has been putting forward for the increase. Many states and companies have been setting their minimum wage around that number, so I just used the original figure

-Many people has cost of living increases built into their pay, most probably don't. It is more common in the public sector

And if you skilled enough and have the leverage, you can negotiate for it. But most people find other perks for worthwhile to negotiate for though.

-What happens when people are willing to work for less, but have to get paid more? Ummmmm, they get a surplus

It is like saying what happens if I want to pay $100 for a item, and when I go to the store it is on sale for $80.

I'm not gonna be like "Oh ****, now I have all this extra money"

Unless you meant something else with that question?
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Okay first number makes sense, I thought you just threw out an arbitrary number.

Second question I did mean something else. If you're willing to work for $10.10 and I'm willing to work for $6, why would they choose you over me? Obviously I'd like to get more, but I'm also okay with less, what happens then?
 
yogurt said:
Okay first number makes sense, I thought you just threw out an arbitrary number.

Second question I did mean something else. If you're willing to work for $10.10 and I'm willing to work for $6, why would they choose you over me? Obviously I'd like to get more, but I'm also okay with less, what happens then?
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it doesn't matter what you'd be willing to work for if thats what minimum wage is thats what you get

you could go into walmart and tell them you'll work for a dollar an hour but they can't actually employ you at that rate
 
sugafree said:
 
sea manup said:
 
minimum wage jobs are supposed to allow you to get by

if you want to live well AND not do anything more than work at mcdonalds you're lazy 
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How is that lazy??

Fast food jobs are busy as hell.

You are literally working and moving your whole shift and dealing with dumb American fat rude customers.

Most of us have went to school and learned a trade to actually get a white collar job and position where we can actually

be lazy and get paid to surf the internet all day or take naps when no one is looking.
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what you do at your job is irrelevant 

you're lazy if you think complaining is going to improve your situation rather than actually making plays to create a better situation for yourself.

if you have a white collar job and you want a raise but you're not willing to put in extra work or learn extra skils then you're also lazy
 
sea manup said:
 
what you do at your job is irrelevant 
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exactly...especially if it's a job that anyone can do. 

so i don't want to hear about how they heave to deal with fat americans and how they stand all day... eff outta here.
 
This is why this country is sooooo ****** up.

Billionaires do every greedy ******* thing they can to make a buck= no outrage

Working class joe schmo wants to make 600$ a week before taxes at a full time job = people lose their ****
 
"I don't care how hard you work I look down on your profession therefore you don't deserve to make a livable wage"
 
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