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I wouldn't trust an overly religious loony like Cruz in the oval office. Would be just as terrible as Trump tbh.
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This is da whole ethos where ya get it wrong.
Try this logic baggin women..Try this logic at shooting hoops, how about school?
Fams, trying to socially re-engineer every aspect of life cuz people get left behind is beyond impractical to me.
They trying to do away with da single entrance test @ Stuyvesant HIGH SCHOOL because not enuff black & hispanic kids get in, meanwhile that place is crawling with asians, even outnumbering whites, so when i hear "da test
Is racially discriminatory" i feel its intellectually dishonest.
U can legislate equal opportunity, but you cant legislate equal results..
Intellect dishonesty is seeing a clear disparity and instead of seeking a resolution you dismiss it. People with this mentality are lazy and they irk me. "Oh I have to actually work instead of relying on the existing 'one size fits all' rules?"
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Not to mention comparing a high school admission exam to shooting hoops and bagging women. That logic is not necessary with male/female relations and pickup basketball games. These admissions exams have HUGE implications on the lives of these students, and to not acknowledge the fact that some groups start in pole position and others are already behind when the race begins is intellectually dishonest.
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Wow. I dunno who wrote that but think about that statement and how ridiculous it is, lol.
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Enlighten me on why it's ridiculous?
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Expound.
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There may be people who have more talent than you, but there's no excuse for anyone to work harder than you do - and I believe that." - Derek Jeter quotes
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What does that have to do with the original point? In a time where people with your political ideology are always talking about we all have the same rights and the same opportunitiesand the same this and same that. No one has an advantage over the next guy. If everything is equal, why would equal effort = equal results sound ridiculous to you?
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You'll see... its all prophecy
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I think Rusty's point is in the sense of women earning the same wage as men for example. Or a minority getting the same opportunities as a white person with the same qualifications. I think that's pretty clear given the context and what Rusty stands for.
When I read that post I sure as hell didn't think whatever point Ninja and Rocky are trying to convey.
When I read that post I sure as hell didn't think whatever point Ninja and Rocky are trying to convey.
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Since we are applying baseball to political economy, let me extend the metaphor a bit. Suppose every Major League team started every game with runs equal to its franchise total of World Series wins. So the Yankees could start every game with 27 runs and the Colorado Rockies start with no runs. Even a mediocre and bloated Yankees roster would win most years and the following year they would start every game with more runs.
That would sound unfair to some (like us crazy leftists on here) but there would be some who would say that certain teams just have to work harder. Wannabe social scientists in the Conservative press would say that wearing pin stripes is the key to success and that being given 27 or more runs every game is irrelevant. Some would call critics of the new rule "beta males" who need to just get their "grind on and spend more time in da battin' cage." Some folks would say that 1927 was so long ago that even though the Yankees get spotted a run a every game because of that '27 victory, that poorer teams should just "get over it."
Losing teams would be second guessed and derided as morally weak and inferior. Finally, we would have centrists who would suggest that every title poor team, in the interest for fairness be spotted two home runs and then after a heated debate with Republicans, the guaranteed run act of 2016 would grant teams with no World Series titles a half of a run but only for five years and they have to submit to much more stringent drug testing. Ya know, because they're lazy.
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Asians got language barriers and come dirt poor da same way alot of my Hispanic contemporaries do..why would i pull a race card when they flourishing and we're borh minorities?
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That's such a simple way to look at things. The situation is 100 times more complex than you make it out to be.
I would go on and on about the difference between growing up discriminated against in this country, and coming over with an education and a clean slate, but why should I? It's obvious that groups perform differently. If the problem isn't the system, are we to believe that some groups are just genetically more prone to be successful? Or is it that certain groups 'focus on education' as was alluded to earlier in this thread.
Any other explanation you have comes off as ignorant and simplistic to me. I'm willing to be proven wrong, though. Explain to me what it is that generally makes Asians achieve more than Blacks and Hispanics in this country?
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This is da whole ethos where ya get it wrong.
Try this logic baggin women..
Fams, trying to socially re-engineer every aspect of life cuz people get left behind is beyond impractical to me.
They trying to do away with da single entrance test @ Stuyvesant HIGH SCHOOL because not enuff black & hispanic kids get in, meanwhile that place is crawling with asians, even outnumbering whites, so when i hear "da test
Is racially discriminatory" i feel its intellectually dishonest.
U can legislate equal opportunity, but you cant legislate equal results..
I get it now, you don't understand systemic racism, or white supremacy at a deep enough level. You buy into this false idea that America is perfect meritocracy that only the deserving catch the Ws.
I can't top Rex's analogy, but I suggest you read that a couple times and watch his. Don't worry, this guy is a "self made" millionaire, so no need to dismiss his opinion:
This is what I am talking about. Not giving people that do worst for no reason but lack of talent and effort a leg up, but removing the systemic bias from the system. Because systemic bias basically inescapable, you can't out work it.
For example
Controlling for everything else. If tell a woman that makes 70% for producing the same work as her male counterpart that she should work and extra 20 hours a weeks to bridge the pay gap, if she does it and gets a raise, guess what. She just had to worker harder for something strictly based on her sex, additionally chances are if a man made the same effort he would have gotten a bigger raise and a promotion.
These if what that comment is about. Equal effort not getting equal results.
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And once again you're a hypocrite.
You preach this idea that the government should get out the way and let the markets decide economic winner and loser, yet your "cozy life in the heights" has only been made possible because of government intervention in your favor.
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And yet da royals spanked da mets w/ ½ da salary...
"Hard work beat talent if talent dont work hard" -Jadakiss
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It didn't, its called when it all said and done, real world gone real world.
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No actually it didn't.
And I guess that Rex guy is saying that Jeter quote only applies to baseball, k ill cut you some slack, only to sports right?
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Trump is like playing Russian roulette. Cruz is taking a loaded 12-gauge, pointing it at your legs, and pulling the trigger. Dude looks like a burnt noodle too.
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If the analogy didn't go over @ninjahood's head, he sure didn't address it directly.
What's your counter argument since you disagree?No actually it didn't.
And I guess that Rex guy is saying that Jeter quote only applies to baseball, k ill cut you some slack, only to sports right?
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this this this
People who fall for the model minority myth still surprises me.
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It's because they think it's 1925 and people are chasing the murican dreem. I find it funny when people go with "follow the Chinese, Irish and Italians" and realize that they suffered quite as hard.
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Its not a minority "myth" is implying that some groups dont subscribe to da drum beat of
"We're minorities, so we're being discriminated against.. That's why we're not doing good"
Its literally da equivalent of a dude crying at da refs cuz he feels like da calls effing up his ball game game, meanwhile da dude of da other team playing under da same ref NOT complaining and just lettin understanding da flow of da game and flourishing.
In 2016, if u work hard & smart in da USA you gon' suceed.
Minority or not.
Hick Dominicans be comin thru w/ their family visas and in 2 years have a Bimmer, own a barbershop and have 2 dimes pregnant
Everyone wants to win, very few put on that work to do so.
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