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Poll Results: Who would be a better president?

 
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    Hillary Clinton
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    Donald Trump
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Name 1 place on earth where minorities were being treated better...id love to know nerd.gif.

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Considering all the issues that still currently exist in the DR with Haiti, that is the example you want to use

All it does is buttress my point further if i do when u compare what others are going thru vs american centric issues.

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There were non-African countries in the world being lead by black men in the 1960s
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"Da slavery was still goin on in da Africa B"

Doesn't change the fact how horrible it was for minorities in America during the 50s/60s.

Deflection tactics that you learned from your racist I mean republican buddies won't work on me.

How is that deflection when America was STILL da best best place for minorities on planet EARTH? In 1950 my entire family was under Trujillo in DR...Black Americans had more rights back then in Da US vs my aunts & co did in da same time period.

It's a deflection because my post was about America and only America in the 50s/60s.

If I would have said America was the worst place in the entire world for people of color during that time period,

then you would have had a point with your post but I didn't and you don't.

It's crazy how you downplay civil rights like it wasn't a big deal and people were fine with overt racism back then.
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Name 1 place on earth where minorities were being treated better...id love to know nerd.gif.

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I can imagine ninja being alive in the 60's...seeing a protest out his window and stepping over a bunch of converse boxes to open his door. And then pushes through the crowd and somehow takes the podium..

 

"da Arab countries still have slaves and you're all getting greedy and trying to vote?! name one other country where we have more rights. we need to be grateful for da freedom we're allowed to have. look at this enormous picture of one black guy with a white girl. A baby named Mike Tyson and another baby named Michael Jordan live in Brooklyn, and Americans of all colors will one day enjoy them. this is da greatest time this country will ever experience and we need to keep everything da same way."

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Bottomline is ya lookin at da US in a vacuum instead of in da context of da world...

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Going back to when America was great has nothing to do with the context of the rest of da world though.

It's specifically about a period of time in America.

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I can imagine ninja being alive in the 60's...seeing a protest out his window and stepping over a bunch of converse boxes to open his door. And then pushes through the crowd and somehow takes the podium..

"da Arab countries still have slaves and you're all getting greedy and trying to vote?! name one other country where we have more rights. we need to be grateful for da freedom we're allowed to have. look at this enormous picture of one black guy with a white girl. A baby named Mike Tyson and another baby named Michael Jordan live in Brooklyn, and Americans of all colors will one day enjoy them. this is da greatest time this country will ever experience and we need to keep everything da same way."
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Da more ya use "just talking bout America" as a qualifier da more i think ya just kickin dirt to just kick it..da US in da 50's -60's with its booming Economy and its social strife was still da zenith of Human existence on planet Earth.

I want da United States of America to return to its seminal magnum opus status with us around now. Da only way thats happening is with someone who knows WTF they're doin woth da economy.

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Super low standards b.

Rusty nailed it, you sound like a pill addict looking down on somebody hooked on rock. Ya liver still all ****** up son.

Sounds more like moral relativism to me b...

As "bad" as American was for minorities back then, it was still EONS better then being anywhere else on da planet.

And America's economic engine was clickin on all cylinders.

This is ********. Read a ******* history book for ****'s sake.

Accounts from Black folks who could leave the country to go to Europe in the 50s and 60s would tell you how much better they were treated in the UK and France than in the US. Little things like "whites only" signs, lynchings and the tolerance of mob justice towards minorities were exclusive American delicacies by the end of WWII.

Where do you think you'd be in that era? A sharecropper maybe? A factory worker who would still be passed on for promotion in favor of anyone less dark than you because, you know, the factory can't have a black person managing white workers?

It's cool and all to have the confidence thay you would succeed anywhere, but understand the odds would be heavily stacked against you in that era, and only the very best minorities would be given the chance to play minor roles in traditional non-minority industries (almost anywhere of significance). Considering what you post here, I doubt you'd be considered one of them.
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Bottomline is ya lookin at da US in a vacuum instead of in da context of da world...

No no no no.

YOU are looking America in a vacuum, while ignoring the overall context. You want to return America to its past glory, ignoring the fact that the conditions that led to the US being the dominant power no longer exists. We're not coming out of a major global conflict as the least unscathed participant. We do not have a population deficit that would create a situation of near-zero employment. We do not have a competing economic ideology that we need to prove wrong.

The whole schtick about making America great again has to do with a segment of the population that refuses to acknowledge that their success was built on the faulty premise that they were intrinsically worth more than "the others" and as such, deserved more help than others (which they got through favorable government housing and educational programs). An America without civil rights was an America where you could send minorities fight your wars and deny them proper homes upon their return. It did great things, but it wasn't great for everybody.
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"If you don't like every single thing about America just leave"

Such a pathetically childish and myopic view of the world

He said some groups in this country have always had a terrible time. Up to the present day.

I was trying to help him out. They have options.

 

You have the same options too. Based on your comments in this thread you don't seem to like the current state of America, if you don't like the way America is now you can leave too.

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Sounds more like moral relativism to me b...

As "bad" as American was for minorities back then, it was still EONS better then being anywhere else on da planet.

And America's economic engine was clickin on all cylinders.

 

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How is that deflection when America was STILL da best best place for minorities on planet EARTH? In 1950 my entire family was under Trujillo in DR...Black Americans had more rights back then in Da US vs my aunts & co did in da same time period.

 

 

Like legit you're only argument is "it could be worse". What kind of thought process is that? If your job cut your hours, pay rate, and benefits you not gon look over to your coworker and say, "Hey, at least we're not in the oil fields. There are so many layoffs. We got jobs, man. This is great!"

 

It's like you kinda acknowledge that it wasn't the best of times since you understand that as a whole "NOBODY" wanted AA in their country but instead of saying it was bad you decided to state how much worse other places were like that makes everything okay. It doesn't man......like in any way shape or form

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Civil rights is a luxury to have when everybody got food on their plate.
This makes no sense.
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Think about it like this, we had time to do civil rights because economically we were doing so well..you think people cared about civil rights in da great depression when folks of all stripes were eating cat food & had no safety net?
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I can imagine ninja being alive in the 60's...seeing a protest out his window and stepping over a bunch of converse boxes to open his door. And then pushes through the crowd and somehow takes the podium..

 

"da Arab countries still have slaves and you're all getting greedy and trying to vote?! name one other country where we have more rights. we need to be grateful for da freedom we're allowed to have. look at this enormous picture of one black guy with a white girl. A baby named Mike Tyson and another baby named Michael Jordan live in Brooklyn, and Americans of all colors will one day enjoy them. this is da greatest time this country will ever experience and we need to keep everything da same way."


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So because people in other countries don't have rights at all Americans are supposed to be okay with some rights infringement?

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I want da United States of America to return to its seminal magnum opus status with us around now. Da only way thats happening is with someone who knows WTF they're doin woth da economy.

That will never happen because of two major changes. The first being globalization, which has forever changed the landscape and has made it near impossible for a single nation to hold all of the major chips all to themselves. The second and the biggest obstacle is campaign funding. This alone is what has slowly destroyed this country. While conservatives and liberals argue until their blue in the face, corporations are playing chess and our politicians are their pawns. There's only one candidate who wants to tear this down and it's not your beloved Drumpf.
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Ummm Trump aint too hot bout citizens united either.

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Da more ya use "just talking bout America" as a qualifier da more i think ya just kickin dirt to just kick it..da US in da 50's -60's with its booming Economy and its social strife was still da zenith of Human existence on planet Earth.

I want da United States of America to return to its seminal magnum opus status with us around now. Da only way thats happening is with someone who knows WTF they're doin woth da economy.

This has got to be the most naive/stupid/ignorant thing i have read from an individual of color.
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Ummm Trump aint too hot bout citizens united either.

 

He has no intention of dismantling it and his nomination for the Supreme Court wouldn't be the justice to overturn it either.

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Da more ya use "just talking bout America" as a qualifier da more i think ya just kickin dirt to just kick it..da US in da 50's -60's with its booming Economy and its social strife was still da zenith of Human existence on planet Earth.

I want da United States of America to return to its seminal magnum opus status with us around now. Da only way thats happening is with someone who knows WTF they're doin woth da economy.

This has got to be the most naive/stupid/ignorant thing i have read from an individual of color.

Earlier he dropped this gem. "Muslim islamic slave trade made what happened in da United States a pittyparty"

Dude is a certified clown. No way he uses these talking points with other people of color IRL.
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Da more ya use "just talking bout America" as a qualifier da more i think ya just kickin dirt to just kick it..da US in da 50's -60's with its booming Economy and its social strife was still da zenith of Human existence on planet Earth.

I want da United States of America to return to its seminal magnum opus status with us around now. Da only way thats happening is with someone who knows WTF they're doin woth da economy.

This has got to be the most naive/stupid/ignorant thing i have read from an individual of color.

Earlier he dropped this gem. "Muslim islamic slave trade made what happened in da United States a pittyparty"

Dude is a certified clown. No way he uses these talking points with other people of color IRL.

Classic case of "shoot da messenger"

Million MORE people were enslaved for centuries long before and AFTER... You cant even refute my assessment.
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So because people in other countries don't have rights at all Americans are supposed to be okay with some rights infringement?

Obviously it wasn't ideal, but point me to a place on da globe where it was better.
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Da more ya use "just talking bout America" as a qualifier da more i think ya just kickin dirt to just kick it..da US in da 50's -60's with its booming Economy and its social strife was still da zenith of Human existence on planet Earth.

I want da United States of America to return to its seminal magnum opus status with us around now. Da only way thats happening is with someone who knows WTF they're doin woth da economy.

This has got to be the most naive/stupid/ignorant thing i have read from an individual of color.

You got ur opinion, i got mine...i argue there was no better place than people of color of non color in da WORLD than in America, even during da 50's-60's.

If u had a time machine and stood on every country in da world 60+ years back, da United States is still da place to be, and was da legit envy of da world.

Europe never had a civil rights movement

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Earlier he dropped this gem. "Muslim islamic slave trade made what happened in da United States a pittyparty"

Dude is a certified clown. No way he uses these talking points with other people of color IRL.

 

 

He doesn't, that's why he keeps crying about stlffling debate, he wants a pass to spew ignorance.

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Earlier he dropped this gem. "Muslim islamic slave trade made what happened in da United States a pittyparty"

Dude is a certified clown. No way he uses these talking points with other people of color IRL.


He doesn't, that's why he keeps crying about stlffling debate, he wants a pass to spew ignorance.

Sounds like ya got no answer, so its back to da personal 🤔, im still waiting.. Where on EARTH was it better for any human being than in America post World War II...highest middle class ever. which was my implication all along

Soon as ya bring da racial component i add, there was no better place to live than in America ln EARTH. Folks were still Property elsewhere.

Instead of da fake outrage, why dont ya just understand da logic?

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You're right man, I got no answer to "Muslim islamic slave trade made what happened in da United States a pittyparty". You're on your own with that one b, they didn't teach me that in AP history but La Guardia must have known something I don't.:lol

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Sounds like ya got no answer, so its back to da personal 🤔, im still waiting.. Where on EARTH was it better for any human being than in America post World War II...highest middle class ever. which was my implication all along

Soon as ya bring da racial component i add, there was no better place to live than in America ln EARTH. Folks were still Property elsewhere.

Instead of da fake outrage, why dont ya just understand da logic?

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Like I get it....but no. Just because the US was the best of all the evils does it make it a suitable or acceptable. The "could be worse" argument doesn't work because no one brought it up as a point, you threw it out there

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Sounds like ya got no answer, so its back to da personal 🤔, im still waiting.. Where on EARTH was it better for any human being than in America post World War II...highest middle class ever. which was my implication all along


Soon as ya bring da racial component i add, there was no better place to live than in America ln EARTH. Folks were still Property elsewhere.


Instead of da fake outrage, why dont ya just understand da logic?


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Like I get it....but no. Just because the US was the best of all the evils does it make it a suitable or acceptable. The "could be worse" argument doesn't work because no one brought it up as a point, you threw it out there

Cuz no one wants to look at da world as a WHOLE and understand that minorities had it bad EVERYWHERE.

If im a minority in da 1960's, life was awesome compared to anywhere else on earth.

Where else on Earth is a pathway to da middle class & homeownership even a option?

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