Donald Trump is running for president

[harlemtothebronx]

Lets not run this "both sides are the same" talk doe. The level of buffoonery is off the charts in the GOP right now

Absolutely.

I definitely agree. I just don't want to come off as biased here. I think the two party system is what incubates this ignorance. It's the overlying issue to me.

Side note: anyone see Ellen Page and Ted Cruz debate gay marriage on Gaycation on ViceLand?

 

[RustyShackleford]

[emoji]128580[/emoji] when are u going to understand that

Da party you represent abandoned da working

Man for elites decades ago? NOTHING I've

Written about is misinformation

Scare tactics? I seen you're ignorant about

Late term abortion law that NYC is tryin to pass

And frankly Senator Sanders is disgusting

In his abortion policies.

*ahem*

http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2016/03/hillary-clinton-late-term-abortions

During a Fox News town hall on Monday night, Clinton and Sanders were asked about their position on late-term abortions. Sanders' stance was easy to discern: He opposes abortion restrictions, full stop.

-Your mixing up my party affiliation with my political philosophy for your convenience. Being a progressive doesn't instantly make you a democrat

I am both but you can't just use them interchangeably as you like because one argument ran out of seem.

-Yes misinformation, acting like the far left in this country is anything like the far left socialist from generations ago.

Bernie Sanders is advocating social democracy, not socialism They are not the same

Social democracy is based on capitalism.

And again, the progressives of today are not the same as the progressive of 100 years ago.

So yes, misinformation

 

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THE COMMIES ARE COMING TO ABORT YOUR CHILDREN AND STERILIZE YOUR SISTER.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Lets not run this "both sides are the same" talk doe. The level of buffoonery is off the charts in the GOP right now

Absolutely.

I definitely agree. I just don't want to come off as biased here. I think the two party system is what incubates this ignorance. It's the overlying issue to me.

Side note: anyone see Ellen Page and Ted Cruz debate gay marriage on Gaycation on ViceLand?

-The two party system can work perfectly find, countries with multiple parties have their won problems. The two party system really just short cuts the coalition forming process. But there is too much money in politics, Citizen's United has been disastrous

Look at how the Blue Dogs held up Obama, or the Tea Party holds up the GOP is Congress

-What needs to happen is that the primary system needs to become more popular. That way different arms of the can appeal to voters earlier on and find out what people want

And different factions should be able to flourish together. That progressive democrats can flourish in the northern part of the country, and moderate dems can flourish n the South. Same things with the GOP, that moderates and libertarians don't have to baggage of the Tea Party types.

And that is why I feel that folk should pay attention to all elections, federal, state, local, primary. That way factions can form within parties, candidates will be free to break from the national platform, and third party candidates and independents will have a better shot

 

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Runoff voting would help a lot. Good luck fixing the machine though, it's a petrol motor with diesel in the tank.

 

[ninjahood]

Lets not run this "both sides are the same" talk doe. The level of buffoonery is off the charts in the GOP right now

Take ownership to having part of da blame of

Extreme polarization, cuz frankily da abortion issue is just 1 aspect of extremes

In both parties. Ive YET to see your

Admission of guilt that da Democrat party

Abandoned working class.

 

[ninjahood]

Why is abortion important to a male? Why is invasion of privacy important to someone with nothing to hide?

How u would you like it if a chick u got

Pregnant and was gonna have ur son decided

She had enuff of you for w/e reason and was

Gonna terminate a 8 month trimester

pregnancy? Are u not as a father willing to

Hold any kind of objection to that?

Late term abortion is flat out murder...

Im pro choice sure, but there'sNO REASON laws should allow a viable baby fetus that stage in pregnancy to be termniated.

Spoiler

WHERE IS THIS CURRENTLY LEGAL NINJA? WHERE!!!!????

You sound crazy here b. Abortion is already currently legal. The main problem state to state is how they try to make it close to impossible for females to make use of those services by spreading misinformation, relocating and shutting down clinics and PP spots, etc.

I must've been lost in the sauce when any term abortions was legal.

I can totally understand a man's argument for wanting a child and not having a say in a pregnancy but you just went ahead an invalidated it all with this 8 month termination nonsense.

How is it nonsense when da militant feminist

Dont want ANY barriers in abortion period?

That's Bernie Sanders position.

 

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How is it nonsense when da militant feminist

Dont want ANY barriers in abortion period?

That's Bernie Sanders position.

Better than the other one. I can live with 8,500 late abortions, but I can't live with day after pills being taken away or nutjobs adopting a good portion of 800k babies.

 

[Master Zik]

Why is abortion important to a male? Why is invasion of privacy important to someone with nothing to hide?

How u would you like it if a chick u got

Pregnant and was gonna have ur son decided

She had enuff of you for w/e reason and was

Gonna terminate a 8 month trimester

pregnancy? Are u not as a father willing to

Hold any kind of objection to that?

Late term abortion is flat out murder...

Im pro choice sure, but there'sNO REASON laws should allow a viable baby fetus that stage in pregnancy to be termniated.

Spoiler

WHERE IS THIS CURRENTLY LEGAL NINJA? WHERE!!!!????

You sound crazy here b. Abortion is already currently legal. The main problem state to state is how they try to make it close to impossible for females to make use of those services by spreading misinformation, relocating and shutting down clinics and PP spots, etc.

I must've been lost in the sauce when any term abortions was legal.

I can totally understand a man's argument for wanting a child and not having a say in a pregnancy but you just went ahead an invalidated it all with this 8 month termination nonsense.

How is it nonsense when da militant feminist

Dont want ANY barriers in abortion period?

Cuz they're ******* militant feminists.

We got crazy ppl that want all types of **** in this country; waste money on border walls, banning ppl for their religious affiliation, etc.

They aint getting what they want the same way the other side aint getting victims of rape being forced to see their pregnancies through.

That's Bernie Sanders position.

Well Bernie's ******* buggin then.

 

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Cuz they're ******* militant feminists.

We got crazy ppl that want all types of **** in this country; waste money on border walls, banning ppl for their religious affiliation, etc.

They aint getting what they want the same way the other side aint getting victims of rape being forced to see their pregnancies through.
Well Bernie's ******* buggin then.

Amen.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Lets not run this "both sides are the same" talk doe. The level of buffoonery is off the charts in the GOP right now

Take ownership to having part of da blame of

Extreme polarization, cuz frankily da abortion issue is just 1 aspect of extremes

In both parties. Ive YET to see your

Admission of guilt that da Democrat party

Abandoned working class.

Let put aside all

Abandoned the working class? You keep this Drumpf talking point over and over like I am suppose to know what the hell you are talking about?

----------Are talking about NAFTA? Because all of a sudden you care about da free trade

Yes Democrats played a hand in that. You see me denying that fact? You gonna admit the origins NAFTA traced back to Reagan doe?



Someone you love to commend

Any free trade agreements are not meant to create jobs, you get lower prices for **** in exchange for jobs. The things is that a few pay, for many to benefit.

All these Drumpf supporters that hate free trade now, I wonder how many crap they have bought from Wal-Mart.

I'm more that willing to pay more for my consumer goods, food, and clothing to bring some jobs back

Are you?

BTW, jobs won't come flooding back anyway, at least not the great manufacturing ones of decades ago, and they probably won't be unionized like before, which is what made them so great to begin with)

You don't see me advocating for trade these deals, I'm just honest about how they work.

-And if you want a strong middle class, you need unions, and a social safety net.

The biggest thing we can do for working class people is a jobs bill to get the quality work, making sure everyone has affordable good health coverage, and can educate their children cheaply.

And there is hardly any middle ground on these issues, one side supports it, one side doesn't. Period

So yes, some democrats had a hand to play in current states of affairs.

But being a democrat doesn't mean I support everything every member of the party has ever done. That is the weakest argument anyone can make.

Conservatives like you like to claim independent (you can be an independent conservative btw, just to remind you) to be able to distance yourself from the buffoonery on the right

Even though Drumpf has a point about trade, doesn't mean his solutions to the problem, and the outcomes to the solutions making many sense.

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Now are you ready to admit you were spreading straight BS by saying I support the same ideologies of totalitarian socialist and members of eugenics movement

Are you ready to set the record straight on that BS? Hmmm

 

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Really the ****** trade deals are probably the only way forward. When Detroit started pumping out garbage, that was the beginning of Murica's demise as an economic powerhouse. Not just Reaganomics which is the scapegoat for our piss poor industry.

It's how captalism rolls, you can't stop it.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Really the ****** trade deals are probably the only way forward. When Detroit started pumping out garbage, that was the beginning of Murica's demise as an economic powerhouse. Not just Reaganomics which is the scapegoat for our piss poor industry.

America's economic demise started when the country turned towards neoliberalism, and away from shared prosperity/social democracy

And this was accelerated after the Civil Rights act was passed

 

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America's economic demise started when the country turned towards neoliberalism, and away from shared prosperity/social democracy

And this was accelerated after the Civil Rights act was passed

The collapse of the original Republican and KKK Democratic Party basically gave us that. There's now a definite line between the two. Whereas for all the stupid things the old Dem party did, the two actually co-operated on things.

 

[RustyShackleford]

America's economic demise started when the country turned towards neoliberalism, and away from shared prosperity/social democracy

And this was accelerated after the Civil Rights act was passed

The collapse of the original Republican and KKK Democratic Party basically gave us that. There's now a definite line between the two. Whereas for all the stupid things the old Dem party did, the two actually co-operated on things.

Sidenote:

The Dixiecrats were just Southern Democrats. They were a faction of the party not all Dems were racist like them. There was also a northern Progressive are that was calling for rapid de segregation and federally protections for blacks

You think Southern Republicans were any less racist? It was mainly a regional thing. Mostly racist Southerners, less racist Northerners. LINK

There is plenty of good, and bad, both parties cooperated on.

PS; Supply side economics have provide to be a failed experiment over and over. The principles are sound but America is not the country supply siders think it to be.

 

[ninjahood]

Lets not run this "both sides are the same" talk doe. The level of buffoonery is off the charts in the GOP right now

Take ownership to having part of da blame of

Extreme polarization, cuz frankily da abortion issue is just 1 aspect of extremes

In both parties. Ive YET to see your

Admission of guilt that da Democrat party

Abandoned working class.

Let put aside all

Abandoned the working class? You keep this Drumpf talking point over and over like I am suppose to know what the hell you are talking about?

----------Are talking about NAFTA? Because all of a sudden you care about da free trade

Yes Democrats played a hand in that. You see me denying that fact? You gonna admit the origins NAFTA traced back to Reagan doe?



Someone you love to commend

Any free trade agreements are not meant to create jobs, you get lower prices for **** in exchange for jobs. The things is that a few pay, for many to benefit.

All these Drumpf supporters that hate free trade now, I wonder how many crap they have bought from Wal-Mart.

I'm more that willing to pay more for my consumer goods, food, and clothing to bring some jobs back

Are you?

BTW, jobs won't come flooding back anyway, at least not the great manufacturing ones of decades ago, and they probably won't be unionized like before, which is what made them so great to begin with)

You don't see me advocating for trade these deals, I'm just honest about how they work.

-And if you want a strong middle class, you need unions, and a social safety net.

At da end of da day slick willie was da

President that Signed NAFTA over da warnings

Of...

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This is why Hillary Clinton cant get anywhere

Near That white house. She got so many strings attached to her she might as well be muppet character, cuz everything she says is in da interest of her elite power base apparatus.

Rusty must've forgot Wal-Marts are banned

In NYC for da most part.

Trump isnt touching entitlement programs

So idk where ur coming from that, and Obama

Care which is a known loser was da brainchild of Mitt Romney's policies as Governor of Massachusetts.

Now are you ready to admit you were spreading straight BS by saying I support the same ideologies of totalitarian socialist and members of eugenics movement

Just cuz u denounce it doesn't mean it doesn't exist in da side of da spectrum you

Operate from, unless of course you're willing

To admit that Donald Trump's rheoritc has little to do with white supremacy

And more to do With da constituency

Of working class folks who many happen to be white finding his message their voice because

So many have ignored how devastating free trade has been to da middle class.[/Video]

 

[ninjahood]

What you fail to account is da Democratic party abandoned their base of da working class everyday American for da professional elite class...and those people are pissed.

[Video]

You, Colombia, and Rusty, and any other self

Self describe liberal would be well served

To watch this video on one of your own putting da mirror to you and telling ya how ya lost ya way & sold out ya constituency for da cronies on wall street & multinational corporations who dont have American workings best case scenarios in mind.[/Video]

[Video]


You didn't address any of the points I made, Trump supporters are the uneducated, lower IQ, poor masses....that's a FACT.[/video]

[Video]

So are many in Bernie's camp...whats your

Point? That we shun these people who didn't

Wanna go to college into da abysss that

elites like to put their noses up to?

Are u gonna talk about da LARGE electorate

Number of minority voters with low IQ who

Vote Democrat with da same disdain? [/video]

 

[RustyShackleford]

Damn all you do is deflect. Especially when present with facts

Wall-Mart banned in NYC, the hell does that have to do with anything.

Go check the tags on your sneakers, and on Drumpf's ties

And I'm not admitting nothing. Besides a certain few, everyone will look at the nonsense you tried to tie to me as a weak, historically out of context, desperate admit to deflect.

Trump main draw is his white supremacy, I will not stop saying that. Most of his damn base, including you, seem to not know much about trade except what Trump tells you

Trump is a bigot spew white supremacy, and most of his supporters are drawn to him for that fact

Because if they cared so much, they could have gotten the honest denouncement of NAFTA from Bernie Sanders, but chose to rock with the bigot.

 

[ninjahood]

Trump supporters love beating around the Bush, we ask how come they are heavily supported by Nazis and kkk and dumb people...and they go on tangents.

2 can play this game, are u going to stop beating around da bush as answer why da Hillary & bernie supporters are comprised of

Militant feminist, environmental whackos,
Dumb people, and domestic terrorists like

Bill ayers?

Da whole point is u have no control over who

You appeal to, or else da claim that that video games and gangsta rap music incites and inspires violence would've stuck in da 80's.

 

[ninjahood]

Damn all you do is deflect. Especially when present with facts

Wall-Mart banned in NYC, the hell does that have to do with anything.

And I'm not admitting nothing. Besides a certain few, everyone will look at the nonsense you tried to tie to me as a weak, historically out of context, desperate admit to deflect.

Trump main draw is his white supremacy, I will not stop saying that. Most of his damn base, including you, seem to not know much about it except what Trump tells you

Trump is a bigot spew white supremacy, and most of his supporters are drawn to him for that fact

Because if they cared so much, they could have gotten the honest denouncement of NAFTA from Bernie Sanders, but chose to rock with the bigot.

U know by accusing me of "deflecting"

You are actually deflecting right?

U absolutely gave no credence to FACTS of

Trump's appeal to da working class...facts

That been presented by liberals like

Thomas Frank...yeah..do as i say, not as i do

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[ninjahood]

So are many in Bernie's camp...whats your

Point? That we shun these people who didn't

Wanna go to college into da abysss that

elites like to put their noses up to?

Are u gonna talk about da LARGE electorate

Number of minority voters with low IQ who

Vote Democrat with da same disdain?

Look stop forcing Trump stereotypes on college educated, young people from New England and the west coast. Trump supporters are uneducated, that's a fact. You're deflecting just like you choose to ignore the fact that neonazis view him favorably.

Do u really want me to post da exit polls

Of Trump's appeal with da college educated?

Cuz that thin rope u clinging to bout to

break

With your logic rap & call of duty appeals to

Thugs & sociopaths..dumbs arguments folks like Tipper Gore & Joseph Lieberman made in

Regarding video games & rap music that were

Debunked.

 

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The idea that Trump can't control who he appeals to is so damn stupid

 

[ninjahood]

The idea that Trump can't control who he appeals to is so damn stupid

Word, its like a woman wearing a skimpy skirt

And attracting rapists...its her fault for

Wearing da skirt... Oh wait [emoji]128580[/emoji]

 

[SneakerProSr.]

The idea that Trump can't control who he appeals to is so damn stupid

Word, its like a woman wearing a skimpy skirt

And attracting rapists...its her fault for

Wearing da skirt... Oh wait [emoji]128580[/emoji]

Yeah man you can go back on hiatus.

 

[seandon23]

Word, its like a woman wearing a skimpy skirt

And attracting rapists...its her fault for

Wearing da skirt... Oh wait [emoji]128580[/emoji]

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