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Im going to the Blazers Vs Cavs game Dec 8.
I have to see the Cavs play this year!
I have to see the Cavs play this year!
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What's up guys! Schedule looks solid. Christmas day should be really fun. I hope to catch a home cavs game this season.
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Sasha Kaun in Cleveland visiting .didnt realize a deal was 'imminent'
http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2015/08/sasha_kaun_visiting_cleveland_cavaliers.html
Q Cook got that camp invite , nice to see even if he doesnt stick
Read that the Cavs are offering JR less that was expected, but since no other teams showing much if any interest, will end up signing for 1 yr, which is all that is being offered, then try luck when cap goes up
i honestly thought TT would be signed by now
http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2015/08/sasha_kaun_visiting_cleveland_cavaliers.html
Q Cook got that camp invite , nice to see even if he doesnt stick
Read that the Cavs are offering JR less that was expected, but since no other teams showing much if any interest, will end up signing for 1 yr, which is all that is being offered, then try luck when cap goes up
i honestly thought TT would be signed by now
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I can't find it but I read an interesting article the other day about the JR situation. It basically said that (obviously) he regrets not taking the extension but the Cavs would be stupid to offer him something too cheap - clearly he's valuable but he also has a bit of history and if he feels underpaid then he could spend the season sulking. It seems like the conclusion is that they'll pay him about $6m anyway.
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JR should be accepting that offer. afterall he hasn't be a constant performer. in the finals he only had one good game.
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Here's Kaun and Mozgov years ago. It's my understanding Kaun was drafted 2nd round in 08 but at age 30 is just now making the jump.
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wow. nice find good sir
from what im told the team he plays on is one of the best , not like he is playin cyo ball or anything. IMHO he would be an amazing additon. 1. we already saw how well a player who has played for Blatt before performs 2. mr verajao gets ALOT more rest and that is never a bad thing 3. i wanna see russian twin towers !
cavs,knicks and heat after j crawford ?????? if the cavs get him, which i dont htink they will, would that mean no JR ?????
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found on probasketballtalk
Regardless of what people believe Tristan is worth, he's the beneficiary of some good luck due to maximum exposure with Kevin Love going down last spring. No way do I agree that Tristan should make what his "percieved peers" earned this off season. I think he's significantly behind Marc Gasol, LaMarcus Aldridge, Kevin Love, DeAndre Jordan, Greg Monroe, Draymond Green, Brook Lopez, Paul Millsap and Tim Duncan.
I believe the Cavs offer of over $16 million was generous.
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Preseason schedule released:
Wednesday, October 7 - vs. Atlanta at 7:00 p.m. at Cintas Center (Xavier University)*
Thursday, October 8 - @ Philadelphia at 7:00 p.m.
Monday, October 12 - vs. Memphis at 7:00 p.m. at Schottenstein Center (The Ohio State University)*
Tuesday, October 13 - vs. Milwaukee at 7:00 p.m. at Quicken Loans Arena
Thursday, October 15 - vs. Indiana at 7:00 p.m. at Quicken Loans Arena
Sunday, October 18 - @ Toronto at 6:00 p.m.
Monday, October 19 - vs. Dallas at 7:00 p.m. at Quicken Loans Arena
Wednesday, October 7 - vs. Atlanta at 7:00 p.m. at Cintas Center (Xavier University)*
Thursday, October 8 - @ Philadelphia at 7:00 p.m.
Monday, October 12 - vs. Memphis at 7:00 p.m. at Schottenstein Center (The Ohio State University)*
Tuesday, October 13 - vs. Milwaukee at 7:00 p.m. at Quicken Loans Arena
Thursday, October 15 - vs. Indiana at 7:00 p.m. at Quicken Loans Arena
Sunday, October 18 - @ Toronto at 6:00 p.m.
Monday, October 19 - vs. Dallas at 7:00 p.m. at Quicken Loans Arena
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wow, not holding back on the TT situation, i do agree that all those players listed r 'better' than TT,and the glaring fact is if that mean lady in boston didnt hurt KLOVE, things would have been alot different. TT always very effective when in the game, just wouldnt have been in close to as much if things didnt play out as they did. that being said i still REALLY want them to sign him,even if for just 1 year FOR NOW, i LOVE watching him work the offensive boards.
good looks kdawg. here is the ticket info for cats who are blessed to be close enuff to catch 1 or 2. looks like day after thanksgiving in charlotte is my best bet. gonna take the wife to see Greatest Show Above Earth
Tickets will go on sale to the public on Sept. 10 at 10 a.m. for home games at Discount Drug Mart locations, the Quicken Loans Arena box office and cavs.com. Tickets to the games in Cincinnati and Columbus will be available at the Cintas Center, the Schottenstein Center, Ticketmaster and cavs.com.
wheres FinallyFamous been at ? hope he is well and all
good looks kdawg. here is the ticket info for cats who are blessed to be close enuff to catch 1 or 2. looks like day after thanksgiving in charlotte is my best bet. gonna take the wife to see Greatest Show Above Earth
Tickets will go on sale to the public on Sept. 10 at 10 a.m. for home games at Discount Drug Mart locations, the Quicken Loans Arena box office and cavs.com. Tickets to the games in Cincinnati and Columbus will be available at the Cintas Center, the Schottenstein Center, Ticketmaster and cavs.com.
wheres FinallyFamous been at ? hope he is well and all
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JR BACK!
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Welcome back JR!
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We are now six weeks into free-agency and Cleveland Cavaliers restricted free-agent Tristan Thompson has yet to sign a contract. At the beginning of the free-agency frenzy, it was reported that the Toronto native was close to signing a five-year, $80 million contract with the Cavaliers, but the negotiations eventually ended.
Though Thompson, a top-five pick in the 2011 NBA draft, expects to sign a near-max deal, the Cavaliers are reportedly offering him much less money. Reports from Brian Windhorst of ESPN indicate that if the Cavaliers sign Thompson to a one-year deal he will leave the ball-club in the summer of 2016.
“If [Thompson] is on the qualifying offer, [this] will be his last year with the Cavs,” agent Rich Paul told several media outlets, including ESPN.
The qualifying offer Mr. Paul is referring to is worth $6.8 million, and will allow his client to become an unrestricted free-agent next summer. The thought of Tristan Thompson leaving the Cleveland Cavaliers is, and should be, frightening to most fans. The four-year pro has averaged 10.1 points and 8.4 rebounds throughout his career with the wine and gold.
When the Cavaliers acquired Kevin Love from the Minnesota Timberwolves, Tristan Thompson was forced to switch roles and become a contributor from the bench. In his one season coming from the bench, the 24-year-old averaged 8.5 points and 8 rebounds, including 3.3 offensive rebounds-per-game, which is good enough for top-five in the league.
Thompson’s ability to crash the boards and play in the pick-and-roll has made him one of the top free-agents on the market. During the Cavaliers’ finals run, the former Texas Longhorn filled in for an injured Kevin Love, who had season-ending shoulder surgery during the first round of the playoffs, and failed to disappoint. During the Cavaliers’ tear through the Eastern conference playoffs, Thompson managed to average 9.6 points, 10.8 rebounds and an amazing 4.4 offensive rebounds-per-game.
“If Thompson were to be an unrestricted free-agent next summer”, an NBA GM told ESPN,”and he’s healthy he will probably be one of the top free-agents available.”
Knowing general managers around the association have high praise for Tristan Thompson, I can’t stop asking myself: Is he really worth a max-contract. One could argue that Thompson is simply over-pricing himself based off of the fact he is a bench player whose main contribution is grabbing rebounds, but if you dig a little deeper you may see that Thompson plays a bigger role for the Cavaliers.
An easy way to find out how much “Double T” is actually worth is comparing him to his peers. Throughout free-agency there has been multiple big-men to earn a significant pay raise, and some may be considered not as good as Tristan Thompson.
Enes Kanter: Four-Years, $70 Million ($17 million-per-year)
The Oklahoma City Thunder inked the four-year center to an enormous contract. After spending three seasons with the Utah Jazz where he averaged just 9.3 points and 6.4 rebounds-pet-game, Kanter the product of a three-team trade where the Jazz received Grant Jerrett, Kendrick Perkins, Tibor Pleiss and a 2017 first-round draft pick.
In 26 games with the Thunder, Kanter’s numbers rose significantly. His scoring production increased to 18.7 points-per-game and he managed to haul down a career-high 11.0 rebounds-per-game. Though his time in time in Oklahoma City has been short, and the team was without former MVP Kevin Durant, Enes Kanter improved all-around, leading to a hefty contract.
Tyson Chandler, Four-Years, $52 million ($13 million-per-year)
Chandler, a 14-year veteran, earned his contract based off his protect the paint, grab rebounds, and give a respectable scoring total. Throughout his career, the seven-footer has maintained an average of 8.8 points, 9.3 rebounds and 1.3 blocks-per-game. On top of his respectable numbers, Chandler also has a “Defensive Player of the Year”award (2011-12) and an NBA Championship (2011) under his belt.
Not only did Phoenix sign Chandler based off his ability to block shots, but they also needed his veteran experience. For the past two seasons, the Suns have been on the outskirts of the Western conference playoff picture. Tyson Chandler is the type of player the Suns feel can push them into the eighth seed or better.
Amir Johnson, Two-Years, $24 million ($12 million-per-year)
This signing was surprising to me. Johnson has averaged double-digit points just twice in his career, and the Boston Celtics already have players like Jared Sullinger, Kelly Olynyk and Tyler Zeller on their roster. The only logical explanation I can think of for this move is the C’s needed to replace Brandon Bass, who signed with the Los Angeles Lakers, and Johnson was the next-best option.
Throughout his career with the Detroit Pistons and Toronto Raptors, Johnson has averaged 7.6 points, 5.7 rebounds, 1.1 assists and 1.1 blocks-per-game. Much like the situation with the Celtics, the Raptors had a crowded front-court with players like Jonas Valanciunas, Patrick Patterson, and they have even brought in Bismack Biyombo. Boston will give Amir Johnson the ability to grow his game in more ways than one, so they may hope he grows into a $12 million-per-year-worthy player.
Now where does Tristan Thompson stack up among these players. During the 2014-15 regular season he turned down a four-year, $52 million contract from the Cavaliers. Knowing this, Thompson must value himself higher than Tyson Chandler, who signed an identical contract. Although Chandler averaged more points and blocks than Thompson, he didn’t average as many rebounds — Thompson’s specialty.
As mentioned before, Thompson want’s around $16 million-per-year. This means he is in the same ballpark as Enes Kanter, but isn’t demanding as much money. Though Kanter’s contract size came off as a surprise to most, he did average more points and rebounds than Thompson. It’s difficult to measure how much Kanter contributed to his team’s success since his sample size with the Thunder is relatively small. Nonetheless, he finally lived up to his third overall pick status, which is good enough for the Thunder.
The Cleveland Cavaliers are now over the salary cap, but are still able to sign Thompson because he is a restricted free-agent. If I were to put a price on Tristan Thompson, it’d be anywhere from $13 million-per-year to $15 million-per-year. In my humble opinion, Thompson is pricing himself at just the right price. He really impressed throughout the playoffs when Kevin Love went down with injury, and proved he is a key piece to the Cavaliers.
We are now six weeks into free-agency and Cleveland Cavaliers restricted free-agent Tristan Thompson has yet to sign a contract. At the beginning of the free-agency frenzy, it was reported that the Toronto native was close to signing a five-year, $80 million contract with the Cavaliers, but the negotiations eventually ended.
Though Thompson, a top-five pick in the 2011 NBA draft, expects to sign a near-max deal, the Cavaliers are reportedly offering him much less money. Reports from Brian Windhorst of ESPN indicate that if the Cavaliers sign Thompson to a one-year deal he will leave the ball-club in the summer of 2016.
“If [Thompson] is on the qualifying offer, [this] will be his last year with the Cavs,” agent Rich Paul told several media outlets, including ESPN.
The qualifying offer Mr. Paul is referring to is worth $6.8 million, and will allow his client to become an unrestricted free-agent next summer. The thought of Tristan Thompson leaving the Cleveland Cavaliers is, and should be, frightening to most fans. The four-year pro has averaged 10.1 points and 8.4 rebounds throughout his career with the wine and gold.
When the Cavaliers acquired Kevin Love from the Minnesota Timberwolves, Tristan Thompson was forced to switch roles and become a contributor from the bench. In his one season coming from the bench, the 24-year-old averaged 8.5 points and 8 rebounds, including 3.3 offensive rebounds-per-game, which is good enough for top-five in the league.
Thompson’s ability to crash the boards and play in the pick-and-roll has made him one of the top free-agents on the market. During the Cavaliers’ finals run, the former Texas Longhorn filled in for an injured Kevin Love, who had season-ending shoulder surgery during the first round of the playoffs, and failed to disappoint. During the Cavaliers’ tear through the Eastern conference playoffs, Thompson managed to average 9.6 points, 10.8 rebounds and an amazing 4.4 offensive rebounds-per-game.
“If Thompson were to be an unrestricted free-agent next summer”, an NBA GM told ESPN,”and he’s healthy he will probably be one of the top free-agents available.”
Knowing general managers around the association have high praise for Tristan Thompson, I can’t stop asking myself: Is he really worth a max-contract. One could argue that Thompson is simply over-pricing himself based off of the fact he is a bench player whose main contribution is grabbing rebounds, but if you dig a little deeper you may see that Thompson plays a bigger role for the Cavaliers.
An easy way to find out how much “Double T” is actually worth is comparing him to his peers. Throughout free-agency there has been multiple big-men to earn a significant pay raise, and some may be considered not as good as Tristan Thompson.
Enes Kanter: Four-Years, $70 Million ($17 million-per-year)
The Oklahoma City Thunder inked the four-year center to an enormous contract. After spending three seasons with the Utah Jazz where he averaged just 9.3 points and 6.4 rebounds-pet-game, Kanter the product of a three-team trade where the Jazz received Grant Jerrett, Kendrick Perkins, Tibor Pleiss and a 2017 first-round draft pick.
In 26 games with the Thunder, Kanter’s numbers rose significantly. His scoring production increased to 18.7 points-per-game and he managed to haul down a career-high 11.0 rebounds-per-game. Though his time in time in Oklahoma City has been short, and the team was without former MVP Kevin Durant, Enes Kanter improved all-around, leading to a hefty contract.
Tyson Chandler, Four-Years, $52 million ($13 million-per-year)
Chandler, a 14-year veteran, earned his contract based off his protect the paint, grab rebounds, and give a respectable scoring total. Throughout his career, the seven-footer has maintained an average of 8.8 points, 9.3 rebounds and 1.3 blocks-per-game. On top of his respectable numbers, Chandler also has a “Defensive Player of the Year”award (2011-12) and an NBA Championship (2011) under his belt.
Not only did Phoenix sign Chandler based off his ability to block shots, but they also needed his veteran experience. For the past two seasons, the Suns have been on the outskirts of the Western conference playoff picture. Tyson Chandler is the type of player the Suns feel can push them into the eighth seed or better.
Amir Johnson, Two-Years, $24 million ($12 million-per-year)
This signing was surprising to me. Johnson has averaged double-digit points just twice in his career, and the Boston Celtics already have players like Jared Sullinger, Kelly Olynyk and Tyler Zeller on their roster. The only logical explanation I can think of for this move is the C’s needed to replace Brandon Bass, who signed with the Los Angeles Lakers, and Johnson was the next-best option.
Throughout his career with the Detroit Pistons and Toronto Raptors, Johnson has averaged 7.6 points, 5.7 rebounds, 1.1 assists and 1.1 blocks-per-game. Much like the situation with the Celtics, the Raptors had a crowded front-court with players like Jonas Valanciunas, Patrick Patterson, and they have even brought in Bismack Biyombo. Boston will give Amir Johnson the ability to grow his game in more ways than one, so they may hope he grows into a $12 million-per-year-worthy player.
Now where does Tristan Thompson stack up among these players. During the 2014-15 regular season he turned down a four-year, $52 million contract from the Cavaliers. Knowing this, Thompson must value himself higher than Tyson Chandler, who signed an identical contract. Although Chandler averaged more points and blocks than Thompson, he didn’t average as many rebounds — Thompson’s specialty.
As mentioned before, Thompson want’s around $16 million-per-year. This means he is in the same ballpark as Enes Kanter, but isn’t demanding as much money. Though Kanter’s contract size came off as a surprise to most, he did average more points and rebounds than Thompson. It’s difficult to measure how much Kanter contributed to his team’s success since his sample size with the Thunder is relatively small. Nonetheless, he finally lived up to his third overall pick status, which is good enough for the Thunder.
The Cleveland Cavaliers are now over the salary cap, but are still able to sign Thompson because he is a restricted free-agent. If I were to put a price on Tristan Thompson, it’d be anywhere from $13 million-per-year to $15 million-per-year. In my humble opinion, Thompson is pricing himself at just the right price. He really impressed throughout the playoffs when Kevin Love went down with injury, and proved he is a key piece to the Cavaliers.
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OH HELL YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!
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2015-08-22 21:39:40 UTC
Source: Cavaliers, Sasha Kaun to sign two-season agreement.
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2015-08-22 21:39:40 UTC
Source: Cavaliers, Sasha Kaun to sign two-season agreement.
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He played at Kansas when they had Mario Chalmers
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Ohhhh ok
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good sir he is 7 feet bout 255. he played for the russian team that won bronze in london, very familiar with coach blatt and we all saw how well that can work out laready
imho this helps keep Verajao's minutes lower , also good back up for Mozgod. he has never played a minute of nba ball so that needs to be taken into account for sure,though the team he is on now is one of the better ones in russia,im told. good shot blocker. 10-12 mins a game once things get rolling, early on we may not see too much of him . definately makes the pre season games even more interesting . im excited to see how it all works out and to watch how his familiarity with Moz and Blatt pays off.
dont forget Brandon Rush JoeClear
imho this helps keep Verajao's minutes lower , also good back up for Mozgod. he has never played a minute of nba ball so that needs to be taken into account for sure,though the team he is on now is one of the better ones in russia,im told. good shot blocker. 10-12 mins a game once things get rolling, early on we may not see too much of him . definately makes the pre season games even more interesting . im excited to see how it all works out and to watch how his familiarity with Moz and Blatt pays off.
dont forget Brandon Rush JoeClear
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sounds good to me.
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Late but glad that Boy JR Back! Yeah he fell of in the finals but I'd expect that when he had to be the 2nd option, much easier to defend. But as the 4th-5th option, i'll take him all day.
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Who's the second best team in the East ?
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Kyrie expected to be out until roughly January.... prepare for a lot of Mo & Delly
Kyrie expected to be out until roughly January.... prepare for a lot of Mo & Delly
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I'm cool with it.
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I'd rather he missed November and December than May and June!
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