OFFICIAL NFL Discussion Thread: 2015-16 Season - Congrats to the Denver Broncos and their fans! SB 5

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I don't get these put Hardy under the jail comments.

DV cases happen all the time, how long do you think those dudes are in jail for? Cases where the dudes actually beat the stuffing out of the woman, they get 30-90 days if it's their 1st offense.

I think this groupthink fake outrage got some of y'all in your feels.
And I keep forgetting these cats are 90% talk and 10% nike.
These forums are their "home away from home" for twitter and facebook.
 
Same idiots that have RG3 3rd string, running safety drills with their BS stories. Check the post Monday when we win. They'll be sack hanging i'm sure.
I wish I had your confidence. Last time we played an undefeated Pats team in New England we lost 52-7 :lol:

Kirk Cousins vs. Tom Brady :x

Jay Gruden vs. Bill Belichick :x :x :x
 
Your plan opens itself to difficult scenarios .

Such as what's your definition of violent?

What about If somebody has story like Timid's case and they get charges pressed and are convicted.

Are they too violent to be let out before a drug dealer that knowing sells to minors?

Or what happens when 2 mutual men get in a fight and one of them gets the best of the other man. He is convicted. Would they have to sit in jail before a convicted fraud?
 
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I wish I had your confidence. Last time we played an undefeated Pats team in New England we lost 52-7 :lol:

Kirk Cousins vs. Tom Brady :x

Jay Gruden vs. Bill Belichick :x :x :x

I'm gonna need my bros for support Sunday. Buddha, JJ and all. Don't flake on me man. Remember Kirk promised us after the Bucs game. Jackson back and D Hall may play. Kerrigan is a go.

We win the rest of our schedule becomes winnable. We claim the East and go on to meet Oakland in SB 50. Where we exact revenge for the last time we played them there.

All will be right with the world again and Kirk YOU LIKE THAT shirts will be worn by all at the victory parade. You gotta believe.

Edit: Kirk also gets hurt in the NFC title game. Colt starts SB 50 and goes down. RG3 wins it.
 
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Your plan opens itself to difficult scenarios Then what's your definition of violent?



What about If somebody has story like Timid's case and they get charges pressed and are convicted....
This is one of the first definition's of a violent crime of a violent crime I found and I can pretty much agree with this at face value.
 
In the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program, violent crime is composed of four offenses: murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery, and aggravated assault. Violent crimes are defined in the UCR Program as those offenses which involve force or threat of force.
 Situations will always be a little muddy, every scenario opens itself up to being difficult but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to change things to make it better than what it is.

Also I went back and read Timids post, if what he is saying is true if anyone should be charged with DV it should be old girl that went upside his head with a PS3 obviously but his scenario doesn't make anything I have said so far untrue. Also not every single woman is crazy like the woman he described if what he is saying is true and that should be considered as well with this cases. We just can't go with the assumption that she might be crazy and trying to screw the guy over, it should be considered but in now way should it guide someone when trying to figure out what happen because then you'll just be looking for every little thing you can to support what you already think happened.
 
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Same ones enraged about this have no comment about that cop tossing a teenage girl like a rag doll [emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji]

Personally dislike both but it's funny seeing some ignore one but get a hard on when a black man does it

Solid try

Why do you want more people in jail for?

We already have largest prison population in the whole world.

When people are in jail, you end up having taxpayers paying for them and aren't putting anything into society.

You only want to use jail for people who are a threat to society and I don't think that fits this case.


This surprises me
 
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Your plan opens itself to difficult scenarios Then what's your definition of violent?




What about If somebody has story like Timid's case and they get charges pressed and are convicted....

This is one of the first definition's of a violent crime of a violent crime I found and I can pretty much agree with this at face value.

 

In the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program, violent crime is composed of four offenses: murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery, and aggravated assault. Violent crimes are defined in the UCR Program as those offenses which involve force or threat of force.

 Situations will always be a little muddy, every scenario opens itself up to being difficult but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to change things to make it better than what it is.

Also I went back and read Timids post, if what he is saying is true if anyone should be charged with DV it should be old girl that went upside his head with a PS3 obviously but his scenario doesn't make anything I have said so far untrue. Also not every single woman is crazy like the woman he described if what he is saying is true and that should be considered as well with this cases. We just can't go with the assumption that she might be crazy and trying to screw the guy over, it should be considered but in now way should it guide someone when trying to figure out what happen because then you'll just be looking for every little thing you can to support what you already think happened.

Oh I wasn't trying to say anything you said was untrue. I was just having a discussion with different points to think about.

No you cant assume every woman is crazy but you also cant assume every man accused of DV is some violent dude. Alot DV cases aren't clear cut, the cases involve mutual aggressive behavior.

Human nature is play the victim when possible.

In Hardy case, She was on coke, he had been drinking champagne. Theres mutual "bad" witnesses on both sides. 911 calls on both sides. Both of their stories could be true from different point of views.

Me personally I think its somewhere in the middle.
 
Dude stays having sarcastic comments after my posts but when I make a smart comment back its "Whats your deal?...."Youre grumpy"

Its whatever man :lol:
 
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Your plan opens itself to difficult scenarios Then what's your definition of violent?




What about If somebody has story like Timid's case and they get charges pressed and are convicted....

This is one of the first definition's of a violent crime of a violent crime I found and I can pretty much agree with this at face value.

 

In the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program, violent crime is composed of four offenses: murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery, and aggravated assault. Violent crimes are defined in the UCR Program as those offenses which involve force or threat of force.

 Situations will always be a little muddy, every scenario opens itself up to being difficult but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to change things to make it better than what it is.

Also I went back and read Timids post, if what he is saying is true if anyone should be charged with DV it should be old girl that went upside his head with a PS3 obviously but his scenario doesn't make anything I have said so far untrue. Also not every single woman is crazy like the woman he described if what he is saying is true and that should be considered as well with this cases. We just can't go with the assumption that she might be crazy and trying to screw the guy over, it should be considered but in now way should it guide someone when trying to figure out what happen because then you'll just be looking for every little thing you can to support what you already think happened.

Oh I wasn't trying to say anything you said was untrue. I was just having a discussion with different points to think about.

No you cant assume every woman is crazy but you also cant assume every man accused of DV is some violent dude. Alot DV cases aren't clear cut, the cases involve mutual aggressive behavior.

Human nature is play the victim when possible.

In Hardy case, She was on coke, he had been drinking champagne. Theres mutual "bad" witnesses on both sides. 911 calls on both sides. Both of their stories could be true from different point of views.

Me personally I think its somewhere in the middle.


All this.

Not one time did I post I think Hardy is innocent or did no wrong but that facts of case aren't open and shut as people are making it.

Greg Hardy is an idiot so it wouldn't shock me if he did it but even her "witness" who was drunk and high herself said she didn't see her catch the fade.

I lightweight hate the Cowboys but reading the evidence in the case it was shaky as hell.
 
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Dude stays having sarcastic comments after my posts but when I make a smart comment back its "Whats your deal?...."Youre grumpy"

Its whatever man :lol:


Who me? It was one time when I asked for more details and you jumped down my throat. I still want to discuss that further but I don't think it will happen :lol:

You side with players, you always do. It's probably due to your life and experiences. It's expected
 
Oh I wasn't trying to say anything you said was untrue. I was just having a discussion with different points to think about.

No you cant assume every woman is crazy but you also cant assume every man accused of DV is some violent dude. Alot DV cases aren't clear cut, the cases involve mutual aggressive behavior.

Human nature is play the victim when possible.

In Hardy case, She was on coke, he had been drinking champagne. Theres mutual "bad" witnesses on both sides. 911 calls on both sides. Both of their stories could be true from different point of views.

Me personally I think its somewhere in the middle.
I feel what you're saying. I just have a hard time giving the benefit of the doubt to a dude whos shown no signs or even acknowledging something went wrong and seems to be a very hot headed person.

The reason I think the way I do in these situations is because of how often women are treated and viewed in this cases and not taken seriously. Not saying you but its a general sentiment and trend i've noticed a lot of dudes IRL have towards women in this situations thats borderline sexist if not straight up sexist. Again not saying thats what you are doing at least from what i've read from you since I got in on this topic but IRL (and on NT i've noticed within certain threads) it always the same kinda comments i've read and heard people say before that approaches that realm of misogyny and I can't rock with that.
 
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When someone doesn't agree with you say they have been rejected by women.

But we are are idiots?

Dat Irony

please man you do everything you can to justify your thoughts even using your brother's case which can easily be flipped the other way

"lightweight hate the Cowboys" last season you were all but jumping on their bandwagon

the evidence is shaky? I guess she bruised herself up to collect that check but I don't want to be that guy to point out the obvious anger towards the opposite sex on NT
 
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When someone doesn't agree with you say they have been rejected by women.

But we are are idiots?

Dat Irony

please man you do everything you can to justify your thoughts even using your brother's case which can easily be flipped the other way

"lightweight hate the Cowboys" last season you were all but jumping on their bandwagon

the evidence is shaky? I guess she bruised herself up to collect that check but I don't want to be that guy to point out the obvious anger towards the opposite sex on NT

Because I thought the Cowboys would win their division I jumped all on their bandwagon?

I'm a happily married man that has barely raised my voice at my wife.

You seem like you have seen someone in your life become a victim of Domestic Violence and that's affecting how you view this case.

I've said Ray Rice should be in prison from the jump but i guess that doesn't ft your narrative or your feels.

All I've ever said is the facts presented in this particular case were shaky.
 
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Dude stays having sarcastic comments after my posts but when I make a smart comment back its "Whats your deal?...."Youre grumpy"

Its whatever man :lol:


Who me? It was one time when I asked for more details and you jumped down my throat. I still want to discuss that further but I don't think it will happen :lol:

You side with players, you always do. It's probably due to your life and experiences. It's expected

I'm sorry you felt like I jumped down your throat...I didnt mean for it to come off like that

I meant for it to come off as smart alecish, which I thought your comment was because being an avid fan you surely remember Romo and Bradys rib injuries and if you were that interested in their stats you could've looked them up.

Also I dont always defend the players, you don't see me defending Ray Rice or Adrian Peterson. I'm about letting the process play out before making a personal judgment on them.

I think you tend to be opposite, the players are mostly wrong and they use the money to get out of bad situations.
 
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Some folks in this thread have been rejected by a large number of women in their lifetime.

I see that anger.

Quite honestly...this

It's even worse outside of S&T

When someone doesn't agree with you say they have been rejected by women.

But we are are idiots?

Dat Irony

I dont know who his comment was directed towards.

I haven't seen anything that would have led me to believe certain posters have been rejected by women.
 
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