Arian Foster Let It Be Known That He Is A Non-Believer

trasoul82 · Aug 16, 2015

Mister Friendly, what are your thoughts on polytheism? Why do you only believe in one god and that your god has no god?

What made your god, after all of eternity suddenly, or gradually, for that matter, desire to be worshipped?

DCAllAfrican · Aug 16, 2015

Mister Friendly said:
We have a box

The believer says " Its a Soccer ball in the box"

The strong atheist " Says its not a Soccer ball in the box"

The weak atheist "I don't know, whats in the box but I'm pretty sure its not a Soccer ball in the box"

The agnostic says " I don't know what is the box at all"

They all don't know whats in the box

@ Strong and Weak atheist

sea manup · Aug 16, 2015

Mister Friendly said:
We have a box

The believer says " Its a Soccer ball in the box"

The strong atheist " Says its not a Soccer ball in the box"

The weak atheist "I don't know, whats in the box but I'm pretty sure its not a Soccer ball in the box"

The agnostic says " I don't know what is the box at all"

They all don't know whats in the box

"its a soccer ball in the box"

why do you think this?

blastercombo · Aug 16, 2015

So much beating around the bush :lol:

1. Which God are you referring to? The biblical God or just a God in general

2. Whats the argument that either one exists?

mister friendly · Aug 16, 2015

TraSoul82 said:
Mister Friendly, what are your thoughts on polytheism? Why do you only believe in one god and that your god has no god?

What made your god, after all of eternity suddenly, or gradually, for that matter, desire to be worshipped?

I believe in one God

I don't know what made God, my mind cannot grasp that concept. I guess God thought of that in that with"God is beyond mans conception"

I'm doing something right now, I'll be back in a few hours to answer the tougher answers about my faith

triple homicide · Aug 16, 2015

Mister Friendly said:
I believe in one God

I don't know what made God, my mind cannot grasp that concept. I guess God thought of that in that with"God is beyond mans conception"

If you can't grasp the concept of God, would you be able to distinguish God from something thats not real? Also, why would something that is supposedly the creator, be hard to grasp the concept of? Do you have this inability to grasp problem with your mom & dad?

sea manup · Aug 16, 2015

DCAllAmerican said:
Mister Friendly said:

We have a box

The believer says " Its a Soccer ball in the box"

The strong atheist " Says its not a Soccer ball in the box"

The weak atheist "I don't know, whats in the box but I'm pretty sure its not a Soccer ball in the box"

The agnostic says " I don't know what is the box at all"

They all don't know whats in the box

Click to expand...

@ Strong and Weak atheist

he basically admits that he has no idea what he's talking about and just chooses his answer because he likes it best

no different than lakers fans who think we will win it all this year because they like the lakers

triple homicide · Aug 16, 2015

blastercombo · Aug 16, 2015

"God is beyond my comprehension", then proceeds to explain God, his laws, his commandments, how we should live, how he rules, his son, his purpose, his relationship with us, his promise............ "God is beyond my comprehension doe".

frankmatthews · Aug 16, 2015

sea manup said:
if you have a box and you dont know what's inside

atheists admit that they do not know what is inside

They then proceed to argue for hours on end about what is definitely not inside the box.

It's paradoxical almost.

sea manup · Aug 16, 2015

FrankMatthews said:
sea manup said:

if you have a box and you dont know what's inside

atheists admit that they do not know what is inside

Click to expand...

They then proceed to argue for hours on end about what is definitely not inside the box.

It's paradoxical almost.

How we choose to spend our time has nothing to do with the argument at hand

If you don't have anything to say about the argument why are YOU here?

darthska · Aug 16, 2015

Or, they argue about how something that has no proof of even existing can't be in the box.

:lol:

deleted · Aug 16, 2015

Your thought process is far above that of an atheist or a believer.

We get it.

frankmatthews · Aug 16, 2015

sea manup said:
FrankMatthews said:

sea manup said:

if you have a box and you dont know what's inside

atheists admit that they do not know what is inside

Click to expand...

They then proceed to argue for hours on end about what is definitely not inside the box.

It's paradoxical almost.

Click to expand...

How we choose to spend our time has nothing to do with the argument at hand

If you don't have anything to say about the argument why are YOU here?

you choosing to spend so much time on this very narrow debate indicates the topic is of at least some importance to you. So I'm just wondering, do you really care what's actually in the box? Or does the importance lie in being more rational, more logical and ultimately more intelligent than those who would operate based on a simple belief of a concept as opposed to evidence of fact? How you spend your time indicates the latter. If it were the former you may want to expand the scope of your intellectualism.

I actually did try to offer something to the argument a number of pages ago which was completely ignored while everyone is arguing semantics and burden of proof.

This is not a process of elimination situation here. Debunking god does not get you any closer to what's in the box. If you all really cared, the scope of this discussion could be so much wider. Debunking god strokes your ego, that's it.

DarthSka said:
Or, they argue about how something that has no proof of even existing can't be in the box.

I don't want to get into semantics here but not having proof of something does not mean it can't be. If you want to get scientific here we are talking about probabilities. You are spending hours trying to reduce god to the smallest possible probability, which is essentially expanding the probability of that which you don't know. You all are literally getting dumber in here lol. Seriously tho, do we care about the answer or do we mainly just care that God isn't the answer?

blastercombo · Aug 16, 2015

So you pretty much read nothing and tried to pull a mic drop moment with a slick comment, gotcha. Continue...

sea manup · Aug 16, 2015

If they had any evidence of their gods existence they wouldn't need to bring up all this unrelated nonsense

frankmatthews · Aug 17, 2015

BLASTERCOMBO said:
So you pretty much read nothing and tried to pull a mic drop moment with a slick comment, gotcha. Continue...

I've been following loosely, it's always the same debate on nt. I'm not sure I follow what ur point is. Am I wrong? Can you say you care when the extent of your intellectual reach on the matter is a single thing that it IS NOT? Doesn't really take a genius guys.

sea manup said:
If they had any evidence of their gods existence they wouldn't need to bring up all this unrelated nonsense

I'm not Christian, nor do I particularly belive in all that per se. But the thing is, why u so hung up on them? Those that chose to believe? Why not let that narrow, tunnel vision go and expand the scope of all this bickering? The genius of religion is its built on faith above all. You want to fight against that incessantly for some reason. This thread is nothing but unrelated nonsense as far as I'm concerned.

deleted · Aug 17, 2015

Mister Friendly has been going back and forth just as much as anyone else but you only seem to have an issue with the atheist side.

Why is that?

sea manup · Aug 17, 2015

i don't have a single person that I know personally that I can talk to about religion (everyone I hang out with is atheist). I'm genuinely interested to why people are still stuck in this primitive mindset.

I also develop curriculum to teach highschoolers problem solving so it's interesting to see how people can go through life not understanding basic argumentive concepts.

darthska · Aug 17, 2015

[quote name="PLVN"]Mister Friendly has been going back and forth just as much as anyone else but you only seem to have an issue with the atheist side.

Why is that?[/quote]Plainly obvious why:[quote name="FrankMatthews (to an atheist)" ]Why not let that narrow, tunnel vision go?[/quote] [quote name="FrankMatthews (on religion)"]The genius of religion is its built on faith above all.[/quote]

godry · Aug 17, 2015

FrankMatthews said:
I don't want to get into semantics here but not having proof of something does not mean it can't be.

I don't understand how some can't see what's wrong with this, if you truly believe this then how can you stand for anything at all?

frankmatthews · Aug 17, 2015

PLVN said:
Mister Friendly has been going back and forth just as much as anyone else but you only seem to have an issue with the atheist side.

Why is that?

LIONBLOOD said:
I don't see you telling the religious people in here arguing the same thing. Biased much? Why are religious people so hung up on feeding their lies into our laws, education and politics. Answer that.

Well I guess because you guys are supposed to be more open minded. not knowing would presume a desire to know. I would first need to break mister Friendly's faith to even begin the discussion I wanna have. Which would mean I'd be in here just like you guys for pages and pages on end making absolutely no progress. If we're being frank, you all think him and other religious folks are stupid, uneducated. So why are you giving it the time of day? Can't wait for an opportunity to give it the time of day. It's ego, but that's an entirely different discussion.

I don't particularly feel religion has imposed anything on me in terms of education or laws, at least not more so than plenty other things. It's been pretty avoidable in my life. I can't speak to you or your experiences, but I don't feel the need to lash out at the institution as you seem to do. Although I do understand it has been a detriment to many people's lives to varying degrees.

blastercombo · Aug 17, 2015

People need to realize that science isn't a "belief" it's the observation of existence.

Why do people question science yet agree that mathematics are 100% correct? Math is just the basic principal of science.

The next time 2+2 comes up I hope those same people question where 2 came from, or why is + not -, or who created numbers in the first place. Those arguments are just as valid

sea manup · Aug 17, 2015

Schools just jump into biology, chemistry and physics without first making sure kids understand what science is

Crazy that so many people don't understand the basic method of discovery that led to all man made creation

darthska · Aug 17, 2015

[quote name="BLASTERCOMBO"]Why do people question science yet agree that mathematics are 100% correct? Math is just the basic principal of science.

The next time 2+2 comes up I hope those same people question where 2 came from, or why is + not -, or who created numbers in the first place. Those arguments are just as valid[/quote]Prove to me that god can't divide by zero.

You can't disprove it. :smokin

So it's possible.

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