OFFICIAL 2015-2016 College Football Season Thread

[witnesskb24]

Keep in mind he had Devin Smith on the receiving end of a lot of those long passes, he was one of the best in the country at that. Now this year he's struggled like crazy on those same throws.

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When I watch them play the lesser B1G teams and putt along I always ask myself can they win with him making those horrid mistakes when they play good teams like MSU, Michigan, and (if) they make it to the playoff. He's a great QB but too much of a gun slinger IMO, JT is a calculated killer

 

[Bobby Layne]

OSU should start using Bosa more inside.  I understand leaving him outside against 12 and 21 personnel, but against 11 and 10 he should be inside.  Hubbard and Lewis are better players than Schutt and Hale, and it's harder to neutralize a dominate inside rusher (especially at the college level) IMO, than it is to neutralize an outside one. 

 

[gunna get it]

Easier to double DTs than DEs. And interior 3 are much more adept at it as well.

 

[Bobby Layne]

Easier to double DTs than DEs. And interior 3 are much more adept at it as well.

I'm sure you're much more knowledgeable about pass protection schemes than I'am, but if he gets doubled as 3 tech, doesn't that mean the O has to either leave a TE in to block the DE, or hope the RB can pick him up?  If I'm OSU I love either of those match ups. 

If he gets doubled as a 3, he's not really being neutralized because he's allowing the other guys to have much more favorable match ups.  

 

[Bobby Layne]

Also if you truly want to neutralize a dominant 3T, don't you have to commit to leaving 6 or 7 guys in pass protection?

You can shift the pocket and/or chip guys on the outside and get away with only having to commit 5 or 6. 

I'd love for you to correct me if I'm wrong tho. 

 

[gunna get it]

Who's better on the edge than Bosa? If you move him, quite likely you weaken two positions.

Doubles inside are normal blocking schemes for most guard/center trios. leaving a TE in or chipping with a RB is a major adjustment

 

[witnesskb24]

Saw this on another site, didn't even realize where some of these teams started

Auburn: Preseason #6. 4-2
Oregon: Preseason #7. 4-3
USC: Preseason #8. 3-3
Georgia: Preseason #9. 5-2
UCLA: Preseason #14: 4-2
Arizona St: Preseason #15: 4-3
Georgia Tech: Preseason #16: 2-5
Arkansas: Preseason #18: 2-4
Missouri: Preseason #24: 4-3
Tennessee: Preseason #25: 3-3

 

[earldagoat]

 

[Bobby Layne]

Who's better on the edge than Bosa? If you move him, quite likely you weaken two positions.

Doubles inside are normal blocking schemes for most guard/center trios. leaving a TE in or chipping with a RB is a major adjustment

No one, but both Hubbard and Lewis are better than Schutt and Hale.  And Washington has experience playing 1T. 

Right, but if you want to double a 3T, you have to double him with a G and OT right?  Which leaves a DE with 1 on 1 with either a TE or RB. 

 

[gunna get it]

Rarely will u see double down from the Tackle in pass pro. Maybe in 3 step game where ur gonna just cut block the edge rusher to get his hands down.
In run gameMaybe on traps, and powers but that's to minimize penetration for the pulling lineman.

Most schemes will have call for combo blocks. Post and climb.

Most DEs aren't effective at posting a double and/or creating a pile.
I would have to see Bosa mashing double teams inside first before I believe he could just do it.
Guys like JJ watt & Leonard Marshall are rare breeds. There's only a handful of those guys to have ever walked the earth.

 

[gunna get it]

Good discussion btw. *salute*

 

[10508 cardo jr ln]

 

[gunna get it]

Y'all getting Kyle davis and mecole or nah

 

[Bobby Layne]

Rarely will u see double down from the Tackle in pass pro. Maybe in 3 step game where ur gonna just cut block the edge rusher to get his hands down.
In run gameMaybe on traps, and powers but that's to minimize penetration for the pulling lineman.

Most schemes will have call for combo blocks. Post and climb.

Most DEs aren't effective at posting a double and/or creating a pile.
I would have to see Bosa mashing double teams inside first before I believe he could just do it.
Guys like JJ watt & Leonard Marshall are rare breeds. There's only a handful of those guys to have ever walked the earth.

How would game-plan pass protection wise against a dominate 3T then?  By sliding the protection?

Do you still think it would be bad idea if it was only for obvious passing situations?  I don't think there is a G or C in this conference that would be able to handle him 1 on 1.  Speaking as a Michigan fan, I would be much more worried about handling him inside with Lewis and Hubbard on the outside in passing situations.

Good discussion btw. *salute*

Thanks 

 

[gunna get it]

Yep. Slide and reaches.

I think in obvious passing downs, dime package would be an excellent time to get A speed guy outside and kick Bosa inside.

I've been begging for that from Tennessee with Derek Barnett. But once maggitt got hurt that ended that.

In pass pro it's just a lot easier to block two interior guys with 3 men than it is to leave TEs in and/or help with RBs.

That's why it's so to have tackles as sack leaders. Way more traffic .

 

[Bobby Layne]

Maryland's rocking these against PSU

1961 throwbacks 

I wish Maryland would rock these once in a while

Probably the cleanest set of uniforms they have had IMO. 

 

[Bobby Layne]

Yep. Slide and reaches.

I think in obvious passing downs, dime package would be an excellent time to get A speed guy outside and kick Bosa inside.

I've been begging for that from Tennessee with Derek Barnett. But once maggitt got hurt that ended that.

In pass pro it's just a lot easier to block two interior guys with 3 men than it is to leave TEs in and/or help with RBs.

That's why it's so to have tackles as sack leaders. Way more traffic .

Kind of going OT here, but as long as they have enough size to be effective, I think it's really beneficial for the next level for edge guys to spend some time inside during college.  It forces you to use your hands to win.  Aldon Smith, Ansah, and Melvin Ingram are really good examples of this. 

Despite his limited FB background and advanced age, I wasn't really worried about the Lions selecting Ansah as high as they did because he already knew how to use his hands from playing inside at BYU, which is the hard part for a lot of outside guys. 

 

[Bobby Layne]

 
Indications are that there is a change coming at quarterback this week.

Will keep you guys posted if I hear more, but I wanted to share what I was hearing with you guys.

A post on BN from one of their mods. 

 

[nako xl]

4 Star Javaris Steward committed to SC then his guardian forced him to pump the brakes and announce it's a soft commit and he's waiting to see what's happening with the coach search

 

[gunna get it]

Yep. Slide and reaches.


I think in obvious passing downs, dime package would be an excellent time to get A speed guy outside and kick Bosa inside.


I've been begging for that from Tennessee with Derek Barnett. But once maggitt got hurt that ended that.


In pass pro it's just a lot easier to block two interior guys with 3 men than it is to leave TEs in and/or help with RBs.


That's why it's so to have tackles as sack leaders. Way more traffic .

Kind of going OT here, but as long as they have enough size to be effective, I think it's really beneficial for the next level for edge guys to spend some time inside during college.  It forces you to use your hands to win.  Aldon Smith, Ansah, and Melvin Ingram are really good examples of this. 

Despite his limited FB background and advanced age, I wasn't really worried about the Lions selecting Ansah as high as they did because he already knew how to use his hands from playing inside at BYU, which is the hard part for a lot of outside guys. 

Some of those guys just work their hands well regardless of position. You should see Chuck Smith's pass rush camp.
Not sure if there are YouTube vids ....

 

[herbshuttles15]

Speaking of Dline Chad, Quan & Trent finally making plays.

The yards per play against this defense is down right awful, good thing that Clemson game is at 12 so I won't have to wait until 7pm to be disappointed.

 

[ThaxbyChamblis]

They should eat vs Clemson

 

[mehoneydee]

You mean Clemson will eat them.

 

[ThaxbyChamblis]

Naw, they should eat vs Clemson

 

[mehoneydee]

, I know what you meant. I was just disagreeing