The NBA Draft Thread

[addict4sneakers]

at JR being one of the best ISO scorers in the league.

That stuff was getting locked up against GSW in the first series.

 

[tomdiginson]

"Monta Ellis floor" y'all be having some high floors for everybody ...the draft never works like that

This. Some of the schift I'm reading in here is ridiculous and I'm wondering if dudes really don't see the foolishness that they are saying.

Come on bro, JR smith definitely has a better handle than Monk. He's probably one of the best ISO scorers in the league. That's pretty much undebatable. JR is actually a very talented player, he's just dumb as rocks.

A high IQ JR smith would probably be considered the GOAT

I don't know about Goat, but he would be a damn Good player possibly leading a franchise. The talent is obviously there, but the lack of iq really hinders him.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Can Josh Jackson play the 2 in the league? Lakers need to get on that or Issac if they get the #3 pick. Should be their targets if they keep their pick

If they luck into the chance to take Fultz, it's going to be real interesting 

 

[wavycrocket]

I see it

What happened to the Herezonja avi?

 

[frshstunna]

Only a couple ppl in this thread know what a draft floor really is it seems like

Y'all basically like this with every prospect "wilt ceiling , deandre Jordan floor "

 

[cash money 1999]

we clown jr smith so much y'all forgot he can play basketball.

 

[essential1]

Can Josh Jackson play the 2 in the league? Lakers need to get on that or Issac if they get the #3 pick. Should be their targets if they keep their pick

If they luck into the chance to take Fultz, it's going to be real interesting 

Not really. You keep Fultz & Russell.

Allows you to have a guy that can run an offense for 48 minutes. And can trade off on each other when they play together.

But Fultz does allow you to trade Clarkson and package up a bunch of salaries.

 

[awwsome]

^^^

Great post, happy to see you in here g.


I think any team that's #1 has to take Fultz no matter what.

 

[essential1]

^^^

Great post, happy to see you in here g.


I think any team that's #1 has to take Fultz no matter what.

My one thing has always been when they say trade Russell if they take Fultz...

And my response is always.... for what? And why?

The possibilities of those 2 on offense for an entire game, gives you so much leeway that anything you end up trading Russell for will not get you the positive that you think it does.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

I never said don't take Fultz, I meant it'd be interesting to see how he'd fit with LA

Sure, Russell can play the 2 from time to time, long term will that be viable? 

I agree and say don't trade Russell either because you might just be moving laterally at best

This is again why I say it'd be interesting

 

[awwsome]

My one thing has always been when they say trade Russell if they take Fultz...

And my response is always.... for what? And why?

The possibilities of those 2 on offense for an entire game, gives you so much leeway that anything you end up trading Russell for will not get you the positive that you think it does.

That thinking just comes from the fact that Fultz is a better prospect than D'Lo was and D'Lo's the type of young player you could trade in a package for a superstar.

Then you add that they play the same position.

But I agree, keep em both and package Clarkson for something else.

What's great is that they both have ideal length for either guard position and can both score on and off the ball.

I'd love to see them play together coached by Walton.

 

[essential1]

I never said don't take Fultz, I meant it'd be interesting to see how he'd fit with LA

Sure, Russell can play the 2 from time to time, long term will that be viable? 

I agree and say don't trade Russell either because you might just be moving laterally at best

This is again why I say it'd be interesting

Well I mean Luke doesn't play his guys a ton of minutes like say a Thibs, so saying that they both play 30 could work long term.

So I think it's totally viable.

And it allows you to look for specific types of players at the 2, as opposed to saying.... We'll take anybody.

 

[B Sox]

There would be absolutely nothing wrong with a Fultz/DLo backcourt. I think Ball would be a good fit with DLo as well.

 

[Moheezy]

Smith is too nice man. I like how under control he is on most of his possessions.

I can see him being a nice building block for Dallas.

 

[Moheezy]

My one thing has always been when they say trade Russell if they take Fultz...

And my response is always.... for what? And why?

The possibilities of those 2 on offense for an entire game, gives you so much leeway that anything you end up trading Russell for will not get you the positive that you think it does.

That thinking just comes from the fact that Fultz is a better prospect than D'Lo was and D'Lo's the type of young player you could trade in a package for a superstar.

Then you add that they play the same position.

But I agree, keep em both and package Clarkson for something else.

What's great is that they both have ideal length for either guard position and can both score on and off the ball.

I'd love to see them play together coached by Walton.

The question mark will be in the defensive end. But on the offense, I can see them complimenting each other very nicely along with Ingram.

But teams will eat on a Fultz. R'lo, Ingram, Randle lineup.

Either way, it's worth an experiment for a year.

 

[Moheezy]

With Lavine's injury and Rubio publicly on the trading block. The Wolves are bound to tank it up (unless they somehow get a star in return by the deadline), if they land a top 3 pick and keep it, I say they go for Ball. He gives what Rubio gives on the offensive side plus he stretches the floor and is a scoring threat.

 

[awwsome]

With Lavine's injury and Rubio publicly on the trading block. The Wolves are bound to tank it up (unless they somehow get a star in return by the deadline), if they land a top 3 pick and keep it, I say they go for Ball. He gives what Rubio gives on the offensive side plus he stretches the floor and is a scoring threat.

I don't see Ball as that significant of an upgrade over Dunn who they just drafted to be Rubio's successor.

Dunn is superior defensively, athletically.

Ball is superior player if we comparing them at the same age and is a better shooter but I'd rather take my chances with Dunn and draft Issacs or Markannen if I'm the Wolves.

They need a stretch 4 who's not a stiff on defense.

That would open up the whole floor for them, they already showed flashes of being great on offense and if you're going to have Dunn who's not a shooter, you need as much spacing as possible.

Pretty sure Thibs wants a defensive leader at PG don't see them taking Ball under any circumstances.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Isaac to minny please

 

[awwsome]

Isaac to minny please

Dunn
LaVine
Wiggins
Isaac
KAT

At least 6'8 wingspan at every position, elite athlete at every position.

 

[Moheezy]

Interesting...Has there been any progression from Dunn? I haven't heard oh him since the new year.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Nah dog

Kid dropped 47 god damn points on UNC...he is not McLemore at all.

I can definitely see the Lou Will comparison

JR Smith ability to pass?? JR averages 2.2 assists per game for his career and sports a 1.2 APG average this year and has had 6 seasons of below 2 APG

JR Smith handle?? He's a catch and shoot from anywhere on the court player, JR has never had much of a handle at all.

Ben Mclemore and Malik Monk have very very similar college stats.

also similar physical profiles: extremely athletic Undersized gunning, 2 guards, with limited handle and questionable decision making.


Monk is younger so that augers well for his future but they have very similar profiles.

Monk is better at getting his shot off, and Mclmore was a better defender in college but the point remains.



As it relates to JR when he was in New York he was the secondary ball handler, and created a lot for himself off the dribble, and is a solid passer out of the pick and roll. Malik Monk is most ly a catch and shoot 1 dribble pull up guy, and hasn't really shown muh feel out of the pick and roll.


JR Smith has been a really REALLY successful basketball player, if that's really Monks floor then he should just go #1.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

I don't see Ball as that significant of an upgrade over Dunn who they just drafted to be Rubio's successor.

Dunn is superior defensively, athletically.

Ball is superior player if we comparing them at the same age and is a better shooter but I'd rather take my chances with Dunn and draft Issacs or Markannen if I'm the Wolves.

They need a stretch 4 who's not a stiff on defense.

That would open up the whole floor for them, they already showed flashes of being great on offense and if you're going to have Dunn who's not a shooter, you need as much spacing as possible.

Pretty sure Thibs wants a defensive leader at PG don't see them taking Ball under any circumstances.

Dunn is 45 years old and has been mostly terrible, I don't know who they should take but Kris Dunn isn't stopping me from taking BPA.

 

[awwsome]

Dunn is 45 years old and has been mostly terrible, I don't know who they should take but Kris Dunn isn't stopping me from taking BPA.

Thibs doesn't agree, I'm not saying what's right or wrong but he believes in Dunn.

 

[Moheezy]

And that's all that matters for now. That being said, PF is also a position of concern to Isaac makes some sense even though he mostly plays at the perimeter and is more of a system player that plays within the offense and needs to be setup. A system that Minny does not have and if Rubio is indeed gone, no one to set him up.

 

[ballinsam23]

Man I thought Ben Mclemore would be so much better. Him and MKG are 2 guys that disappointed the crap outta me