Harris County Deputy Darren Goforth Murdered

The ignorance and entitlement in this thread is hilarious and sad at the same time, although I would like to think some of it is sarcasm. I'm hardened to it now though because I see and hear it everyday at work. I don't even think twice about it when I hear it. It comes from the poorest of the poor in the hood to the richest of the rich in mansions - there is no discrimination. It's really the parent's faults for lack of educating their children on the importance of public safety and servants (as most of my co-workers have agreed), but no one wants to blame them nowadays. In the same way it's always the teachers fault in schools, never the parents. How about some of these parents and guardians own up to the fact that they are absent by choice and/or are terrible at being a parent and their kid is a hell-raising bad *** because of it? That's a whole other thread though...

Especially discouraging to see the verbal threats towards us firefighters this week in Houston. I hope it's nothing more than verbal (I hardly doubt it becomes more than that due to the people doing it are more than likely not really about that life) but if it turns ugly it will not surprise me. These folks are ignorant to us trying to help them; they just equate us to police officers because we work side by side sometimes. Have you ever met a firefighter that carries a weapon and that can arrest you? Nah, they don't exist. At least we work as a team 100% of the time and are never solo, so we have strength in numbers. Our union and chief has to send us emails today telling us to watch our backs even more now.

The salty talk towards "heroes" baffles me too. Why yall so bent out of shape? We don't call each other that - the public who appreciates us does. I can't help but wonder how many of the salty population could put on the uniform and be a soldier, cop or firefighter. Face it; it's not for everyone because it's not natural to be in danger. I knew what I was getting into and I don't look for recognition. I knew I would miss holidays, put extra stress on my mental and physical health, miss out on social events, get paid next to nothing, etc. I'm not looking for handouts and thank yous. I like helping people and I'm not all about myself, simple as that (novel idea nowadays). There are bad apples in EVERY profession that do it for the wrong reasons, one of them being "glory". You ask me or any of my brother firefighters and we never call each other heroes. I have never heard police or military personnel call each other that besides at funerals. Hell I've seen veterans promptly correct citizens on Memorial Day and tell them not to thank them and that Memorial Day is for those who have passed and paid the sacrifice. Veteran's Day is for the living who are still with us.

Posts like this make me wonder why I ever venture out of the sneaker forums on this board LOL
 
HOOPSboy said:
The ignorance and entitlement in this thread is hilarious and sad at the same time, although I would like to think some of it is sarcasm. I'm hardened to it now though because I see and hear it everyday at work. I don't even think twice about it when I hear it. It comes from the poorest of the poor in the hood to the richest of the rich in mansions - there is no discrimination. It's really the parent's faults for lack of educating their children on the importance of public safety and servants (as most of my co-workers have agreed), but no one wants to blame them nowadays. In the same way it's always the teachers fault in schools, never the parents. How about some of these parents and guardians own up to the fact that they are absent by choice and/or are terrible at being a parent and their kid is a hell-raising bad *** because of it? That's a whole other thread though...

Especially discouraging to see the verbal threats towards us firefighters this week in Houston. I hope it's nothing more than verbal (I hardly doubt it becomes more than that due to the people doing it are more than likely not really about that life) but if it turns ugly it will not surprise me. These folks are ignorant to us trying to help them; they just equate us to police officers because we work side by side sometimes. Have you ever met a firefighter that carries a weapon and that can arrest you? Nah, they don't exist. At least we work as a team 100% of the time and are never solo, so we have strength in numbers. Our union and chief has to send us emails today telling us to watch our backs even more now.

The salty talk towards "heroes" baffles me too. Why yall so bent out of shape? We don't call each other that - the public who appreciates us does. I can't help but wonder how many of the salty population could put on the uniform and be a soldier, cop or firefighter. Face it; it's not for everyone because it's not natural to be in danger. I knew what I was getting into and I don't look for recognition. I knew I would miss holidays, put extra stress on my mental and physical health, miss out on social events, get paid next to nothing, etc. I'm not looking for handouts and thank yous. I like helping people and I'm not all about myself, simple as that (novel idea nowadays). There are bad apples in EVERY profession that do it for the wrong reasons, one of them being "glory". You ask me or any of my brother firefighters and we never call each other heroes. I have never heard police or military personnel call each other that besides at funerals. Hell I've seen veterans promptly correct citizens on Memorial Day and tell them not to thank them and that Memorial Day is for those who have passed and paid the sacrifice. Veteran's Day is for the living who are still with us.

Posts like this make me wonder why I ever venture out of the sneaker forums on this board LOL
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I will give an ems worker and firefighter more thanks than a police officer. 9/11 pumped up police support to god like levels.... all though ems firefighter worked in conjuction....plus i never met a cocky ems or firefighter....


Cops need to learn more social workish type of ways in dealing with mild criminals. Treating everything like a a terroist threat is crazy. Aint that much danger all the time. Cope should be leaders not managers
Lead through
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Who's hiring these cops these days? There needs to be higher standards because it seems like any joe blow can sign up these days
 
HOUSTON, Texas – Seventy-three people have lost their lives at the hands of another person in Houston, Texas during the first quarter of 2015. This represents an increase in Houston homicides of 59 percent compared to the same timeframe in 2014 according to information from the Houston Police Department (HPD).

yet somehow this deputys life is more important than any of the other people murdered in the area. 

some of yall are swallowing these cops balls just because theyre cops and for that reason alone. putting their life on the line? police officer isnt even in the top 10 most dangerous jobs in america. 
 
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You can't compare a cop killing to any other type of homicide :lol:

All lives are equal, but a cop getting murdered is not the same as a drug deal gone bad (yes there are other ways homicides happen).

Cops are there to uphold the law and protect the people.
 
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Jewbacca2 said:
You can't compare a cop killing to any other type of homicide
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so basically a cops life holds more value than an "average citizen"? thats what you just said. 
 
doublemesh96 said:
so basically a cops life holds more value than an "average citizen"? thats what you just said. 
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Their lives individually do not hold more value. However, their job status and role they play in our society is very different.
 
Not to lowball what this cop may have done, but how exactly was there so much pageantry and publicity for this cops death, when I know there have been other cops both here and other areas killed in the same way? It's just kinda odd that this is getting so much fanfare like this.
 
Jewbacca2 said:
You can't compare a cop killing to any other type of homicide
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All lives are equal, but a cop getting murdered is not the same as a drug deal gone bad (yes there are other ways homicides happen).

Cops are there to uphold the law and protect the people.
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so when it comes to protecting yourself and your family you take no responsibility for that? as a man your ok with being dependant on the police to be responsible for what is ultimately your obligation as a man? interesting.
 
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Peep Game said:
Not to lowball what this cop may have done, but how exactly was there so much pageantry and publicity for this cops death, when I know there have been other cops both here and other areas killed in the same way? It's just kinda odd that this is getting so much fanfare like this.
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It's always a big deal when an officer gets killed among those in the profession. Same goes for other first responders.

I think this one is different because he was just a victim of random violence. The cops realize that could happen to any of them, and the chance of being murdered like that while doing their job is very scary.
 
Jewbacca2 said:
It's always a big deal when an officer gets killed among those in the profession. Same goes for other first responders.

I think this one is different because he was just a victim of random violence. The cops realize that could happen to any of them, and the chance of being murdered like that while doing their job is very scary.
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actually its highly unlikely when you look at the statistics. theyre a huge well organized well protected gang. whats very scary is the fact that you can be pulled over detained, harassed, humiliated, punked and murdered over the color of your skin or for no reason at all.  basically treated like an animal and and u cant do **** about it and nobody can do **** for u. but you wouldnt know that feeling. to have your friends and family live under that fear constantly for a few centuries. 

these people are the ones who are ACTUALLY putting their lives on the line everyday for the rest of us. 

http://www.bankrate.com/finance/personal-finance/10-most-dangerous-jobs-us-1.aspx
 
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Peep Game said:
Not to lowball what this cop may have done, but how exactly was there so much pageantry and publicity for this cops death, when I know there have been other cops both here and other areas killed in the same way? It's just kinda odd that this is getting so much fanfare like this.
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You know a lot of cops that get shot 14 times while pumping gas? I don't know for sure, but I can imagine his back was turned to the shooter, it sounds like he snuck up behind him. He had no fighting chance and the shooter evidently just looked for the first law enforcement person he could find to kill.
 
doublemesh96 said:
actually its highly unlikely when you look at the statistics. theyre a huge well organized well protected gang. 

these people are the ones who are ACTUALLY putting their lives on the line everyday for the rest of us. 
http://www.bankrate.com/finance/personal-finance/10-most-dangerous-jobs-us-1.aspx
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Cops uphold the law. Without cops, or their presence alone, we would not be as free as we are.

It blows my mind how some people do not respect that fact. It's very ignorant to how our society functions versus those in other countries.
 
doublemesh96 said:
actually its highly unlikely when you look at the statistics. theyre a huge well organized well protected gang. 

these people are the ones who are ACTUALLY putting their lives on the line everyday for the rest of us. 
http://www.bankrate.com/finance/personal-finance/10-most-dangerous-jobs-us-1.aspx
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You are missing the point. Public safety employees put their lives on the line to PROTECT the public and usually die at the hands of an evil person (at least for police officers), not by accident. Firefighters die from arson fires and vehicle crashes due to drunk drivers, police officers get killed in a variety of ways by people. Those jobs you posted are dangerous due to the nature of the work.

I don't know how cops do it really. It's cool and popular to dislike them nowadays, so they get little to no respect from EVERYONE (all genders, races backgrounds). Killing one of them isn't a big deal anymore it seems. Going to prison for life or being executed on death row isn't a big deal for a killer who has nothing to live for I guess. I haven't even touched on corrections officers and the stuff and people they deal with.
 
Jewbacca2 said:
Cops uphold the law. Without cops, or their presence alone, we would not be as free as we are.

It blows my mind how some people do not respect that fact. It's very ignorant to how our society functions versus those in other countries.
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jesus christ!!! you just said our freedom is dependent on police precence???? im sorry my man but its the exact opposite. youre misinformed whether u realize it or not.
 
i have no hate for firefighters and ems ppl.

you misinformed about how many people are willing to risk they lives. you know damn well how hard it is to become a firefighter. yall get compensated well. 

cops and the military are fairly simple to get into.

 its easy to become part of that profession. miss me with that apologist talk. cops lives are no more important then anyone elses . dont care what the gov and cop apologist say about that. they signed up for it, know the details to the job and get compensated. don't cry about the dangers of a job. its part of they job period. i dont care for cops or cop apologist. 
 
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Jewbacca2 said:
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Elaborate please.
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theres some info here to help you get a better understanding of what i mean. as a black man and im assuming im way older than you i cant break down years of personal experience and study in this area in one post but i can point you in the direction of some info to help you better understand where im coming from



http://niketalk.com/t/617343/the-freedom-thread
 
Homicide is homicide
Blacklives matter its does not mean any other lives matter


Cop dont go to special cop heaven when they die.


Yes cops jobs are dangerous but not to the point of thanking one evrytine you see them. This create an atmosphere of untouchable nature.
 
TimidTebow said:
**** the Police!!! The Revolution will be televised. If it takes a few pigs catching slugs for them to think twice about putting bullets in citizens so be it. Eye for an eye. May the cop who died go to popo heaven with the rest of his fallen colleagues.
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what we need to realize is that above anything else the revolution needs to be a non violent, strategic and organized resistance. the police have a monopoly on violence and we cant beat them at their own game. theres power in numbers and thats where we have the upper hand. we need all people to stand up and resist not just blacks and minorities even though we feel the brunt of police brutality this is about human freedom and we need everyone to understand that. i dont just run around saying **** the police because i think its cool, their entire existence is corrupt and immoral and its being portrayed as something heroic or commendable. police are the scum of the earth. too many people think theyre a "good person" because they support law enforcement. you may have good intent but you need to let go of the fear of taking responsibility for yourself and stop externalizing your power. 
 
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