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LiCeNseD To BaLL said:

Never said it would be erased.

But it wont be discussed on a nightly basis if the Lakers find ways to win more games next season, or just improve in general (which wont be hard to do).

5 years from now he'll be called a rat, just like 5 years later Kobe was still called a cheater and a you know what.

But... people have been forgivin for a lot worse publicly.
This might not be forgotten but itll be forgiven eventually, at least on the basketball court.

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Mamba MVP said:

LiCeNseD To BaLL said:

Never said it would be erased.

But it wont be discussed on a nightly basis if the Lakers find ways to win more games next season, or just improve in general (which wont be hard to do).

5 years from now he'll be called a rat, just like 5 years later Kobe was still called a cheater and a you know what.

But... people have been forgivin for a lot worse publicly.
This might not be forgotten but itll be forgiven eventually, at least on the basketball court.

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How exactly are they going to be able to win games if nobody wants to play with him? It's not going to be a news story every night, but his stigma other players isn't just gping to go away because he said I'm sorry.

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worldbeefreeg said:

1. Most of his teammates will be drafted, they won't have an option of whether they want to play with him or not.

2. No one is going to pass up playing in Los Angeles because of him. Especially if he's an all-star. Kobe is one of the worst teamattes ever, if your good enough, none of it matters.

3. Only the hood cats are really making such a huge issue over this. Stephen Jackson/Marcus Morris types, well, oh well. Those guys aren't usually great teammates most of the time anyway.

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Mamba MVP said:

To say it will have nothing to do with him is being naive, will it be the top reason, for some maybe others not at all. There's quite a few reasons the Lakers aren't a desirable destination, this is just another unfortunate contributing factor.

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junglejim said:

Jesus, people are still talking about this.  Once the playoffs hit, no one is going to be talking about this.  Its not like people didn't sign with the lakers the last couple years because Kobe snitched on Shaq.......

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[h1]Report: Kobe said Shaq paid women hush money[/h1]
Sep 30, 2004

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NEW YORK -- Separating Kobe Bryant  and Shaquille O'Neal  on
different teams on different coasts has done nothing to lessen the
animosity between the one-time Los Angeles Lakers  teammates. If
anything, the feud is escalating.

On Wednesday, O'Neal dismissed as "ridiculous" Bryant's
allegations that O'Neal had paid up to $1 million in hush money to
various women and then took his own shot by saying, "I'm not the
one buying love."

O'Neal made the remark to ESPN's Stephen A. Smith after the Los Angeles Times quoted a police
report as saying Bryant told detectives in Eagle, Colo., "he
should have done what Shaq does ... that Shaq would pay his women
not to say anything" and already had paid up to $1 million "for
situations like this."

The comment was written down by Det. Doug Winters but not recorded on tape.

"He stated he, Bryant, treats a woman with respect, therefore they shouldn't say anything," Winters wrote.

O'Neal's agent, Perry Rogers, told the paper on Tuesday that the allegation, which was fought successfully to have inadmissible at trial, was untrue and "undeserving of a response."

"This whole situation is ridiculous," O'Neal told ESPN. "I
never hang out with Kobe, I never hung around him. In the seven or
eight years we were together, we were never together. So how this
guy can think he knows anything about me or my business is funny.
And one last thing -- I'm not the one buying love. He's the one
buying love."

Bryant's statement came near the end of a lengthy interrogation about a hotel employee's complaint that Bryant had raped her.

The incident report, a portion of which was reviewed by the Los Angeles Times, is part of the sealed file in the criminal case that was brought against Bryant last year and dropped earlier this month. A Colorado judge Wednesday cleared the way for the release of those sealed documents.

The Times said it was unclear precisely what Bryant meant by his
remarks.

Prosecutors dropped the felony sexual assault charge against
Bryant earlier this month at the accuser's request, but the woman
has filed a federal civil suit against him in Denver, seeking
unspecified damages for pain and suffering since the case began.

O'Neal was informed of Bryant's allegation last September, and
the relationship between the two was cool throughout the 2003-04
season. O'Neal was subsequently traded to the Miami Heat.

There have been no published reports of O'Neal ever being
accused of any sex crimes. He was charged with misdemeanor battery
in Orange County, Fla., in 1998 after a 23-year-old Walt Disney
World employee claimed he grabbed her neck, but the case was
dismissed in 2000.

It is unclear precisely what Bryant meant by the remarks attributed to him. There have been no published reports of O'Neal ever being accused of any sex crime.

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LiCeNseD To BaLL said:

I agree with you.

But players like Whiteside and Derozan, realistically, are the ones we have a chance at...if any.
And guys like them aren't going to be deciding if they want to be a Laker because of D'Angelo's snapchat habits.

KD cares, he wants a legacy, every detail matters. Players like him will care.

Whiteside though? Cmon man, hes just as goofy. I wouldnt be surprised if hes had his share of shinanigans messing around with Khaled down there.
Nothing comparable to this, but im just saying. Hes just as immature. He aint trippin about this

He just wants his cash, 2K rating, and minutes.

This wont affect everyone, but yeah itll affect some of the free agents that matter.
Just dont think itll matter as much as youre saying it will in the long run.

If a marquee free agent is being offered $50 million by the Los Angeles Lakers to be a starting rotation player and get the Hollywood limelight, or a $38 million dollar offer in Milwaukee to come off the bench...

He's going to choose the Lakers.
The snapchap fiasco and D'Angelo wont stop free agents to taking more money from us, or from wanting to play in LA.
Look at what the market has done for D'Angelo already... dude is in gatorade commercials with WORLD SUPER STAR ATHLETES, because hes a Laker.
You think dude would be in those commercials if he was with the Magic?

Cmon man, KD will care. Lots of other free agents might care.
But given the option of Hollywood and Money, over small market/lower money, most free agents who care about their careers/money/fame will come to us if the better offer is there.

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NobleKane said:

thats snitching? exactly how is that snitching? he made a comment and threw shade on shaq to police officers. how in the hell did that come out? did kobe video tape the conversation and put it online?

or did the cops arrest shaq for paying porn stars to bang him?

did he call shaqs wife and tell her shaq been paying thots for years?

so if i tell my boy rob in a private convo that my boy steph is getting it in with a young chick down the block im snitching? because steph is married?

makes no sense

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worldbeefreeg said:

1. Most of his teammates will be drafted, they won't have an option of whether they want to play with him or not.

2. No one is going to pass up playing in Los Angeles because of him. Especially if he's an all-star. Kobe is one of the worst teamattes ever, if your good enough, none of it matters.

3. Only the hood cats are really making such a huge issue over this. Stephen Jackson/Marcus Morris types, well, oh well. Those guys aren't usually great teammates most of the time anyway.

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We'll see. Disagree with all of those points though. There's two summers to prove or disprove this theory.

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LiCeNseD To BaLL said:

The one positive difference here for D'Angelo is that he's a 20 year old whose going to grow into a man because of this whole ordeal.

Nick is a 30 year old man who will never stop being an immature goofball bench warmer.

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MJ 23 said:

Pic of said tweet?

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Lizaker4Lizife said:

Y'all see Hibachi's IG post?

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Essential1 said:

Ehhhh

He keeps tweeting and deleting subtle shots..

That's doing a lot wrong.


If he wants to be mad at D'Angelo.. That's fine, he's well within his right.. I won't argue the morality part of it because that would change this from black and white. Just say if he wants to mad at Russell, that's fine.

But he keeps going to social media. He keeps tweeting stuff.. Then he keeps deleting things. Acting like nobody is going to see it.

I mean come on man, social media has ruined your friendship, perhaps your engagement, and will get you booted off your childhood team. Why the hell are you still going back to social media to air things out?

Does Nick have no common sense?


Two things I've heard today....
1. First Take referring to Russell & Nick as kids.. Both are adults, but you can make a case that 20 years old is still a kid. He wouldn't have been halfway through college.. Nonetheless, he should know better.. But people make mistakes., especially at that age. Dumb mistakes

Nick is 30 years old. Been in the league for years. How stupid do you have to be to keep going back to social media.


2. Stugotz made a great point on the Dan LeBatard show... And that's rare. He was piggybacking of LeBatard saying everything that happened in this entire story is immaturity.. But how ironic is it that in the aftermath, the most mature guy is the one who screwed up and faced it.

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