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post #23401 of 93193
Will they retire the 8 and the 24??? Did Chicago retire the fo five?
post #23402 of 93193
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I know. But it goes to show that the Spurs too brought talent to help their star

 

No it really doesn't man.

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post #23403 of 93193
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Someone in the know help me out here....

Was Byron hired to appease Kobe (also did Kobe have input) as his career winded down? Is it a case of doing what Kobe wants, because he's meant so much to the franchise, player development *cough* D'Angelo Russell *cough* be damned?

Meaning...after this farce of a Lakers season is over, will they blow the whole thing up and get an entirely new coaching staff on board?
Absolutely was brought in to appease Kobe and the fanbase.
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Dwight I can agree, with, Pau not at all.

You don't think they got Pau for Kobe? Dude was on the way to the next team if something drastic wasn't done. The Lakers being able to unload some beef jerky for another's team's franchise player i'm sure was done to keep Kobe happy.
I meant in regards to "scarring them away."
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Dwight I can agree, with, Pau not at all.

It was clear as day that Pau had grown tired of playing with Kobe. Even though Kobe considers him one of his favorite teammates, Pau was noticeably not bought in, and tired of playing in LA. Part of that was Kobe. Remember all the **** he used to get? Lakers fans and media foolishly thinking he was washed. Nah, he just didn't wanna play there.

He bolts with the quickness in Free Agency to Chicago and puts up 18 & 12 the next year in Chicago.
They had their bouts the last year or two, but Pau was more tired of being disrespected by management by constantly being in trade rumors. I think they couldn't even offer Pau that much money by the time they acquired Lin and re-signed Hill/Swaggy in 2014 (I know, I know. laugh.gif).

The Bulls absolutely cater to Pau on offense. I mean, that's fine but I'm glad the Lakers didn't in 2012 through 2014.
post #23404 of 93193
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I was legit scared of that Pacers team their last year
Silly me still thought they were gonna win that Heat series. Even amidst all the turmoil. They were right where they wanted. #1 Seed, ECF vs the Heat. Home court advantage. Game 1 victory.
post #23405 of 93193
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I guess I'm the only one that thinks Kobe subs himself in and out of games as his pleases. I'm not blaming Mike for anything. Especially when in 2015 with no Achilles and soap suds all over him, Kobe is still playing 31 mpg.

 

Not only does was Kobe subbing himself in and out of games until maybe the past two years, he also is still dictating what they run on offense and hijacking possessions left and right.

 

He's no question top 10, but he just might be the most uncoachable superstar to ever play the game.

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post #23406 of 93193
P - there isn't a chance in hell Byron coaches the Lakers past this year, right?
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Dwight I can agree, with, Pau not at all.

It was clear as day that Pau had grown tired of playing with Kobe. Even though Kobe considers him one of his favorite teammates, Pau was noticeably not bought in, and tired of playing in LA. Part of that was Kobe. Remember all the **** he used to get? Lakers fans and media foolishly thinking he was washed. Nah, he just didn't wanna play there.

He bolts with the quickness in Free Agency to Chicago and puts up 18 & 12 the next year in Chicago.

nah, it had nothing to do with kobe, at all. it was management and pau's own mental weakness. Kobe showed dude nothing but love. hella guys said they loved playing with kobe. it was the soft ones that didn't. but Metta and Caron, Lamar, all loved dude. Sasha too. Pau too. Pau needed a change of scenery for his own personal feels. They dont yell in chicago. they won't hit you in the chest if you blow a layup. D.Rose won't get in your face if you're bsing like Kobe will. The really good big men are gone too, so pau doesnt have to worry about getting exposed every night for his toilet paper heart.


Besides...how Pau leave because of Kobe? Kobe balled out in 2013, and only played 6 games in 2014. Pau was on the bulls in 2015. Kobe wasn't even there. Pau was tired of management always dangling him out on the trading block and the constant pressure to perform at a high level.

Lakers tho...

Lakers tho...

post #23408 of 93193
But seriously will he be the first dude to retire 2 numbers? I highly doubt they let some cat come in and dawn the 8
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P - there isn't a chance in hell Byron coaches the Lakers past this year, right?
I don't think so, but who knows. Hopefully they just shuffle him to some scouting role like Rudy T. laugh.gif
post #23410 of 93193
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P - there isn't a chance in hell Byron coaches the Lakers past this year, right?

 

He'll be back if the Lakers can somehow get to 30 wins. Srs

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post #23411 of 93193
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I know. But it goes to show that the Spurs too brought talent to help their star
That's just only this year. Spurs always only brought role players. Duncan had to play with the likes of McDyess, Ratliff, Nesterovic after David Robinson retired.
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post #23412 of 93193
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P - there isn't a chance in hell Byron coaches the Lakers past this year, right?

I sure hope not. With Kobe leaving, I suggest they completely start over. Sell everything that isn't nailed down r named Julius Randle or D.Russ. And start over. Completely. Rebrand. 100.

Lakers tho...

Lakers tho...

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I sure hope not. With Kobe leaving, I suggest they completely start over. Sell everything that isn't nailed down r named Julius Randle or D.Russ. And start over. Completely. Rebrand. 100.
What about Clarkson
post #23414 of 93193

They really should retire #8 and #24 in April against Utah.

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post #23415 of 93193
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That's just only this year. Spurs always only brought role players. Duncan had to play with the likes of McDyess, Ratliff, Nesterovic after David Robinson retired.
They brought in role players because from 2004 on, their big 3 was established
post #23416 of 93193
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He's no question top 10, but he just might be the most uncoachable superstar to ever play the game.

so you admit that AI is not a superstar 8o

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post #23417 of 93193
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He'll be back if the Lakers can somehow get to 30 wins. Srs

30 wins?

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post #23418 of 93193
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What about Clarkson

 

No doubt in my mind if Kobe and Lou weren't on the team he would be putting up 22ppg right now. He's shooting over 43% from the 3 right now and if this proves to not be a fluke, then I think the Lakers got one. He's a flat out star. Like Russell Westbrook but who can actually make 3's. He still has a ways to go to get into the Westbrook class of playmaking, but he's got it man.

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post #23419 of 93193
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so you admit that AI is not a superstar 8o

 

How? All I said was kobe was maybe the most uncoachable superstar to ever play the game. The same could be said about AI. Them being uncoachable has nothing to do with them being superstars or not. Sorry :\

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post #23420 of 93193
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That's just only this year. Spurs always only brought role players. Duncan had to play with the likes of McDyess, Ratliff, Nesterovic after David Robinson retired.
They brought in role players because from 2004 on, their big 3 was established
Reminds of the articles railroading the Lakers for having not signed superstar free agent since Shaq in 1996 the summer before last.

Ho hum.
post #23421 of 93193
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No doubt in my mind if Kobe and Lou weren't on the team he would be putting up 22ppg right now. He's shooting over 43% from the 3 right now and if this proves to not be a fluke, then I think the Lakers got one. He's a flat out star. Like Russell Westbrook but who can actually make 3's. He still has a ways to go to get into the Westbrook class of playmaking, but he's got it man.
I agree, dude is crazy efficient.
I was asking about Clarkson because Freeze hair trade everyone away not named Randle or Russell.
post #23422 of 93193
I agree about Clarkson. He's legit and soon to be grossly underpaid.

He probably cried tears of joy yesterday
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30 wins?

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I mean it's a longshot that they'll get there but they'll probably be better as the season goes along so they'll pick up some wins along the way. I don't think they'll get there but you never know.

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They brought in role players because from 2004 on, their big 3 was established
Still don't see how this discounts Duncan's legacy. He was still the top dog of the "Big 3", even though Ginobili was and is still inconsistent as hell. I don't even think Kobe can win with just Parker and Ginobili. It took him Bynum, Gasol, and LO to win a championship again after losing Shaq.
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I sure hope not. With Kobe leaving, I suggest they completely start over. Sell everything that isn't nailed down r named Julius Randle or D.Russ. And start over. Completely. Rebrand. 100.
What about Clarkson

oh yea, keep Clarkson too. Kid is growing into a great player. and dead EVERYBODY else. Bron, Mitch, Jimmy, Jeanie. I've had enough of all these knuckleheads, time to get back royal.

Lakers tho...

Lakers tho...

post #23426 of 93193
Clarkson will be great once his hairline starts receding
All the greats have non existent hairlines
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post #23427 of 93193
Even still, it's going to be interesting to see how the lakers build around 3 guys who all need the ball in their hands
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Even still, it's going to be interesting to see how the lakers build around 3 guys who all need the ball in their hands
I said this in the Lakers thread last night, but Randle is the key to what happens moving forward.
post #23430 of 93193

Like the capacity for how good Jordan Clarkson can be is...man.

 

He already is very good in the P&R and gets to his spots with ease. Has the size to get his midrange jumper off and it looks like at his peak he'll be almost Chris Paul level good from that range. Then he's showing you the 3 point game at an efficient rate. Has the motor. He's pretty bad on defense but I think he'll get to serviceable, and you can kind of live with the defense When he's giving you 23ppg with 45/40/86 splits.

 

My only concern is his playmaking abilities. I don't know if he'll be proficient in that area.

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