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Originally Posted by Vincent Van Ho View Post

Duncan? He isn't even in the program laugh.gif  

Again, there is no need for roles laugh.gif  they are most likely going to have Curry, Durant etc. They will have shooters and big men. They can afford to have Kobe on the squad without a specific role

I disagree, they wouldn't have won Gold in 2008 if not for Kobe. He then came back in 2012 and won Gold again

They don't need the best team to win, if you've been paying attention to the competition 

I get your point, but I think the preparation approach team usa is now taking is probably the reason why we are in our winning ways again.

I just don‘t see the need to feed into this propaganda. If Kobe was playing on a high note, still wanted to play but decided to retire, then that‘s another topic in itself. But he isn‘t.

Another thing though, you‘re supposed to be developing and passing on the torch and giving guys the experience. Don‘t forget the many guys who flaked, like KD.
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post #25864 of 93193
Can't even compare Kidd and Kobe. Later in his career, Kidd was a spot up shooter who would move the ball constantly, play tough defense and help whatever team he was on gel. He was a real mentor type player on hat squad.

Kobe is on a young team and openly gives no damn about them or their development. He's shown no ability to take a back seat.

Don't let Kobe disgrace the country laugh.gif
post #25865 of 93193
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Originally Posted by itsaboutthattime View Post


Duncan was on the 2004 team.. And is an older guy who can have a valuable role on the team as he can backup both big spots (and do it well).. And he has demonstrated with the Spurs that he can take lesser roles for the good of the team

Plus pop, his coach, is heavily involved with team USA




Putting Kobe on the team would be the exact same thing as if they were to introduce American football into the Olympics..

And then team USA using the logic, we have 3 QB spots so we should add Peyton manning as the 3rd QB because all the stats he has put up in the pass

2004 was before the new regime took over and made it mandatory to enroll in the program to be considered. Plus, Duncan aint wanna play :lol

 

If Duncan wanted to participate, he would have a loooong time ago. He got soured by his experience in 2004 when he lost

 

You are so focused on roles and ignore the fact that the team will win regardless

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Originally Posted by itsaboutthattime View Post

Because everything we have seen this season so far demonstrates that Kobe will be willing to take a backseat role on any team

You dudes are going to play the whole "Kobe is selfish" angle until he dies apparently. Do you serious believe that Kobe Bryant is campaigning to be on the team and take a primary role?

You honestly believe that?
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Originally Posted by itsaboutthattime View Post

He earned whatever he has already received.. If anyone should get the spot it's Duncan, who can still justify a role on any team

Role players have specific roles, what exactly is kobe's?

I think a young up and coming guy should be given the spot.. Like harden on the 2012 team

Tim Duncan isn't even apart of the pool so why bring him up?
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I get your point, but I think the preparation approach team usa is now taking is probably the reason why we are in our winning ways again.

I just don‘t see the need to feed into this propaganda. If Kobe was playing on a high note, still wanted to play but decided to retire, then that‘s another topic in itself. But he isn‘t.

Another thing though, you‘re supposed to be developing and passing on the torch and giving guys the experience. Don‘t forget the many guys who flaked, like KD.

When Kobe, Lebby etc. decided that USA was a priority, all the players followed suit. As the OG, he should have spot reserved IMO. When the new regime took over, it took buy in for the players to make USA a priority. They made it "cool" again to play for Team USA

 

But yeah your other points about propaganda and stuff that's another topic :lol

 

Kobe taking one spot won't hinder the youth development, trust me

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laugh.gif at Kobe getting a roster spot. 2008 isn't walking through that door.
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If this were 2008 and a washed player wanted to get in, I'm not considering it because of the competition. Even if said washed player was as decorated as Kobe and had helped win Gold in the past

 

2016 competition will not be fierce

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That article PMatic posted spells it out perfectly. .
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Originally Posted by Vincent Van Ho View Post

If this were 2008 and a washed player wanted to get in, I'm not considering it because of the competition. Even if said washed player was as decorated as Kobe and had helped win Gold in the past

2016 competition will not be fierce

The thing that kills me is that we all know...tons of people just don't like Kobe and now that he's washed its a lot easier to spew negative rhetoric about him.

I respect someone who just doesn't like him, and thinks he should just fade away. But the ones that sit up here and try to rationalize being against him occupying the human victory cigar role...with nonsense like "player development"...that's what I don't respect. Just come out and say you don't like Kobe. You look retarded trying to pretend like you give a **** about player development.

I can see now if they were to lose (which absolutely won't happen) dudes would be like "see...if
Gordon Hayward was on the team instead of Kobe they wouldn't have lost".

**** outta here
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I guess it depends on who you plan on leaving off the team if you add Kobe. If all of the top guys plan on playing, its going to be difficult seeing Kobe get in.

Paul George (I'm sure he's guaranteed a spot)
Demarcus Cousins
Stephen Curry
Klay Thompson
Anthony Davis
Kevin Durant
James Harden
Andre Drummond
Carmelo Anthony
Chris Paul
Lebron James
Russell Westbrook

That's 12 guys right there. Then, you're still leaving out the possibility of the MVP from the previous summer in Kyrie Irving, plus guys like Jimmy Butler, Kawhi Leonard, Bradley Beal, Draymond Green, etc. Best thing to happen for Kobe is that one or two of the top 12 guys pull out.

Been saying no matter how Paul George played this season he was getting in regardless. After the injury him and the Pacers organization single handedly could have deaded NBA players from going to the Olympics if they would have came out with negativity. But they kept it positive and just off that alone he HAS to be there.

Kobe is in at the very least because it would be Nike (team outfitter) last chance to make money of him on a competitive stage. I don't think alot of people realize that. At this point the only question is, will he come off the bench or be the only player who starts every game?
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It'd be different watching a healthy Kobe being a human victory cigar.

I don't know if he'd sign up for that when the time comes.
  
  
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The thing that kills me is that we all know...tons of people just don't like Kobe and now that he's washed its a lot easier to spew negative rhetoric about him.

I respect someone who just doesn't like him, and thinks he should just fade away. But the ones that sit up here and try to rationalize being against him occupying the human victory cigar role...with nonsense like "player development"...that's what I don't respect. Just come out and say you don't like Kobe. You look retarded trying to pretend like you give a **** about player development.

I can see now if they were to lose (which absolutely won't happen) dudes would be like "see...if
Gordon Hayward was on the team instead of Kobe they wouldn't have lost".

**** outta here

Plus as I've been saying, there's going to be injuries and other circumstances that pop up in June/July that will prevent a few or more names to drop off

 

PMatic's article was really good, it said what we've been saying already 

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It'd be different watching a healthy Kobe being a human victory cigar.

I don't know if he'd sign up for that when the time comes.

Bet you he'd get playing time early and then sit the rest of the game

 

The Brazil experience IMO is enough for the guy to go out there :lol

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I don't mind seeing Bean on the Olympic team. His washedness isn't going to affect the outcome.
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Originally Posted by lynchpin33 View Post

Been saying no matter how Paul George played this season he was getting in regardless. After the injury him and the Pacers organization single handedly could have deaded NBA players from going to the Olympics if they would have came out with negativity. But they kept it positive and just off that alone he HAS to be there.

Kobe is in at the very least because it would be Nike (team outfitter) last chance to make money of him on a competitive stage. I don't think alot of people realize that. At this point the only question is, will he come off the bench or be the only player who starts every game?

I bought up the Nike angle weeks ago and some giy actually questioned "how much money they would actually make with Kobe on the team versus someone like Butler or Hayward." As if those dudes have signature lines that Nike profits from.

I swear I can't make this **** up.
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I guess it depends on who you plan on leaving off the team if you add Kobe. If all of the top guys plan on playing, its going to be difficult seeing Kobe get in.

Paul George (I'm sure he's guaranteed a spot)
Demarcus Cousins
Stephen Curry
Klay Thompson
Anthony Davis
Kevin Durant
James Harden
Andre Drummond
Carmelo Anthony
Chris Paul
Lebron James
Russell Westbrook

That's 12 guys right there. Then, you're still leaving out the possibility of the MVP from the previous summer in Kyrie Irving, plus guys like Jimmy Butler, Kawhi Leonard, Bradley Beal, Draymond Green, etc. Best thing to happen for Kobe is that one or two of the top 12 guys pull out.

Dang, you really think Blake isn't even in contention?
" . . . what a long, strange trip its been . . . " The Grateful Dead, "Truckin'" (and a good summary of my life as an LA Clippers fan)
" . . . what a long, strange trip its been . . . " The Grateful Dead, "Truckin'" (and a good summary of my life as an LA Clippers fan)
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The Kobe hate is laughable. Dudes can't stand him on the team lmao
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Let me fix that for ya...


Paul George
Blake Griffin
Stephen Curry
Klay Thompson
Anthony Davis
Kevin Durant
Kawhi Leonard
Tim Duncan
Jimmy Butler
Kobe Bryant
Lebron James
Russell Westbrook

if timmy says he wants to play for USA, you dont deny him. same with kobe. you extend an invitation to them. i'd give the next forward spot to draymond (no homer)
Edited by DMan14 - 12/4/15 at 10:42am
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Originally Posted by bhzmafia14 View Post

I guess it depends on who you plan on leaving off the team if you add Kobe. If all of the top guys plan on playing, its going to be difficult seeing Kobe get in.

Paul George (I'm sure he's guaranteed a spot)
Demarcus Cousins
Stephen Curry
Klay Thompson
Anthony Davis
Kevin Durant
James Harden
Andre Drummond
Carmelo Anthony
Chris Paul
Lebron James
Russell Westbrook

That's 12 guys right there. Then, you're still leaving out the possibility of the MVP from the previous summer in Kyrie Irving, plus guys like Jimmy Butler, Kawhi Leonard, Bradley Beal, Draymond Green, etc. Best thing to happen for Kobe is that one or two of the top 12 guys pull out.

Dang, you really think Blake isn't even in contention?

Blake had a spot in London before he got hurt in practice iirc

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Originally Posted by DMan14 View Post

Let me fix that for ya...


Paul George
Blake Griffin
Stephen Curry
Klay Thompson
Anthony Davis
Kevin Durant
Kawhi Leonard
Tim Duncan
Jimmy Butler
Kobe Bryant
Lebron James
Russell Westbrook

Tim aint playing :lol 

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Let me fix that for ya...


Paul George
Blake Griffin
Stephen Curry
Klay Thompson
Anthony Davis
Kevin Durant
Kawhi Leonard
Tim Duncan
Jimmy Butler
Kobe Bryant
Lebron James
Russell Westbrook

Tim Duncan is not in the player pool
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Originally Posted by thirdtimearound View Post

The Kobe hate is laughable. Dudes can't stand him on the team lmao

I don't even like Kobe, but I want him on the Olympic team. Observing all his "socializing" in London last time around was pretty amusing. Should be even better in Brazil.
" . . . what a long, strange trip its been . . . " The Grateful Dead, "Truckin'" (and a good summary of my life as an LA Clippers fan)
" . . . what a long, strange trip its been . . . " The Grateful Dead, "Truckin'" (and a good summary of my life as an LA Clippers fan)
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You know Lebron is gonna make sure Love and Kyrie (World Games MVP) are there if healthy. Gonna be alot of dudes with those Dame Lillard feelings and social media posts....
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You know Lebron is gonna make sure Love and Kyrie (World Games MVP) are there if healthy. Gonna be alot of dudes with those Dame Lillard feelings and social media posts....

I don't think Lebby has that power when it comes to this regime but it's not as if those guys would be bad choices anyway

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You know Lebron is gonna make sure Love and Kyrie (World Games MVP) are there if healthy. Gonna be alot of dudes with those Dame Lillard feelings and social media posts....
I don't think Lebby has that power when it comes to this regime but it's not as if those guys would be bad choices anyway

K gonna save a spot for Kyrie

lillard best option to play in the olympics is to apply for chinese citizenship
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Originally Posted by lynchpin33 View Post

You know Lebron is gonna make sure Love and Kyrie (World Games MVP) are there if healthy. Gonna be alot of dudes with those Dame Lillard feelings and social media posts....
I don't think Lebby has that power when it comes to this regime but it's not as if those guys would be bad choices anyway

K gonna save a spot for Kyrie

oh how quickly they forget. my mans is a automatic plug. 

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oh how quickly they forget. my mans is a automatic plug. 

Like I said, they wouldn't be bad choices anyway... 

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