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post #44641 of 93193

It's a free throw, it's literally the same shot every single time. There's no excuse.

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post #44642 of 93193

oh i dont mind the strategy at all, its boring to watch buts its a part of the game.

. i dont feel bad for dudes who cant hit freethrows :lol but to say its laziness is one of the dumbest things ive heard. 

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It's not laziness. I've seen guys practice in college for an hour straight each day and still be crappy FT shooters.
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There's also the problem of pride. No one wants to bank in a free throw because it's embarrassing but they have no problem taking 20 and missing 15 with 3 of them being airballs :rolleyes

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post #44645 of 93193
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were talking about FREE THROWS. it's the part of the gm where you get a shot from like 15ft where nobody is defending you. you work on it in practice, now translate it to gm. giving guys a pass for not being able to make it at a decent rate eyes.gif
were not talking about some guy working on post moves or trying to extend his gm to the three pt line.

rick barry reached out to shaq, but dude declined. said he had too much pride to be asking for help and the thought of shooting underhand was below him. he's reached out to others in the league, but guys just dont make that effort

nailed it. pride is in the way. dudes like drummond, shaq, deandre etc etc... the excuse is that their hands are so big. but kawhi dont have that issue. they claim they practice free throws a lot but i dont buy it. even if "the ball feels like a tennis ball" in their hands as shaq put it, then change the shot. when i try to accurately toss a small ball, i lob it. im not saying they should LOB the shot per se, but they definitely could alter it. if ur putting in maximum effort into practicing free throws ( i dont buy that but for the sake of argument lets say its true) and ur still not hitting, change the form. start practicing underhand. granny shot if u have to. but u are KILLING your team, practically point shaving by missing 20+ free throws in a night.

 

 

to drive it home, if shaq could shoot FTs at an average rate, he would be the highest scoring player ever. thered be no way to defend him for the last like 7 years of his play. but like dman said, shaq declined. aint no way these dudes putting in maximum effort with their natural talents while ur average every day rec hooper with a job and hella responsibilities and barely any free time can put in work and get better. i dont wanna hear it.

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Lol Derrick is the epitome of playing up to his competition

Average point guards don't get him up no more

He will probably light Kyrie up for a quick 8 points and then they'll have to put someone else on him like they did in the playoffs

Lol Agreed. 

 

As long as that Ninja Rose comes out of the shinobi temple for big games, I don't mind. 

Ninja Rose still letting top tier PG know who's boss. 

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It's not laziness. I've seen guys practice in college for an hour straight each day and still be crappy FT shooters.

AN HOUR? bruh if u suck at something u think an hour a day is good enough? u supposed to do an hour a day if you're already good at it. if u suck, u shouldnt even be looking at time frames. u should be looking at shots made and shots made in a row.

 

on that ray allen 500 a day ****. not staring at the clock after 20 misses saying times up.

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Lol yes Ray Allen was a good shooter cuz he practiced alot . see how foolish comparison are brought up. Kawhi, who can shoot 3s and can shoot compared to the likes of dj , drummond or dwight .

Like I said dumbest thing I've heard that it's laziness.
Edited by lakersman3000 - 1/21/16 at 10:00am
post #44649 of 93193
Kirby averaging 8 and 3 on 30% over the last five
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Yall know Ricky Barry was trolling when he came up with the underhanded shot, just turned out to work ok for him, but there's no reason to believe it would work for everything, really reduces margin for error. I'd recommend shooting with one hand. Same form, overhand, palm the ball, guide hand to hold steady, soften your grip and flick of the wrist for the bigs who dont shoot jumpers anyways so they claim they have no form to revert to for an uncontested, nobody moving, 15ft shot.

Hell, you could conceivably dunk or layup from the ft line (can't back up further than the circle) so long as the ball gets to the rim/backboard before your feet hit the ground in the paint, and obviously you jumped entirely behind the line

I'm not pro changing any rules. Guys have to get better. You make 20million dollars a year, figure it out. If not, it's a weakness just like any other, the other team's job is to exploit it. Just like if you're slow, you'll get beat off the dribble, if you're small you'll get posted up, etc. Honestly, if you can shoot 50% over about 4 possessions, teams will probably come out of it, especially if your team is getting stops too.
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yeah im not down with changing rules either. they cant shoot, thats on them . part of the game but to say its from a lack of effort or practice  isnt realistic. Thats all i got to say about that. 

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Hmmm so GSW vs SA Monday....👀
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but guys practicing the wrong way. your current form isn't working. i wouldn't even be mad if guys started trying to bank it in, underhand, jump, shoot with the off hand, etc.
even lebron tried switching it up with his stance this yr, looking like a wide receiver, lol. ray allen even tried helping brawny bron, but he just sticks to what's comfortable, even after allen breaks down his form. guys are just stuck in their ways
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Hmmm so GSW vs SA Monday....👀

8o championship preview. 

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Didn't Lebron say he could shoot 90% from the FT line if he wanted to? laugh.gif
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Didn't Lebron say he could shoot 90% from the FT line if he wanted to? laugh.gif

lebron spouts alot of fiction. 

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The other thing about the hacking strategy is it completely stops fast breaks, semi-transition and forced turn overs. No easy buckets.
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Didn't Lebron say he could shoot 90% from the FT line if he wanted to? laugh.gif
lebron spouts alot of fiction. 
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Didn't Lebron say he could shoot 90% from the FT line if he wanted to? laugh.gif
lebron spouts alot of fiction. 
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lebron spouts alot of fiction. 

He also said he could average a triple-double in a season if he really wanted to. I don't believe it.

Lebron is a Hell of a basketball player, but it's ridiculous for him or people to really believe he can fill a stat sheet like that on a nightly basis in todays game. It's just not happening.

As for the free-throw discussion: If they're putting in the work towards improving their free throws and still not seeing tangible results, then something needs to change. It's either form, the way they hold the ball or even their follow through. The bottom line is, if you're really about improving something you have a deficiency in, you'd look into every avenue available that leads you towards improvement. It just doesn't stop with shooting an X amount of free throws in Y amount of hours.

If I was Dwight Howard or DeAndre Jordan trying everything to fix my free throw percentage and still cant, then I'd consider trying to shoot them underhand or just go for the backboard. But like many others have previously said, it's a pride thing and their pride is more important than their teams success.

Which isn't surprising, because those guys are two losers who haven't amounted to jack **** in their NBA careers.
Edited by Hank Scorpio - 1/21/16 at 10:15am
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I would just adjust the rule to not have it allowed until the 4th. Give the team the option to shoot or inbound in quarters 1-3. I'm not trying to sit through 3 hour games again. I didn't get out of the arena until after 11PM in that Spurs series. There is no reason a 4 quarter game should last that long.
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I would just adjust the rule to not have it allowed until the 4th. Give the team the option to shoot or inbound in quarters 1-3. I'm not trying to sit through 3 hour games again. I didn't get out of the arena until after 11PM in that Spurs series. There is no reason a 4 quarter game should last that long.

disagree. there is only a handful of teams who really suffer from the hack-a strategy. so we're supposed to change the rules for EVERYONE to help out 5-10 impressively poor FT shooters?

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post #44663 of 93193
there wont be any rules changed to help 3-5 teams ... 1-3 bad FT shooters in close games

that's downright stupid

fix your shot or stay off the court in crunch time
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I would just adjust the rule to not have it allowed until the 4th. Give the team the option to shoot or inbound in quarters 1-3. I'm not trying to sit through 3 hour games again. I didn't get out of the arena until after 11PM in that Spurs series. There is no reason a 4 quarter game should last that long.
disagree. there is only a handful of teams who really suffer from the hack-a strategy. so we're supposed to change the rules for EVERYONE to help out 5-10 impressively poor FT shooters?

Charles Barkley Rule.


Also, if only a handful lf teams suffer from it then that means the rule won't have an effect on most teams. What's the downfall, you force teams to actually defend?
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The other thing about the hacking strategy is it completely stops fast breaks, semi-transition and forced turn overs. No easy buckets.

 

This is huge. How it affects the hacking team's offense on the other end. This is what killed the Spurs in the Clippers series last year. Going against a set defense during every hacking possession with no fast break opportunities. Pop might be the GOAT but I thought he blew the series last year with all the hacking.

post #44666 of 93193
Lol nah. If you can't shoot free throws, you get fouled. How often is up to the opponent. It's that simple.
post #44667 of 93193
Didn't the NBA change the rule because of havk a shaq? Isn't that why you can't foul under 2 minutes now?

It's not like the NBA hasn't changed the rules for "a handful of guys". The league has a history kf creating/changing rules for individual players laugh.gif
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Hell, you could conceivably dunk or layup from the ft line (can't back up further than the circle) so long as the ball gets to the rim/backboard before your feet hit the ground in the paint, and obviously you jumped entirely behind the line

 

Shooters can't cross the free throw line

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Hell, you could conceivably dunk or layup from the ft line (can't back up further than the circle) so long as the ball gets to the rim/backboard before your feet hit the ground in the paint, and obviously you jumped entirely behind the line

Shooters can't cross the free throw line

Do you know why that rule exists? Because Wilt used to just throw it off the backboard, catch it, and dunk.


How dare the nba make a rule because of a single player. The other guys should have just learned how to stopp it.
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The Thunder are gonna win
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