kids aint safe these days man

I aint talking about siding with teachers in a general sense. Especially since the person that did this wasn't even a teacher. I know what teachers have to deal with but this aint that discussion.

We talking about this vid and this situation only. Anybody condoning this especially with the reasoning that the girl deserved any sort of physical violence is a coward. No ways around it. To try and flip this and make it about disciplining children is straight clown status.

We talking about the school's rent-a-cop that gets called in to deal with disruptive unruly troubled children. Key word is children. That dude is an adult. The idea that if she doesn't listen to his requests/demands to leave the room that she deserves to get hands put on her is ridiculous.

And yeah, aint no denying you was clowning Raven in one thread and here yall both got the same damn view of things. No tap dancing around that man.
 
Master Zik said:
I aint talking about siding with teachers in a general sense. Especially since the person that did this wasn't even a teacher. I know what teachers have to deal with but this aint that discussion.

We talking about this vid and this situation only. Anybody condoning this especially with the reasoning that the girl deserved any sort of physical violence is a coward. No ways around it. To try and flip this and make it about disciplining children is straight clown status.

We talking about the school's rent-a-cop that gets called in to deal with disruptive unruly troubled children. Key word is children. That dude is an adult. The idea that if she doesn't listen to his requests/demands to leave the room that she deserves to get hands put on her is ridiculous.

And yeah, aint no denying you was clowning Raven in one thread and here yall both got the same damn view of things. No tap dancing around that man.
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One more time since you can't seem to get it....

1. She was asked by a teacher to leave the classroom and didn't leave....strike 1

2. She was asked to by a school administrator to leave the classroom and didn't leave...strike 2

3. She was asked by the cop to leave the classroom and didn't leave...strike 3

What's your suggestion for getting her to leave...pray about it?? Kids don't run the classroom, adults do. As I said before some teachers don't have time or energy to sympathize with kids, as that is truly not their job, just an added tool to use if you have been trained to do so. This particular situation isn't about race to me, but if it is for you and others more power to you. Nobody is playing games with kids out here, not everyone is soft-hearted like you.
 
SonOfTony said:
Yeah ok, you're not gonna tell what I see on a daily basis b :lol:

The teachers and security I work with are experienced and certified. Did I mention 3/4 of the kids in that school are black in a predominantly black neighborhood?
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I'm Black and have gone to schools that were predominately Black. Is that supposed to mean something? I went to high school where "security" guards were women and were incapable of handling the problems that routinely occurred. Brownie point for you for trying.
 
Deuce King said:
What's your suggestion for getting her to leave...pray about it?? Kids don't run the classroom, adults do. As I said before some teachers don't have time or energy to sympathize with kids, as that is truly not their job, just an added tool to use if you have been trained to do so. This particular situation isn't about race to me, but if it is for you and others more power to you. Nobody is playing games with kids out here, not everyone is soft-hearted like you.
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I've seen plenty situations where I've been in class, and kids where either being disrespectful, or on their phone and not listening to instruction. If they were asked to leave and did not comply, here are the actions that were taken.

A. Written up for suspension
B. Security was called to remove the student.
C. Principal or CEO was brought into the class.
D. Phone call home.
E. All the above

There is NEVER an excuse to physically (assault) remove a CHILD who is of no danger to themselves or others.
 
Deuce King said:
One more time since you can't seem to get it....

1. She was asked by a teacher to leave the classroom and didn't leave....strike 1

2. She was asked to by a school administrator to leave the classroom and didn't leave...strike 2

3. She was asked by the cop to leave the classroom and didn't leave...strike 3

What's your suggestion for getting her to leave...pray about it?? Kids don't run the classroom, adults do. As I said before some teachers don't have time or energy to sympathize with kids, as that is truly not their job, just an added tool to use if you have been trained to do so. This particular situation isn't about race to me, but if it is for you and others more power to you. Nobody is playing games with kids out here, not everyone is soft-hearted like you.
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Or how about write the kid up for texting in class if they don't want to put there phone away and continue on with class.

There was no reason to get an administrator and resource officer involved because she was texting in class. Once you do all that, it's a pissing match between the adult and kid and that's childish as hell for the adults to engage in.
 
Deuce King said:
Master Zik said:
I aint talking about siding with teachers in a general sense. Especially since the person that did this wasn't even a teacher. I know what teachers have to deal with but this aint that discussion.

We talking about this vid and this situation only. Anybody condoning this especially with the reasoning that the girl deserved any sort of physical violence is a coward. No ways around it. To try and flip this and make it about disciplining children is straight clown status.

We talking about the school's rent-a-cop that gets called in to deal with disruptive unruly troubled children. Key word is children. That dude is an adult. The idea that if she doesn't listen to his requests/demands to leave the room that she deserves to get hands put on her is ridiculous.

And yeah, aint no denying you was clowning Raven in one thread and here yall both got the same damn view of things. No tap dancing around that man.
Click to expand...

One more time since you can't seem to get it....

1. She was asked by a teacher to leave the classroom and didn't leave....strike 1

2. She was asked to by a school administrator to leave the classroom and didn't leave...strike 2

3. She was asked by the cop to leave the classroom and didn't leave...strike 3

What's your suggestion for getting her to leave...pray about it??
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It definitely isn't body slam while she in her desk.

Several ways to get her out the room. Take her possessions to incentivize her to leave not attack her.

Could've dragged her desk out the room not attack her.

Could've actually brought someone in to talk to her to get her to leave instead of just the repeated request by ppl for her to leave.

Kids don't run the classroom, adults do.
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Not an excuse for body slamming her. That's a coward's move.

As I said before some teachers don't have time or energy to sympathize with kids
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Not an excuse for body slamming her. That's a coward's move.

This particular situation isn't about race to me but if it is for you and others more power to you
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I think if we're gonna be talking about being clear and repeating ourselves so one can actually comprehend you should read my last post and find where I made this particular situation solely about race.

Nobody is playing games with kids out here, not everyone is soft-hearted like you.
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So if we aint out here body slamming children for not listening to us we're soft hearted.

You are a clown and a coward. I can only assume your next reply is when your banjo comes out and double down on using violence to discipline children cuz that's what works.
 
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don't listen to deuce he never eem came back with documents regarding the "robbery fear" law

i waited for you!
 
Master Zik said:
Deuce King said:
Master Zik said:
I aint talking about siding with teachers in a general sense. Especially since the person that did this wasn't even a teacher. I know what teachers have to deal with but this aint that discussion.

We talking about this vid and this situation only. Anybody condoning this especially with the reasoning that the girl deserved any sort of physical violence is a coward. No ways around it. To try and flip this and make it about disciplining children is straight clown status.

We talking about the school's rent-a-cop that gets called in to deal with disruptive unruly troubled children. Key word is children. That dude is an adult. The idea that if she doesn't listen to his requests/demands to leave the room that she deserves to get hands put on her is ridiculous.

And yeah, aint no denying you was clowning Raven in one thread and here yall both got the same damn view of things. No tap dancing around that man.
Click to expand...

One more time since you can't seem to get it....

1. She was asked by a teacher to leave the classroom and didn't leave....strike 1

2. She was asked to by a school administrator to leave the classroom and didn't leave...strike 2

3. She was asked by the cop to leave the classroom and didn't leave...strike 3

What's your suggestion for getting her to leave...pray about it??
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It definitely isn't body slam while she in her desk.

Several ways to get her out the room. Take her possessions to incentivize her to leave not attack her.

Could've dragged her desk out the room not attack her.

Could've actually brought someone in to talk to her to get her to leave instead of just the repeated request by ppl for her to leave.

Kids don't run the classroom, adults do.
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Not an excuse for body slamming her. That's a coward's move.

As I said before some teachers don't have time or energy to sympathize with kids
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Not an excuse for body slamming her. That's a coward's move.

This particular situation isn't about race to me but if it is for you and others more power to you
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I think if we're gonna be talking about being clear and repeating ourselves so one can actually comprehend you should read my last post and find where I made this particular situation solely about race.

Nobody is playing games with kids out here, not everyone is soft-hearted like you.
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So if we aint out here body slamming children for not listening to us we're soft hearted.

You are a clown and a coward. I can only assume your next reply is when your banjo comes out and double down on using violence to discipline children cuz that's what works.
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Negro can you read?? I already said the body slam was excessive. Type of ***** that argues just to argue.
 
instagram said:
don't listen to deuce he never eem came back with documents regarding the "robbery fear" law


i waited for you!
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Actually I did champ, go back and look at the thread again. I provided the direct link to DC Code and its explanation.
 
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you posted the same thing that was already posted and then fell back 
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Deuce King said:
Negro can you read?? I already said the body slam was excessive. Type of ***** that argues just to argue.
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Stop bull ********.

The **** you quoted me for then? Cuz you sure as hell didn't address how you and Raven Symone got the same ideas on this.

You list why they did then sarcastically ask what else are they suppose to do. You're either for violence against children in this situation or you aren't.

I couldn't care less about what you think about who should run the class room or that teachers don't have the energy to sympathize or how you don't play games with children cuz you're not soft hearted. That's a whole lot of rationalizing bull **** that you think matters. Had nothing to do with what's being talked about or what I asked.

No need to quote me to get on your soapbox.
 
Aren't Zik and Deuce the same person?
Why they arguing with each other?
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Ingenious Nick said:
I've seen plenty situations where I've been in class, and kids where either being disrespectful, or on their phone and not listening to instruction. If they were asked to leave and did not comply, here are the actions that were taken.

A. Written up for suspension
B. Security was called to remove the student.
C. Principal or CEO was brought into the class.
D. Phone call home.
E. All the above

There is NEVER an excuse to physically (assault) remove a CHILD who is of no danger to themselves or others.
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A

D

E

All mean the student is STILL in the class.

B
C

Can only happen if someone is available, which isn't always true.

So as @Deuce King  said, if the child isn't going to leave the room, what do you feel should be done?

I am not condoning what happened in the video before anyone says I am siding with the cop
 
If the child doesn't leave the room, let her be and deal with it after class, body slamming a child to the ground is NOT the answer man...why is that so hard to understand?...

All this was, is egos hurt and a pissing match between a child and a bunch of immature adults who felt the best way to handle the situation was to stoop down to the mentality of a 13 year old or however old she is.
 
DCAllAfrican DCAllAfrican

Continue with class until it's over.

No way the student is going to stay in the class when the bell rings.

When she gets up to leave tell her she has been written up.

Referral will result in detention, iss, oss but most definitely won't end with a body slam and arrest.
 
AEA18 said:
@DCAllAmerican

Continue with class until it's over.

No way the student is going to stay in the class when the bell rings.

When she gets up to leave tell her she has been written up.

Referral will result in detention, iss, oss but most definitely won't end with a body slam and arrest.
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That is one option, of course. Just let it continue.

BUT, if the child is there still on the phone, BLATANTLY disrespecting the culture of the classroom, it is very hard to tell the adult of the room to "Let it go and let the child be her."

Because if that child gets away with it, the other children will feel like they can as well.

So it isn't an easy situation at all man
 
ksteezy said:
If the child doesn't leave the room, let her be and deal with it after class, body slamming a child to the ground is NOT the answer man...why is that so hard to understand?...

All this was, is egos hurt and a pissing match between a child and a bunch of immature adults who felt the best way to handle the situation was to stoop down to the mentality of a 13 year old or however old she is.
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You have to be trolling at this point man because I don't see ANYONE in here condoning that. Please stop it
 
heLiumcLinton said:
I couldn't imagine something happening to my kid in school and not being able to reach them
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And also, what makes you think that you wouldn't be able to get in contact with the child if something were to happen. When stuff "happened" in the 90s and 00s when cell phones weren't around, how did parents get in contact with kids. Exactly, they can call the school
 
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