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Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican View Post

A
D
E

All mean the student is STILL in the class.

B

C

Can only happen if someone is available, which isn't always true.

So as @Deuce King
 said, if the child isn't going to leave the room, what do you feel should be done?

I am not condoning what happened in the video before anyone says I am siding with the cop
No, those solutions does not mean the student is still in class. It also depends on the student if he or she is willing to remove themselves. Keep in mind I'm speaking from my middle/high school experience.

The solutions I listed should be the ONLY options. Because anything other than that means physical removal. Which is out if the question for failing to comply to cell phone rules.
post #452 of 646
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No, those solutions does not mean the student is still in class. It also depends on the student if he or she is willing to remove themselves. Keep in mind I'm speaking from my middle/high school experience.

The solutions I listed should be the ONLY options. Because anything other than that means physical removal. Which is out if the question for failing to comply to cell phone rules.

I thought we were speaking about THIS situation though, where the student REFUSED to leave Nick.

post #453 of 646
Now this is somebody making it about race









I said COT DAMN! mean.gif
post #454 of 646
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Originally Posted by Deuce King View Post

Those are great suggestions and all champ, really they are. My question in response would be what would you do if the child still doesn't leave or if the parent doesn't pick up their phone or if the parents does pick up their phone and doesn't care. It definitely happens.

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I thought we were speaking about THIS situation though, where the student REFUSED to leave Nick.

I've seen this exact situation and others like it in classes soooo many times while in school. If all the steps I listed were taken (the one's that can be applied since not all options are available always) then you leave her be.

Continue teaching the class and pay her no mind. Don't take away from students who want to learn because another student doesn't want to. As others have stated, this was an even bigger distraction. Everytime I've seen this happen the teacher address the problem, if that doesn't work continue teaching and handle it after. No physical force needed.
post #455 of 646
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I thought a teacher was there to teach, that's the only authority you have. You teach the ones who want to learn, it's simple. You more worried about a kids phone than making sure these kids pass these tests.
Aight you can't be serious
I am

I send my son to school to learn, nothing more nothing less. laugh.gif @ teachers needing 'authority' to do their job
Edited by heLiumcLinton - 10/29/15 at 2:20pm
post #456 of 646
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I thought a teacher was there to teach, that's the only authority you have. You teach the ones who want to learn, it's simple. You more worried about a kids phone than making sure these kids pass these tests.
Aight you can't be serious
I am

I send my son to school to learn, nothing more nothing less. laugh.gif @ teachers needing 'authority' to do their job

they need the students attention to do their job

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post #457 of 646
that has nothing to do with authority
post #458 of 646
1 student being on the phone texting or whatever should not stop you from teaching the rest of the class.

You're in the wrong field if you can't deal with that.
post #459 of 646
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Originally Posted by Ingenious Nick View Post

1 student being on the phone texting or whatever should not stop you from teaching the rest of the class.

You're in the wrong field if you can't deal with that.
Tell that to a teacher that is being observed by an administrator. You are really simplifying that situation but ok
post #460 of 646
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Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican View Post

Tell that to a teacher that is being observed by an administrator. You are really simplifying that situation but ok
Then you explain to the administrator of the situation. Like I said I've been in the situation plenty of times, I've been the kid who was on the phone when I wasn't supposed to be. It's really not complicated, people are making it out to be.

DC what would you do ? since everything I say is simplified, I'm curious to hear your pov. Forgive me if you already stated it.

I don't feel digging through the walls of text.
post #461 of 646
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Originally Posted by Ingenious Nick View Post

1 student being on the phone texting or whatever should not stop you from teaching the rest of the class.

You're in the wrong field if you can't deal with that.

letting one student do whatever he/she wants sets a bad example for the class and distracts others

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post #462 of 646
@sea manup What's your solution then ? Besides physical removal.
post #463 of 646
I answered earlier but when I get by a pc I will again
post #464 of 646
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I thought a teacher was there to teach, that's the only authority you have. You teach the ones who want to learn, it's simple. You more worried about a kids phone than making sure these kids pass these tests.
Aight you can't be serious
I am

I send my son to school to learn, nothing more nothing less. laugh.gif @ teachers needing 'authority' to do their job

And if you catch wind of a student causing a problem being LEFT in the class, don't you think that your child's education is being compromised...especially if they're being a distraction?

You want to do what's right by your child.
post #465 of 646
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And if you catch wind of a student causing a problem being LEFT in the class, don't you think that your child's education is being compromised...especially if they're being a distraction?

You want to do what's right by your child.

He wasn't being serious man. And yall call me a troll. He always trolls for the "underdog" so it appears he isn't trolling. I'm hip to his game.

post #466 of 646
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Then you explain to the administrator of the situation. Like I said I've been in the situation plenty of times, I've been the kid who was on the phone when I wasn't supposed to be. It's really not complicated, people are making it out to be.

DC what would you do ? since everything I say is simplified, I'm curious to hear your pov. Forgive me if you already stated it.

I don't feel digging through the walls of text.

No administrator gives a damn about your explanation. If an assistant principal walks into your room, and a student is on a phone and not listening to YOUR directions, trust that you will be viewed as having a lack of classroom management. Not really sure what you believe an administrator would accept as a viable "explanation." 

 

As I mentioned earlier, I would TRY to get a social worker to come in the room and try to de-escalate the situation. But that isn't guaranteed  to work. 

post #467 of 646
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Now this is somebody making it about race









I said COT DAMN! mean.gif

 

 

 

So getting kicked out of class for being a horrible student=being tied to a tree and flogged by the Massa Colonel? Sounds legit.

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post #468 of 646
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@sea manup What's your solution then ? Besides physical removal.

1. take the phone away

 

2. ask student to leave the class

 

3. physical removal 

 

there are kids trying to learn, no need to have a disrespectful kid clowning around 

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post #469 of 646
Take a student's phone? Nope.
post #470 of 646
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Originally Posted by Mr S J King View Post

A punk asss teacher, called a punk asss cop, and a young lady dealing with the loss of her mother gets treated worse than a prison inmate.
If your punk asss can't handle urban American kids, then your punk asss don't need to take a job teaching in urban America.

Sums it up perfectly.
post #471 of 646
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Originally Posted by Mr S J King View Post

A punk asss teacher, called a punk asss cop, and a young lady dealing with the loss of her mother gets treated worse than a prison inmate.
If your punk asss can't handle urban American kids, then your punk asss don't need to take a job teaching in urban America.

But why does the teacher have to be all of that?

post #472 of 646
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Take a student's phone? Nope.


Yea, I'm good. Like I said, teachers don't get paid enough for this sh$$. :lol

 

 nope

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post #473 of 646

Brave teacher who took a phone away from a student, gets her @## beat

 

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post #474 of 646

Cell phones have NO PLACE in the classroom. 

 

AGAIN

post #475 of 646
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No administrator gives a damn about your explanation. If an assistant principal walks into your room, and a student is on a phone and not listening to YOUR directions, trust that you will be viewed as having a lack of classroom management. Not really sure what you believe an administrator would accept as a viable "explanation." 

As I mentioned earlier, I would TRY to get a social worker to come in the room and try to de-escalate the situation. But that isn't guaranteed  to work. 

Guess that depends on the administrator really and the teacher. I've seen principals, vice principals, administrators, and even the owner of the school in the exact situation. Either they buy it or they don't. Most times (from what I've seen) it's the teachers word vs the student. And guess who's word is believed first ?

We're pretty much on the same page when it comes to brining someone into the room to help with removal. But as you've stated that doesn't always work.
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Originally Posted by sea manup View Post

1. take the phone away

2. ask student to leave the class

3. physical removal 

there are kids trying to learn, no need to have a disrespectful kid clowning around 

I agree with all of that except 3.
post #476 of 646

Here in DC< we have "Master Educators." Officials from the District that come evaluate teachers. The, "I have a student that isn't listening to me and is on their phone" nonsense WON'T work there.

post #477 of 646
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Take a student's phone? Nope.

in my 8th grade math class the teacher took away one of my friend's phones because he was texting his gf in class and she read the entire text convo out loud to the class 

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post #478 of 646

I am just saying that it is a tough situation to be in man. You have to be careful before you are blaming the adults because from what I read (yes I only know PART of the story), they followed protocol.

 

1. Teacher tried to redirect student on phone. She couldn't, she called ADMIN

 

2. Admin tried to redirect student, she couldn't, she called police.

 

3. Police tried to redirect student, he couldn't, so that is why he used forced. I believe force was WRONG but I also don't know what a better alternative would have been considering the student didn't listen to ANY adult. Like I said, TOUGH situation

 

 

I AM NOT SAYING THE POLICE SHOULD HAVE SLAMMED THE GIRL

 

I AM NOT SAYING THE POLICE SHOULD HAVE SLAMMED THE GIRL

 

I AM NOT SAYING THE POLICE SHOULD HAVE SLAMMED THE GIRL

 

I AM NOT SAYING THE POLICE SHOULD HAVE SLAMMED THE GIRL

 

I AM NOT SAYING THE POLICE SHOULD HAVE SLAMMED THE GIRL

 
post #479 of 646
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Now this is somebody making it about race











I said COT DAMN! mean.gif
So getting kicked out of class for being a horrible student=being tied to a tree and flogged by the Massa Colonel? Sounds legit.
roll.gif Bruh! I know you didn't read that and that's what you got out of it. The violence in both instances is irrelevant to what's being compared here. C'mon now.
post #480 of 646
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I am just saying that it is a tough situation to be in man. You have to be careful before you are blaming the adults because from what I read (yes I only know PART of the story), they followed protocol.

 

1. Teacher tried to redirect student on phone. She couldn't, she called ADMIN

 

2. Admin tried to redirect student, she couldn't, she called police.

 

3. Police tried to redirect student, he couldn't, so that is why he used forced. I believe force was WRONG but I also don't know what a better alternative would have been considering the student didn't listen to ANY adult. Like I said, TOUGH situation

 

 

I AM NOT SAYING THE POLICE SHOULD HAVE SLAMMED THE GIRL

 

I AM NOT SAYING THE POLICE SHOULD HAVE SLAMMED THE GIRL

 

I AM NOT SAYING THE POLICE SHOULD HAVE SLAMMED THE GIRL

 

I AM NOT SAYING THE POLICE SHOULD HAVE SLAMMED THE GIRL

 

I AM NOT SAYING THE POLICE SHOULD HAVE SLAMMED THE GIRL

 

if it gets to that point there's nothing wrong with using force

 

just not rock bottoming a 10 year old girl 

 

pick her up and carry her out like the child she is 

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