kids aint safe these days man

What I am saying is Leadership 101.

If some of your subordinates aren't CHECKED, the rest of the "inmates" will believe they can get away with it.

Students don't fear consequences. Again, I am telling you from experience.

So "waiting to handle it later" doesn't send a message to the rest of the kids that will see this girl getting away with doing what she wants, when she wants.

That is all I am saying
 
And also, MANY schools don't allow teachers to lock classroom doors. So I don't know why you assume you can KEEP her out of the room if she leaves.
 
DCAllAmerican said:
What I am saying is Leadership 101.

If some of your subordinates aren't CHECKED, the rest of the "inmates" will believe they can get away with it.

Students don't fear consequences. Again, I am telling you from experience.

So "waiting to handle it later" doesn't send a message to the rest of the kids that will see this girl getting away with doing what she wants, when she wants.

That is all I am saying
Click to expand...

I understand what you're saying but I guess we can agree to disagree. Not every student is in urban America is as outwardly defiant as that girl otherwise there would have been a team of cops in that classroom slamming kids left and right. But again if they can't behave separate them from the rest of the class.
 
DCAllAmerican said:
And also, MANY schools don't allow teachers to lock classroom doors. So I don't know why you assume you can KEEP her out of the room if she leaves.
Click to expand...

So what point are you even arguing right now? How do you think this should have been handled
 
Last edited:
jdfrenchbread23 said:
I understand what you're saying but I guess we can agree to disagree. Not every student is in urban America is as outwardly defiant as that girl otherwise there would have been a team of cops in that classroom slamming kids left and right. But again if they can't behave separate them from the rest of the class.
Click to expand...
Every student is NOT as outwardly defiant. You are right. But even the best, most well behaved student will alter their behavior, for the worse, if they see there are no consequences for unwanted behavior. So allowing someone to do their thing, and WAITING to do something about it later doesn't send a message to the other kids. And your classroom management, as a teacher, WILL be compromised.

I am simply saying there is NO right way that things should have been handled. It is a tough situation man
 
It is virtually impossible to expel a student from the neighborhood school
 
Last edited:
Way too much to quote, but I think DCAllAfrican DCAllAfrican hit the nail on the head with a lot of the points he was making over the past couple of pages.

It's a tough situation. However, that teacher is also looking out for the well-being of the other kids in the class who are TRYING to learn. Keeping that girl in there and attempting to go on with your lesson isn't the best practice and it's unfair to the other kids in the class.
 
JJs07 said:
Way too much to quote, but I think DCAllAfrican DCAllAfrican hit the nail on the head with a lot of the points he was making over the past couple of pages.

It's a tough situation. However, that teacher is also looking out for the well-being of the other kids in the class who are TRYING to learn. Keeping that girl in there and attempting to go on with your lesson isn't the best practice and it's unfair to the other kids in the class.
Click to expand...

I understand that what you're saying. And I understand the motives of the teacher. But in a school where (im assuming) kids often act like this why is there no set protocol? Or is what we witnessed in the video what protocol is? from what I can tell is they went from asking her to leave to dragging her out of the class. Why did the officer go Into that situation thinking that kind of response was okay?
 
DCAllAmerican said:
You know someone has to AGREE to show up for Detention right?
Click to expand...

Not really.

At the school in question you had 2 weeks to serve your detention hours or you got suspended. 3 suspensions and you were recommended to get held back.

A write up also potentially meant a suspension.

So again?

Why couldn't she just write her up and give her detention hours and keep it moving instead of bringing in 2 more adults to have a pissing match with a 15 year old, which was a bigger distraction than her messing around on her phone in the first place?
 
FLESH PRINCE said:
Not really.

At the school in question you had 2 weeks to serve your detention hours or you got suspended. 3 suspensions and you were recommended to get held back.

A write up also potentially meant a suspension.

So again?

Why couldn't she just write her up and give her detention hours and keep it moving instead of bringing in 2 more adults to have a pissing match with a 15 year old, which was a bigger distraction than her messing around on her phone in the first place?
Click to expand...
I see kids not show up for detention every week. So yea.......

And I explained NUMEROUS times why, "Letting the child stay in the room while she is disrespecting the rules of the class-room with having her cell phone out" isn't a good idea.
 
DCAllAmerican said:
I see kids not show up for detention every week. So yea.......

And I explained NUMEROUS times why, "Letting the child stay in the room while she is disrespecting the rules of the class-room with having her cell phone out" isn't a good idea.
Click to expand...

But I mean they can not show up if they want to lol. That's their prerogative. It's a suspension that will eventually result in them being sent home for the year and having to repeat the grade if they do it 3 times.
 
FLESH PRINCE said:
But I mean they can not show up if they want to lol. That's their prerogative. It's a suspension that will eventually result in them being sent home for the year and having to repeat the grade if they do it 3 times.
Click to expand...
So if other students see their classmates not adhering to rules and regulations because there are essentially NO consequences, what will be their incentive to continue following rules Prince?
 
DCAllAmerican said:
So if other students see their classmates not adhering to rules and regulations because there are essentially NO consequences, what will be their incentive to continue following rules Prince?
Click to expand...

There is a consequence though lol.

She got written up (which is potentially a suspension or more detention hours depending on how your administrator feels) and got detention hours (which becomes a suspension if you don't serve your hours). That's potentially 2/3 of your 3 suspensions allowed per school year used up because you didn't want to get off of Instagram.

Has more of a long term effect and no one has to engage in any pissing match or do stupid **** like F5 her across the room because their ego is bruised.

Just because there isn't an immediate visual consequence doesn't mean she's getting off Scott-free.
 
Last edited:
instagram said:
 
weren't you a reporter or a journalist?

what grade do you teach?

also, are the school systems really strict on teachers (e.g. like with tenure?)
Click to expand...
I was never a reporter or journalist. Nor did I ever say I was one. That was a conclusion NikeTalk came to.

8th Grade
 
DCAllAmerican said:
 
I was never a reporter or journalist. Nor did I ever say I was one. That was a conclusion NikeTalk came to.

8th Grade
Click to expand...
oh. idk cuz u played along w it.

my colleagues and even my clients ask me if i would ever think about taking a position in school. could never.

not that i would rock bottom students, but i just don't have that kind of patience in that setting.

I'm cool with seeing adolescents in a group therapy or family therapy setting.

shout out and respect to all the educators out there on NT
 
Most of you might be ignorant to classifications at school sites so I'll just say this...

Before you judge a student who fights a teacher, you should know that a lot of kids have IEPs that detail their impairment and multiple learning disabilities...etc.

I'm not defending their actions; however, a lot of times, for many kids, IEP or not, their brains are always on fight or flight mode.

And, more often than not, gen Ed teachers either a. Don't read their IEPs or b. Don't want to deal with a sped student and become the trigger to their bad behaviors.

With due process, children with IEPs are harder to suspend and expel because of their disabilities and rights under the sped service they're provided.

Education is very much a gray area.
 
Spring Valley students stage walkout in support of Ben Fields

COLUMBIA, SC (WIS) - Students at Spring Valley High School staged a brief walkout in support of school resource officer Ben Fields, the Richland County sheriff's deputy caught on camera slamming and dragging a student out of a desk earlier this week.

Hundreds of students walked out of class around 10 a.m. and into the school's atrium before school administrators returned the students to class.

One administrator told the students that none of them would be suspended.

"We've heard your voices, okay," the administrator said. "We appreciate you taking time to do this, but again, as you know, we always focus on teaching and learning, so let's head on back to class."

Video and photos from the incident captured by students show many of them saying "Free Fields" or wearing T-shirts that say "#BringBackFields."

Fields was fired by Sheriff Leon Lott earlier this week after video of the incident between him and a female student exploded on social media and sparked a nationwide discussion on school resource officers and use of force.

The former deputy also released a statement through his attorney defending his actions.

"We believe that Mr. Fields' actions were justified and lawful throughout the circumstances of which he was confronted during this incident," the attorney's statement said.

We've reached out to the district, who called the walkout "small" and "orderly."
Click to expand...
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

B
Black woman calls cops only to be killed by cops.
Replies
11
Views
2K
1995
1995
KingdomFlatbush
Renting Vs. Buying
Replies
18
Views
2K
htg designs
htg designs
ythought
Fellas, am I the only person not having a digital business card? My new boss thinks so
Replies
8
Views
1K
jayt1202
jayt1202

The ultimate sneaker enthusiast community.

NikeTalk was created as a way of giving back to both the sneaker enthusiast community and to the greater global community of which we are all a part.

NikeTalk is NOT affiliated with Nike Inc. in any way, shape, or form. All opinions expressed herein do not necessarily reflect those of Nike, Inc.

© 1999-2024 NikeTalk.com

Share this page

Back
Top Bottom