kids aint safe these days man

shoefreakbaby said:
I wish i could slam all of those kids like ben fields did.
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Its easy to say when none of us don't go to the school. The media swooped in thinking they had all the answers when on the ground itself the situation was more complicated than they painted the picture to be. If you bothered to check other sources, they state that he served as a mentor and inspiration to some students especially those on the football team. Everything isn't Black and White (no pun intended) in this case. There is a lot of grey that many of us fail to comprehend and honestly some don't want to believe.
 
Unless my son put lives in danger no authority figure at his school should handle him like that period. Because she was being disobedient? She deserved to be body slammed? Get dude out of here.
 
I guess I don't understand why people are saying that leaving the girl in class on her phone would take away from learning time for other students.

Is it disrespectful? Obviously. But you address it, let her (and the rest of the class) know the consequences that will be coming should she not leave the class, give her a chance to comply and if she doesn't, keep it moving. Deal with the consequences of her disrespect later. When she doesn't show up for class because she's suspended the kids may figure out that you weren't joking.

The bigger distraction was calling the cop in and making a scene about a student quietly using their phone during class (which is what other students said she was doing). Not everything is about a show of force/authority for other students to see--this isn't a prison.
 
Hundreds of students at Spring Valley High School in South Carolina staged a walk-out in support of Deputy Ben Fields today at about 10am local time. The students left class and gathered in the atrium. Many students chanted ‪#‎freefields‬ and wore t-shirts proclaiming support for the fired deputy. From the images coming out of the protest, we know that the mix of students include multiple races and both genders. What is right knows no color.

School administrators told the students that their voices have been heard. The students will not face disciplinary action

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TheRealRell said:
Spring Valley students stage walkout in support of Ben Fields

COLUMBIA, SC (WIS) - Students at Spring Valley High School staged a brief walkout in support of school resource officer Ben Fields, the Richland County sheriff's deputy caught on camera slamming and dragging a student out of a desk earlier this week.

Hundreds of students walked out of class around 10 a.m. and into the school's atrium before school administrators returned the students to class.

One administrator told the students that none of them would be suspended.

"We've heard your voices, okay," the administrator said. "We appreciate you taking time to do this, but again, as you know, we always focus on teaching and learning, so let's head on back to class."

Video and photos from the incident captured by students show many of them saying "Free Fields" or wearing T-shirts that say "#BringBackFields."

Fields was fired by Sheriff Leon Lott earlier this week after video of the incident between him and a female student exploded on social media and sparked a nationwide discussion on school resource officers and use of force.

The former deputy also released a statement through his attorney defending his actions.

"We believe that Mr. Fields' actions were justified and lawful throughout the circumstances of which he was confronted during this incident," the attorney's statement said.

We've reached out to the district, who called the walkout "small" and "orderly."
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Whoa....

superblyTRIFE said:
I guess I don't understand why people are saying that leaving the girl in class on her phone would take away from learning time for other students.

Is it disrespectful? Obviously. But you address it, let her (and the rest of the class) know the consequences that will be coming should she not leave the class, give her a chance to comply and if she doesn't, keep it moving. Deal with the consequences of her disrespect later. When she doesn't show up for class because she's suspended the kids may figure out that you weren't joking.

The bigger distraction was calling the cop in and making a scene about a student quietly using their phone during class (which is what other students said she was doing). Not everything is about a show of force/authority for other students to see--this isn't a prison.
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I mean, she did have three chances to put her phone away....

Also, if you have someone blatantly disregarding what you're saying and you leave them in the class, how is it not a distraction to everyone else?

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DCAA teaches and he addressed this.
 
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No. She been put her phone away, she wouldn't GIVE IT to them is why they were trippin...which I wouldn't do either and never have
 
DCAllAmerican said:
^ Show me anyone that said the outcome that happened SHOULD have been what happened.  I will wait. Just show me ONE person

And for your: suspend/detention/referral/call parents suggestions, why do you think ANY of those would work? If this girl isn't even listening to the damn assistant principal to leave the room why do you think she would care about ANY of those consequences?

Let me make something clear man. MANY OF THESE KIDS DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT YOUR SCHOOL'S CONSEQUENCES.

Not sure why yall think writing a child up puts fear in their hearts. They don't give a damn. They don't care. They will just NOT show up for detention. They will come to school when they are suspended.

Yall really over-simplify this discipline stuff when it comes to kids that have NOTHING to lose. (THat isn't the majority of kids at all), but for those that do, unless you kick them out of your school there isn't much you can do man.

Most don't have the support at home.
Most adults in the school don't want to deal with them because bridges have been burnt.

It is NOT as easy as you make it out to be.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN I BELIEVE THE POLICE SHOULD HAVE DID WHAT HE DID.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN I BELIEVE THE POLICE SHOULD HAVE DID WHAT HE DID.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN I BELIEVE THE POLICE SHOULD HAVE DID WHAT HE DID.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN I BELIEVE THE POLICE SHOULD HAVE DID WHAT HE DID.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN I BELIEVE THE POLICE SHOULD HAVE DID WHAT HE DID.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN I BELIEVE THE POLICE SHOULD HAVE DID WHAT HE DID.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN I BELIEVE THE POLICE SHOULD HAVE DID WHAT HE DID.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN I BELIEVE THE POLICE SHOULD HAVE DID WHAT HE DID.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN I BELIEVE THE POLICE SHOULD HAVE DID WHAT HE DID.
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dc that was a well wrtiiten opposition post.

the problem for me this whole time was the use of force.
 
MrWavez said:
No. She been put her phone away, she wouldn't GIVE IT to them is why they were trippin...which I wouldn't do either and never have
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Still doesn't negate the fact that she was asked three times to turn it over.
 
JJs07 said:
 
TheRealRell said:
 
Spring Valley students stage walkout in support of Ben Fields

COLUMBIA, SC (WIS) - Students at Spring Valley High School staged a brief walkout in support of school resource officer Ben Fields, the Richland County sheriff's deputy caught on camera slamming and dragging a student out of a desk earlier this week.

Hundreds of students walked out of class around 10 a.m. and into the school's atrium before school administrators returned the students to class.

One administrator told the students that none of them would be suspended.

"We've heard your voices, okay," the administrator said. "We appreciate you taking time to do this, but again, as you know, we always focus on teaching and learning, so let's head on back to class."

Video and photos from the incident captured by students show many of them saying "Free Fields" or wearing T-shirts that say "#BringBackFields."

Fields was fired by Sheriff Leon Lott earlier this week after video of the incident between him and a female student exploded on social media and sparked a nationwide discussion on school resource officers and use of force.

The former deputy also released a statement through his attorney defending his actions.

"We believe that Mr. Fields' actions were justified and lawful throughout the circumstances of which he was confronted during this incident," the attorney's statement said.

We've reached out to the district, who called the walkout "small" and "orderly."
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Whoa....
superblyTRIFE said:
I guess I don't understand why people are saying that leaving the girl in class on her phone would take away from learning time for other students.

Is it disrespectful? Obviously. But you address it, let her (and the rest of the class) know the consequences that will be coming should she not leave the class, give her a chance to comply and if she doesn't, keep it moving. Deal with the consequences of her disrespect later. When she doesn't show up for class because she's suspended the kids may figure out that you weren't joking.

The bigger distraction was calling the cop in and making a scene about a student quietly using their phone during class (which is what other students said she was doing). Not everything is about a show of force/authority for other students to see--this isn't a prison.
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I mean, she did have three chances to put her phone away....

Also, if you have someone blatantly disregarding what you're saying and you leave them in the class, how is it not a distraction to everyone else?

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DCAA teaches and he addressed this.
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So is 3 times the magic number?  3 times and no complying = tossed across the room?  I'm not sure why the number of times she was given a chance matters, to be honest.  It doesn't change the fact that being flipped over in a desk and chucked across the room doesn't fit the "crime".  

Is stopping class to address a disrespectful student a distraction?  Yes.  Is that student sitting in class quietly on her phone a distraction to other students?  I personally don't think so, especially if you address the situation and let it be known in front of the class the consequences of those actions.  See the problem, address it one time including what will happen if they don't comply and keep it pushing.  Deal with it later.  

What do you think helped the other students lose focus on their studies more?  The girl sitting there on her phone/not wanting to give it up or dealing with seeing a peer flipped over in her desk and thrown across the room?  Sometimes you have to choose your battles.  
 
They set up a GoFund me for the girl and is reaching about $30k today. They're acting like she's actually injured or close to dying. Ironically they put a picture of the girl swinging at the cop. I guess some more students will follow and disobey authority until they get physically forced to leave so they can get awards and publicity too.



Damn.
 
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Cops should not be in that kid's grill unless he/she has drugs or weapons. Period.
 
MR HIGHNESS said:
They set up a GoFund me for the girl and is reaching about $30k today. They're acting like she's actually injured. Ironically they put a picture of the girl swinging at the cop. I guess some more students will follow and disobey authority until they get physically forced to leave so they can get awards and publicity too.



Damn.
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maybe because she an orphan?


but yeah kids might act up to get pubilicty we are in the facebook gen
 
THE QBZ said:
dc that was a well wrtiiten opposition post.

the problem for me this whole time was the use of force.
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The use of force was wrong.

But people in here are providing WEAK alternative solutions.

"Let her sit in the room."
"Give her detention"
"Write her up."

When I am telling yall, those things don't work when it comes to children with behavior issues

You can't threaten a damn child witih, "Imma call your mother" in 2015. Especially if that child doesn't respect or listen to their mother (Many students with behavior issues).

That is what I am saying
 
That's dope that ppl sending money to that girl :smokin

Nice that it's someone who needs it and deserves it instead of racist murderers
 
people that are supporting the student are basically saying it's okay for kids to misbehave this way, they can do whatever they want, and have no respect for authority (whether it be the teacher, principal's or police)

i don't agree with the officers actions, but the student was just as much at fault.
 
JJs07 said:
heLiumcLinton said:
DCAllAmerican said:
heLiumcLinton said:
I thought a teacher was there to teach, that's the only authority you have. You teach the ones who want to learn, it's simple. You more worried about a kids phone than making sure these kids pass these tests.
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Aight you can't be serious
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I am

I send my son to school to learn, nothing more nothing less. :lol: @ teachers needing 'authority' to do their job
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And if you catch wind of a student causing a problem being LEFT in the class, don't you think that your child's education is being compromised...especially if they're being a distraction?

You want to do what's right by your child.
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How is a child on their phone distracting my son though? My son is looking at the damn board. Calling three administrators to deal with that child is a disruption to my sons education.
 
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