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illmatic34 said:
Well that isn't really treating them with respect by telling them "Hey I treat gay people with respect but I'll be damned if you try to push the gay agenda on me" - nor is there any legitimate reason (billionth time I've said this) to disagree with the concept of homosexuality.


Since you like to ask questions, my question for you is why don't you personally support homosexuality?
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Gays can push their believes on me but I cant say no thanks?
Is this what you are telling me?
 
LuckyLuchiano said:
 
sea manup said:
they dont choose who they are attracted to, no one does
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Is english also  your 2nd language also? Because your response literally had nothing to do with anything.
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Please use proper english when attempting to criticize my english, thanks! 
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LuckyLuchiano said:
You're an idiot. You can disassociate yourself all you want, there is still no closet to hide in. A black or asian will still be subjected to racism. There is no "downlow" or "closet" concept as it applies to race.
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Did it ever occur to you people can discriminate against a gay person without their sexuality being disclosed?
 
LuckyLuchiano said:
So you are saying racism doesnt exist in the LGBT community? Yet I post an article displaying it and LionBlood aka Anton even says the same thing numerous times in this thread.

Ok
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I never said racism doesn't exist within the LBGT community, I said that if you are gay YOU ARE GAY...there isn't different believes of gayness, unlike religion that has many versions....never said that all gay people get along either...what a dumb assumption.

Anyways bruh, go on with your believes fam...I hope you don't end up fathering a homosexual child....it will be a rough life for him/her.
 
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illmatic34 said:
Well that isn't really treating them with respect by telling them "Hey I treat gay people with respect but I'll be damned if you try to push the gay agenda on me" - nor is there any legitimate reason (billionth time I've said this) to disagree with the concept of homosexuality.


Since you like to ask questions, my question for you is why don't you personally support homosexuality?
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Gays can push their believes  beliefs on me but I cant say no thanks?
Is this what you are telling me?
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To be fair, belief is probably a 3rd grade vocabulary word. 
 
sea manup said:
religion is a social construct that is used to control the masses and has held the human race back both socially and scientifically for centuries 

sexual orientation is an uncontrollable, natural human urge to feel attracted to other humans. in the case of gay men, they happen to be attracted to other men. 
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So, it's ok for him or anyone to spew hatred towards religious folks because people choose religion?
 
LuckyLuchiano said:
Gays can push their believes on me but I cant say no thanks?
Is this what you are telling me?
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Push what "beliefs" exactly? That men can love men and women can love women?

I think you have beliefs confused with equality. The "agenda" they're pushing out is equality.
 
illmatic34 said:
Did it ever occur to you people can discriminate against a gay person without their sexuality being disclosed?
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What does this have to do with me agreeing that gays should be able to do what they want in life? Why do you have to bring up blacks, yet refuse to compare any other group? Why do you have to compare unrelated and very different issues?
 
letsgetit22 said:
 
sea manup said:
religion is a social construct that is used to control the masses and has held the human race back both socially and scientifically for centuries 

sexual orientation is an uncontrollable, natural human urge to feel attracted to other humans. in the case of gay men, they happen to be attracted to other men. 
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So, it's ok for him or anyone to spew hatred towards religious folks because people choose religion?
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disagreeing with and pointing out logical flaws of a religion is not spewing hate

you may have gotten offended by it but that doesn't mean he's being hateful 
 
LIONBLOOD said:
Master Zik said:
Any time you take up for one group asking/arguing for justice and equality and then deny/ignore through arguing or w/e yall call this bull **** in here of another group asking for the same justice and equality you're being a hypocrite.


The rest is the tired ignorance listing who had it worse, trying to compare struggles, who has more rights, etc.


Keep in mind the entire way it started in this thread is utter bull ****.
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Yea I agree with your first statement, but you said both sides are being hypocrites because honestly I only see one side in here playing the "who had it worse" game and another side saying gays have it bad and the same injustices that perpetuate racism applies here. 
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It's more like hypocrisy on one side and ignorance on the other but the two are blending on both sides from what I'm reading from certain posters who are notorious hypocrites cuz I saw yourself listing some of the things LBGT ppl have suffered through as if they need to be compared to what black ppl have gone through.

All that matters is that they're not getting the same rights based off their sexual orientation. That's all the discrimination needed. If ppl want to front like they don't know about the beatings and suicides that's on them.

This seemed to have started with that Belgium dude Colombia and Lucky. That guy made the same mistake most do by bringing in race. No surprise dudes pounced on it. You can call out hypocrisy but just do it the right way. Trying to make it seem like the LBGT community has gone through what black Americans have is just false on it's face. This is what commonly happens when ppl try to point this out. They try to compare tit for tat. It's not really a fine line you have to walk to make this observation but ppl steady keep falling in to the trap and proceeding to say the dumbest **** in regards to black ppl. It's ridiculous. That leads to other ppl jumping in pretending like they don't know about the plight of the black person in America, trolling or just taking the opportunity to yell hypocrite to a black poster despite not being any better themselves. I'd just say look at everybody on your side of the argument. A lot of the same names.

As for the other side, no you don't have to accept the LBGT community. You can even not want to openly support them and not speak your mind when you know something is a clear injustice. You don't have to like them but you gonna look like some clowns if you speaking against their fight for equal rights. However, if you just a plain bigot and dislike that group for w/e reason or issue you have with their sexual orientation or gender transition well you're a straight up hypocrite if you a black person that feels the Civil Rights movement was justified. You're judging them based on something that brings no harm to anyone else or themselves.
 
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LuckyLuchiano said:
What does this have to do with me agreeing that gays should be able to do what they want in life? Why do you have to bring up blacks, yet refuse to compare any other group? Why do you have to compare unrelated and very different issues?
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I'm talking about your argument about being a closeted gay. No, blacks or Asians don't have a closet to "hide" in but just because gays can hide their sexuality by not making out with other dudes they can still be discriminated against.
 
I don't understand why people can't just look away or not react. Like how does this affect anyone here?
 
sea manup said:
disagreeing with and pointing out logical flaws of a religion is not spewing hate

you may have gotten offended by it but that doesn't mean he's being hateful 
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:lol: @ logical flaws. Here you go being condescending.
Can't expect religious folks to show empathy when people like him are constantly spewing hatred towards them; even when it has nothing to do with homosexuality. FYI... not all religious folks are homophobic.

Do you think there are atheist who are homophobic?
 
LuckyLuchiano said:
View media item 1791964Still saying a bunch of nothing
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Since we're not making any progress about comparisons, let's talk about something else. You personally don't agree with homosexuality for whatever reason. Pushing "beliefs" is nothing more than fighting for equality. No gays are looking to indoctrinate anyone, just trying to gain acceptance. To act as if "I disagree with homosexuality but I treat gay people with respect" is OK isn't. That's just two-faced. If you don't agree with it, you obviously have a problem with it. There is no legitimate reason to disapprove of homosexuality. None. Just like it isn't rational to hate anyone because of things they can't change and/or born with.
 
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sea manup said:
disagreeing with and pointing out logical flaws of a religion is not spewing hate

you may have gotten offended by it but that doesn't mean he's being hateful 
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@ logical flaws. Here you go being condescending.
Can't expect religious folks to show empathy when people like him are constantly spewing hatred towards them; even when it has nothing to do with homosexuality. FYI... not all religious folks are homophobic.

Do you think there are atheist who are homophobic?
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of course there are atheists that are homophobic, and not all religious folk are homophobic. However, Christianity and Islam are very homophobic ideologies 

could you give me an example of this spewing of hatred? 
 
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