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I was installing my sons car seat in my dads new truck, so I was at "his" house on the drive way. I had my dads keys in my pocket and I accidentally was holding down the panic button on house alarm on his set of keys. It set off the house alarm. I cleared the alarm as soon as I could. I go inside to cleanup and take shower, I change out of my work clothes and into my regular clothes. 30 mins had elapsed since I set off the alarm. I had a missed call from ADT while I was in the shower. But they have instructions to call 4 people before taking any further action.

Well as I'm leaving my dads house I walk out of the garage with my backpack (full of my work clothes I just changed out of) my phone in hand and some other things I can't recall.

Standing outside my house was a Police officer who was circling the property on foot trying to get a look inside. My house is gated so he couldn't access the front door.

Here I was with a bag full of who knows, covered In tattoos. Mind you I'm not team lightskin.

Before I said anything the cop just explained why he was dispatched, just asked for a form of I.d. And that was pretty much it. I knew the circumstance at hand, I didn't have to be aggressive with the cop to tell him to F' off or he doesn't need my identification. I just showed him what I needed and that was that. I understand the process of excersicing your rights and "you don't need to show I.d" I get that but this Situation could've been much different had I selected to go down that road.
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Serious question, why are some white people so scared? They act like a lot of bad things have happened to them and their "race" over the span of the last 400+ years
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Serious question, why are white people so scared?


It's not just white people.

 

In America, people of color have been vilified for generations.  It's sort of in our DNA.  

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you made a thread about jamar clark...? i haven't seen it on here if you did...?
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I read the thread title, looked who the OP was and was like nah no way this is dude telling a story about something that happened to him laugh.gif

 

:{ it could happen to anybody

 

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you made a thread about jamar clark...? i haven't seen it on here if you did...?

 

dude in minnesota? nah but i will tho :Nthat

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Nosy *** neighbors :{ 16 cops though? Wth? That's something you send a 2 man squad car to investigate. Not a full unit with ******* dogs and ****. Shook ones.

 

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^^In all seriousness,when does this ever happen to white people though? I don't think I've ever heard of an example

 

A white NTer literally posted his own story of this happening to him on the very same page :lol 

Granted, he was acting a lot more suspiciously than a locksmith opening a door :lol

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Serious question, why are some white people so scared? They act like a lot of bad things have happened to them and their "race" over the span of the last 400+ years

For every stride that "minorities" have gained in the western world, it meant that white people (primarily men) had to concede a privilege that was, up until that time, exclusive to them. I put minority in quotes because we now know that people of color vastly outnumber people or Caucasian descent, and they know it too. Soon, the United States will have more people of color than white folks - and that's why some of them are scared. They don't want to become the minority in this country because they know what comes with the territory.
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you made a thread about jamar clark...? i haven't seen it on here if you did...?

dude in minnesota? nah but i will tho nthat.gif

Please don't. Dude beat his girlfriend to the point that EMTs had to be called to the scene, and then tried to interfere with the EMTs as they attempted to treat his bloodied up girlfriend. I live in Minneapolis and I'm just mean.gif at some of my people here.

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I read the thread title, looked who the OP was and was like nah no way this is dude telling a story about something that happened to him laugh.gif

mean.gif  it could happen to anybody
I'm specifically talking about your thread title making it seem like it happened to you.

But if you want to ignore the rest of my post where I'm well aware it can happen to anybody I can see you're still on you're bull **** without missing a step.
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the thread title was the title of the article :rolleyes

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After reading this I'm gonna get a big *** portrait of myself and have it in view once you open the door for my next place so when the cops come if I have to break in to my own spot it'll be clear whose house it is.

That won't help none man...Dave schooled us 15 years ago...
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It feels like cops don't have to exercise any bit of common sense. As the lady was saying she has ID and a receipt from a locksmith, the cops, or ONE cop could have listened. Or deescalated the situation. Someone here mentioned that group think mentality. It seems like it happens in every regard. Two watch as one cop beats up another. God forbid you call out your partner in blue for doing something stupid or making matters worse. It feels like cops or those in authority have no consequences for their actions, like ever.
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Are we really that surprised?

 

NT >>>>> all US police

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I don't think ya'll understand that the neighbor called the cops because he saw a latino man (who turned out to be a locksmith) entering the house with two female associates.

Was it an overreaction to send that money officers? Maybe.

I definitely agree the officers could have handled it better when they realized there wasn't anything really wrong.
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she should thank the police for the wakeup call

 

thats a link to a separate article, not related to this story

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the thread title was the title of the article eyes.gif
Yeah, I know cuz you always title your thread titles after the titles of the articles you post.
post #46 of 57
Not gonna lie I thought this thread was about op, I was bout to be like this dudes lie has escalated to the point were he setting himself up with the police to cry racism.

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lie? that must be a typo for life

 

and "cry racism"?

 

is that what i do? 

 

or is that what she did?

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I was installing my sons car seat in my dads new truck, so I was at "his" house on the drive way. I had my dads keys in my pocket and I accidentally was holding down the panic button on house alarm on his set of keys. It set off the house alarm. I cleared the alarm as soon as I could. I go inside to cleanup and take shower, I change out of my work clothes and into my regular clothes. 30 mins had elapsed since I set off the alarm. I had a missed call from ADT while I was in the shower. But they have instructions to call 4 people before taking any further action.

Well as I'm leaving my dads house I walk out of the garage with my backpack (full of my work clothes I just changed out of) my phone in hand and some other things I can't recall.

Standing outside my house was a Police officer who was circling the property on foot trying to get a look inside. My house is gated so he couldn't access the front door.

Here I was with a bag full of who knows, covered In tattoos. Mind you I'm not team lightskin.

Before I said anything the cop just explained why he was dispatched, just asked for a form of I.d. And that was pretty much it. I knew the circumstance at hand, I didn't have to be aggressive with the cop to tell him to F' off or he doesn't need my identification. I just showed him what I needed and that was that. I understand the process of excersicing your rights and "you don't need to show I.d" I get that but this Situation could've been much different had I selected to go down that road.

This right here is the reason why I can't understand the mentality of some police officers. Every situation doesnt require you to be an Alpha, ready to take off somebody's head. Some situations just require a conversation to get resolved. The way they responded to the lady you would think the 911 caller said they were armed and dangerous mean.gif. Even with 19 officers present they still going way beyond.
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Serious question, why are some white people so scared? They act like a lot of bad things have happened to them and their "race" over the span of the last 400+ years

History has made us villans in this world. No matter how much we progress, they will always look at us in a negative light. They can shoot up 2 schools this week, but still cross the street if they see one of us.
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It feels like cops don't have to exercise any bit of common sense. As the lady was saying she has ID and a receipt from a locksmith, the cops, or ONE cop could have listened. Or deescalated the situation. Someone here mentioned that group think mentality. It seems like it happens in every regard. Two watch as one cop beats up another. God forbid you call out your partner in blue for doing something stupid or making matters worse. It feels like cops or those in authority have no consequences for their actions, like ever.

That is exactly what it is, common sense escapes them. I place these guys in two categories, either hot headed bullies who get off on the power trip of being an authority, or scared little boys hiding behind the badge quick on the draw because they can't do anything else.

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I don't think ya'll understand that the neighbor called the cops because he saw a latino man (who turned out to be a locksmith) entering the house with two female associates.

Was it an overreaction to send that money officers? Maybe.

I definitely agree the officers could have handled it better when they realized there wasn't anything really wrong.

The 911 callers play a key role in this also. Just like the people that called 911 on that guy in Walmart saying he was brandishing a gun and pointing it at children. That already had the responding officers on 100. I don't blame the neighbor for calling, but people need to observe and not be so quick to pick up a phone. Had he/she taken the time to really look at what was going on, I'm sure they could have discerned what was taking place. The locksmiths truck had to have been outside. I'm sure he had tools on him as well. At the very least the caller should have said I'm not 100% sure but it looks like "xyz". If they said that the dispatcher would have asked about their behavior to determine if they were a threat or not.

**** like this pisses me off because all it takes is one moron to make a call that can put your *** in a grave messing with these hot head cops.
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lie? that must be a typo for life

and "cry racism"?

is that what i do? 

or is that what she did?

Calm down, I was basically expecting another made up story from you. This one is real I think.

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The 911 callers play a key role in this also. Just like the people that called 911 on that guy in Walmart saying he was brandishing a gun and pointing it at children. That already had the responding officers on 100. I don't blame the neighbor for calling, but people need to observe and not be so quick to pick up a phone. Had he/she taken the time to really look at what was going on, I'm sure they could have discerned what was taking place. The locksmiths truck had to have been outside. I'm sure he had tools on him as well. At the very least the caller should have said I'm not 100% sure but it looks like "xyz". If they said that the dispatcher would have asked about their behavior to determine if they were a threat or not.

**** like this pisses me off because all it takes is one moron to make a call that can put your *** in a grave messing with these hot head cops.

Yeah, I feel ya. The caller did say the man had a "suitcase" with him, which was probably a toolbox.
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 The police recording you need to hear after a black woman 'broke into' her own home

Santa Monica resident Fay Wells recently wrote of how she no longer feels safe at home. Why? About 19 cops showed up at her door, some with guns drawn, after a neighbor thought she was breaking in. She's black and lives in a predominantly white complex.

Police Chief Jacqueline A. Seabrooks responded:

“As a Black woman born and raised in South-Central Los Angeles, I empathize with Ms. Fay Wells and how the experience made her feel. On the other hand, as an experienced law enforcement executive, I understand the Police Department’s response and the need for that response.”

The police department posted a 47-minute recording officers made at the scene, which is embedded below. Wells is clearly rattled and upset about having had officers approach her with guns and a police dog.

It’s a lot to go through, so we did it for you. Here are eight highlights:

Officers contend it’s better safe than sorry

It sounds as if the situation had just deescalated. Wells is clearly still shaken and upset by having been mistaken — at gunpoint — for a burglar in her own home. She said she had been locked out and hired a locksmith to let her in. A neighbor mistook her for a criminal.

 

At 55 seconds in, her emotion builds:

 

Wells: Why are two people pointing guns at me when I come out of my apartment? Two people pointed guns at me when I was walking out of my apartment. ... That is NOT OK. I didn’t do anything. It’s not cool to have two officers point guns at me. I feel completely disrespected.

 

They make their way back into the apartment. Her sense of personal violation is audible. She even asks whether the officers truly had the authority to enter and search her apartment though she didn’t give consent.

 

Wells (incredulous): What are you doing?

 

Male officer: What am I doing? We’re searching this side of your apartment.

 

Wells: What are you searching for?

 

Male officer: We got a call from your neighbor that someone broke into your apartment. So we’re searching for the person that broke in.

 

Wells: Right, because when I said that no one broke in and I had a locksmith that came by, it was completely like I had to be lying.
 

… but she doesn’t feel safe.

 

The officers seemed to be making a concerted effort to help her understand their frame of mind as they entered this unknown scene, with only the information provided by the neighbor who called to report a suspected burglary. At about 12:20 into the audiotape, a female officer tries to allay her anger with a perspective.

 

Female officer: … Just understand that you’re safe, no one’s harmed, and we’re just working on information we have at the time. In hindsight, a lot of what we do, it seems bizarre. They wouldn’t make television shows out of our job if it wasn’t. Right? But the end result is that you’re safe.

 

Wells: Honestly, do you think I feel safe right now?

 

“...if I was a white person”

 

Wells: I really do want to know if I was a white person, would there be 15 cops here.

 

Male officer: Yes.

 

A little later in the tape, he goes into more detail:

 

Male officer: If you’re asking me would these many cops be here if you were white, I can show you right now, yes....I’ve been doing this job for 28 years….Until we know everything is fine inside, we have to handle things a certain way. Understand? Here’s the main thing: No one’s gotten hurt, we haven’t torn up your house. Our main thing is making sure everyone in here is safe and that nobody is breaking into your home.

 

She meets the neighbor who called 911

 

It’s unclear in the audio exactly how their paths cross, but Wells had earlier asked officers to tell her which of her neighbors had called, so she could introduce herself. At 24:14 into the recording, she opens with “I’m Fay, by the way.”

 

Neighbor: Hi. I’ve never met you before. I’ve never seen you before. 

 

Wells: I’ve lived there six months. … You should probably recognize me. 

 

Here’s where it gets strange. If you listen to the 911 call, it sounds as if the neighbor did know Wells lived there, though he described her as possibly “Latino,” but thought she had broken into another resident’s home.

 

As Richard Winton wrote in an earlier story, the caller had told a 911 dispatcher, “the next-door neighbor just broke into an upstairs apartment with two other people with some sort of tools. … I don’t think this is some sort of crazy robbery, but I need some cops over here right now.”

 

At the scene, they moved on to why he called the police in the first place.

 

Neighbor: There was a guy with a suitcase.

 

Wells: It was the locksmith that I called.

 

Neighbor: There was a weird suitcase that he had, breaking into your apartment. 

 

Wells: Have you seen a locksmith’s thing before? They have a tool set. 

 

Neighbor: It was a suitcase. … Let me tell you something. I’ve never called 911 in my entire life. So I saw something that was happening, and I called 911 for the first time. And I’ve lived here for 12 years. And guess what — you’re safer for it.

 

Not drunk, just a lawyer

 

Wells assured her neighbor that the experience of having had a couple of guns pointed at her and 19 officers at her door did not, in fact, make her feel safer. At one point, she asks him a question that is unintelligible in the recording, but she later refers to asking whether he’d been drinking. His answer:

 

Neighbor: I’m a lawyer. Go “eff” yourself.

 

They continue. And in an unmistakable sorry-not sorry tone, he utters the closest he came to an apology during their exchange:

 

Neighbor: It’s better safe than sorry. … I know I haven’t met you, but I’m sorry, I thought somebody was breaking into your apartment.

 

What was going through her head

 

At 27:17 into the recording, Wells wants the officer to understand the gravity of this experience for her, a black woman well aware of how quickly the situation can turn deadly.

 

Male officer: I’m sorry you were upset, but … 

 

Wells: I had guns pulled on me, of course I’m upset. And honestly, you live in America, so you know what’s going on. So you know what I thought was going to happen, right? 

 

Male officer: Well, we thought you were a burglar and you were barricaded inside that apartment.

 

A challenge issued

 

Throughout the 40-plus-minute recording, Wells continued to question why the officers needed to approach with guns drawn and why they didn’t ask to see her ID.

 

In the end, a male commanding officer on scene issued a “challenge” to her.

 

Male officer: I’m gonna challenge you with something. And you can let me know on Tuesday if you want to do it or not. We have something which is called a “Citizens Academy.” I think it’s, like, 12 weeks. … For each one of those weeks, you come and you learn about the police department. The academy explains why we do things, why we do it. You don’t have to give me an answer now. … If you’re interested in it, I’m gonna sign you up for the next one.

 

Wells: Why would I be interested in that?

 

The police offer locksmith services

 

The capper? In the end, the officers told Wells how she could have saved herself $150 and the experience of being mistaken by a neighbor for a burglar at her own home:

 

Male officer:In the future, if something like this happens again, feel free, the police department can open the door for you, without a locksmith. … All you have to do is call 911.”

 

As it turns out, some of them are actually trained to pick locks. Good to know.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-audio-fay-wells-locked-out-while-black-20151119-htmlstory.html

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Kudos to the cops and the conversation after. The neighbor is a piece of ****.
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My problem is with black people that think because they have a degree, they are automatically exempt from discrimination that typical black people experience.

Dudes kill me with the imaginary honorary white card they think they get
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My brother and I got harassed by 3 cops for eating Jack in the Box on the side of the street in his truck.

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Man that neighbor is a racist POS
Cops were basically in a tough situation
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