I Don't Talk About Race With White People

OP just make yourself an official race thread

you might have better luck, for real because people see your 3 threads a day and don't care
 
I don't know the history of OP, but good article. Good read for those not in the know. For those in the know, it's more redundancy IMO. I feel as if we need white people to help bring down white supremacy ONLY if one feels that white people are indeed superior. If not, we can simply choose to abandon the system and all it's derivatives TOMORROW.



so basically, the path to "equality" is semi-mutual benificence?

only way white people will ever "bend" is if its in their own self interest to do so?

sounds great

but i think they like it the way it is now, prolly even prefer to go back a couple hundred years

if we left it up to them to decide

but thats a bigoted statement, because NOT ALL WHITE PEOPLE are like that

some/most would just go with the flow and if thats what happens it happens

Agree with this 200%. This is just the reality. When race is an issue to white folks, they're for the vast majority on the side of white supremacy. When race is a non-issue for white folks (which it's a non-issue to the overwhelming majority I assume through observed action and results) they're by default also siding with white supremacy......

Then you have the extremely rare exceptions to the rules in people like Tim Wise in which race is an issue and they MORE on the side of human/spiritual equality that's actually beneficial to melanated people particularly AFRICAN people.


White supremacy is not some abstract thing that you can just wish away and everything is fine

It is baked into our laws, our policies, hell America's culture.

You have to be able to say specifically how America will transition to a "post white supremacy" world and how it will operate.

Black people have been oppressed physically, then legally, now economically.

If black people can't spell out how this new America must will look, then the dominant society will, and just look at how they were able to transform laws and policies over history to find new ways to hurt the black community
:rolleyes

Once again, my point went right over your head because all you want to do is just picked out something to get outraged about.

When I in front a mouse and keyboard tomorrow I will spell out and expanded on that point and hope to what ever force controls the universe that something sinks into that hard head of yours.

It is baked into our laws, policies, and american culture.....yes. Legislation can NEVER work to eradicate racism in this country. It's an immeasurable, intangible happening. Believing so means that one has to believe that the hearts and minds of the people that create the law can be changed since the laws were created out of a position of ignorance as opposed to an extremely knowledgeable and deliberate one.....every law and policy that hurts African people is intended to be that way, and has been thought through vigorously. If a policy is passed that helps African people at first glance, trust that they're getting it in through the backdoor with no remorse. It's just the way of success for them hence white supremacy. Either that or we believe that these laws and policies exist in some type of vacuum. That they were racist in nature by some type of chance.
 
It just that people, even a lot of black members on NT, just don't want to talk about racism and white supremacy, WITH YOU.

People stick there head in the sand not because of they don't want to hear the message, it's because they can't stand the messenger

Just saying.
why are you in all his threads then?

anyways thats actually a really good read 
 
OP... Seriously... A word of advice...

You have to stop enlarging selected text in these articles. It's so damn annoying. Almost as bad as special snowflake NTers who have to center their posts or use a different font/color.

Just present the article and let it speak for it self.
 
 
I think it would be wise not to try and discuss race with American people in general expecting to get anything out of it value and logic wise
Where are you from, if you don't mind me asking? It seems that you have a lot of hatred for America, my friend.
 
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the highlighting is supposed to be a form of cliffnotes for those who will say they dont want to read the whole article
 
I'm going to take this thread as OP is just trying to tell us he's a great listener.
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So how would a white person go about excluding themselves from the white privileges they receive in order to be considered as not racist?
 
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I encourage speaking about race.

I'm not afraid to have the conversation with ignorant.

Doing battle with the ignorant only sharpens my skills.

When people say stuff like this all I really hear is I can't handle different opinions or I don't have the skills to present a solid argument and then refute their BS claims.

I think when people do this it creates a vicious cycle.

"I don't talk to white people about race because they don't understand..." well how are they going to understand your point of view if you're not willing to talk to them.

Rarely do people just accept your arguements just because...especially when your argument paints them in a negative light.

I'm not on board with this at all.
 
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 Grab a cup of cocoa, tuck yourself into your chair with a blanket, and get real comfortable famb

I'm about to let you in on something, you seem to be completely missing

It is not that dudes don't want to discuss white supremacy or racism on NT.

That's not the case, race and racism as always been a hot topic on NT. Even before you were around, even when you go ghost, and it will still be that way even after you're gone; those topics will be discussed. Trust me when I say this famb, I have posted in enough race thread to know

Matter of fact, there are even many non black members of NT that have spoken at length about these issues.

It just that people, even a lot of black members on NT, just don't want to talk about racism and white supremacy, WITH YOU.

People stick there head in the sand not because of they don't want to hear the message, it's because they can't stand the messenger

Just saying.
Why is that though?

Why is the messenger more important than the message?
 
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So how would a white person go about excluding themselves from the white privileges they receive in order to be considered as not racist?
According to Patrice O'Neal, that's all white folks do all day: try to prove they're not racist.
 
So how would a white person go about excluding themselves from the white privileges they receive in order to be considered as not racist?

You don't. People stay assuming I'm racist. Shaved head, beard and tattoos. I've had to check multiple people it's quite annoying. Meanwhile my daughter is half black. :lol: it goes both ways. Other white people coming up talking racist garbage or black people saying I'm racist. All you can do is laugh and tell people to get tf out your face.
 
According to Patrice O'Neal, that's all white folks do all day: try to prove they're not racist.

The author says white people are automatically racist because they don't exclude theirselves from a racist system. What I'm asking is how do they do that?

I agree with most of the article but I'm just curious as to how you can exclude yourself from the system like that
 
The only way is to move out of the United States. The government itself is the problem. It didn't just happen on accident.
 
The only way is to move out of the United States. The government itself is the problem. It didn't just happen on accident.

Everything I do is a step to buy land in a different country and not live in the USA anymore. But on the premise of racism, it's just as bad if not worse in some places I would like to go (i.e. Central or South America)
Is there anywhere that white people aren't considered racist then?
 
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The only way is to move out of the United States. The government itself is the problem. It didn't just happen on accident.
I think it can be fixed but moving out is easier. In my case I'm going to Guyana. Use my talents there. Fix the racial situation there (much easier task IMO).
 
 


Grab a cup of cocoa, tuck yourself into your chair with a blanket, and get real comfortable famb


I'm about to let you in on something, you seem to be completely missing


It is not that dudes don't want to discuss white supremacy or racism on NT.


That's not the case, race and racism as always been a hot topic on NT. Even before you were around, even when you go ghost, and it will still be that way even after you're gone; those topics will be discussed. Trust me when I say this famb, I have posted in enough race thread to know


Matter of fact, there are even many non black members of NT that have spoken at length about these issues.


It just that people, even a lot of black members on NT, just don't want to talk about racism and white supremacy, WITH YOU.


People stick there head in the sand not because of they don't want to hear the message, it's because they can't stand the messenger


Just saying.
Why is that though?
Why is the messenger more important than the message?

Where did I say the messenger is more important than the message famb?

I'm saying that message will be received regardless. We will still have debates about racism and race on NT if dude wasn't around.

So his argument that the reason folk don't like him because he post about white supremacy and racism is patently false.
 
The only way is to move out of the United States. The government itself is the problem. It didn't just happen on accident.

Everything I do is a step to buy land in a different country and not live in the USA anymore. But on the premise of racism, it's just as bad if not worse in some places I would like to go (i.e. Central or South America)
Oh yeah. They're just out there with it too. Still love a foul mouthed Ecuadorean girl. Just got to let them know that doesn't fly here.
 
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The only way is to move out of the United States. The government itself is the problem. It didn't just happen on accident.
I think it can be fixed but moving out is easier. In my case I'm going to Guyana. Use my talents there. Fix the racial situation there (much easier task IMO).
Yeah? That sounds :pimp: Guyana seems like a cool place. Lot of cultures coming together there.
 
Yeah? That sounds :pimp: Guyana seems like a cool place. Lot of cultures coming together there.

I'm from Guyana and I just came back from there. It's so funny they think that their social issues like racism are so crazy serious but honestly it's laughable compared to here. On the street everybody seems to get just along fine. If the archaic political parties didn't continue to preach that ole racism for votes and weren't so damn crooked the country would be nice.
 
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